Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to Neesy what h's saying isn't that daft like, Barton is settled and probably our key player at the minute, where as Ben Arfa is still unproven in this league, and COULD very well still flop/never fully recover. I think it's pretty clear like of the limited time we did see him that he will not flop, and is by some distance the most talented player we've had in years at the club, but still, the risks are still there. who sees it as a choice between the two ? Really hope we keep him but what if selling Barton was the only way to afford to keep Ben Arfa. What would you rather? Barton. Ben Arfa has done hardly nothing apart from that everton match & we don't know the impact of the injury will be on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to Neesy what h's saying isn't that daft like, Barton is settled and probably our key player at the minute, where as Ben Arfa is still unproven in this league, and COULD very well still flop/never fully recover. I think it's pretty clear like of the limited time we did see him that he will not flop, and is by some distance the most talented player we've had in years at the club, but still, the risks are still there. who sees it as a choice between the two ? Really hope we keep him but what if selling Barton was the only way to afford to keep Ben Arfa. What would you rather? Barton. Ben Arfa has done hardly nothing apart from that everton match & we don't know the impact of the injury will be on him. one person then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to Neesy what h's saying isn't that daft like, Barton is settled and probably our key player at the minute, where as Ben Arfa is still unproven in this league, and COULD very well still flop/never fully recover. I think it's pretty clear like of the limited time we did see him that he will not flop, and is by some distance the most talented player we've had in years at the club, but still, the risks are still there. who sees it as a choice between the two ? Really hope we keep him but what if selling Barton was the only way to afford to keep Ben Arfa. What would you rather? Barton. Ben Arfa has done hardly nothing apart from that everton match & we don't know the impact of the injury will be on him. one person then. Yeah, hence why I said in the post you quoted "tbf to Neesy". This is hardly rocket science, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to Neesy what h's saying isn't that daft like, Barton is settled and probably our key player at the minute, where as Ben Arfa is still unproven in this league, and COULD very well still flop/never fully recover. I think it's pretty clear like of the limited time we did see him that he will not flop, and is by some distance the most talented player we've had in years at the club, but still, the risks are still there. who sees it as a choice between the two ? Really hope we keep him but what if selling Barton was the only way to afford to keep Ben Arfa. What would you rather? Barton. Ben Arfa has done hardly nothing apart from that everton match & we don't know the impact of the injury will be on him. one person then. Yeah, hence why I said in the post you quoted "tbf to Neesy". This is hardly rocket science, man. i was just totally thrown with the "tbf to neesy" comment as it is such a rarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Zaki would be a good example for Neesy to use here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to Neesy what h's saying isn't that daft like, Barton is settled and probably our key player at the minute, where as Ben Arfa is still unproven in this league, and COULD very well still flop/never fully recover. I think it's pretty clear like of the limited time we did see him that he will not flop, and is by some distance the most talented player we've had in years at the club, but still, the risks are still there. who sees it as a choice between the two ? Really hope we keep him but what if selling Barton was the only way to afford to keep Ben Arfa. What would you rather? Barton. Ben Arfa has done hardly nothing apart from that everton match & we don't know the impact of the injury will be on him. one person then. Yeah, hence why I said in the post you quoted "tbf to Neesy". This is hardly rocket science, man. i was just totally thrown with the "tbf to neesy" comment as it is such a rarity. fair enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think I got confused during multiple posts as I usually do on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to neesy he's talking absolute bollocks. Barton has made a difference this year, but players like him in the Premiership are easily found, I wouldn't want to sell him obviously, not this season anyway. If we sold him January AND replaced him I wouldn't be too upset. Secondly, the argument that players who suffer serious injuries never come back the same is a flawed one. Broken bones normally heal quite well and in many cases come back stronger. A serious injury is a test of a player's mental strength, we saw Shearer suffer an injury that has ended careers and he adapted his game to stay at the top. Just because Eduardo is s*** now doesn't mean Ben Arfa will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to neesy he's talking absolute bollocks. Barton has made a difference this year, but players like him in the Premiership are easily found, I wouldn't want to sell him obviously, not this season anyway. If we sold him January AND replaced him I wouldn't be too upset. Secondly, the argument that players who suffer serious injuries is a flawed one. Broken bones normally heal quite well and in many cases come back stronger. A serious injury is a test of a player's mental strength, we saw Shearer suffer an injury that has ended careers and he adapted his game to stay at the top. Just because Eduardo is shit now doesn't mean Ben Arfa will be. And just because shearer did it, doesn't mean Ben Arfa will. Players like him are easily found in the premiership? At 1.5M i don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Give up Neesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to neesy he's talking absolute bollocks. Barton has made a difference this year, but players like him in the Premiership are easily found, I wouldn't want to sell him obviously, not this season anyway. If we sold him January AND replaced him I wouldn't be too upset. Secondly, the argument that players who suffer serious injuries is a flawed one. Broken bones normally heal quite well and in many cases come back stronger. A serious injury is a test of a player's mental strength, we saw Shearer suffer an injury that has ended careers and he adapted his game to stay at the top. Just because Eduardo is s*** now doesn't mean Ben Arfa will be. And just because shearer did it, doesn't mean Ben Arfa will. Players like him are easily found in the premiership? At 1.5M i don't think so. Cahill, Duff, Parker, Nolan, N'zogbia there are loads of them, average players that have a little bit of extra quality that help mid-table or strugglins sides. £1.5m would only be just under valuation imo given Barton's reputation and past problems. If it wasn't for his reputation he'd command £4-5m. The injury argument works both ways but you failed to acknowledge that, your being overdramatic and and reading too much into a story that is probably bollocks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Tbf to Neesy what h's saying isn't that daft like, Barton is settled and probably our key player at the minute, where as Ben Arfa is still unproven in this league, and COULD very well still flop/never fully recover. I think it's pretty clear like of the limited time we did see him that he will not flop, and is by some distance the most talented player we've had in years at the club, but still, the risks are still there. Who says we will even sign him in the summer. People getting way ahead of themselves re: HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 don't people just love transfer windows eh, i'll treat it as a load of shite until proven otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I dont know where SkySports got that info from, but usually they are reliable. But there have been times when they are wrong, and I hope this is one of them. I dont see any reason why we would want to sell Barton, who is arguably one of our best players this season. Maybe Pardew want to keep, but Ashley is asking him to let him go. That would be interesting. But if we do lose Barton in January, that would be a big blow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugatu Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Neesy has a a fair point I reckon. We really need to see how Ben Arfa is after this injury before committing to signing him and labelling him as the best thing ever. There's a chance the injury might have affected him mentally. Prior to his injury there's no doubt that on top form Ben Arfa's the better player (on paper) but we don't even know how he'll adapt to the English game yet, I don't think you can tell after 3 just appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I dont know where SkySports got that info from, but usually they are reliable. But there have been times when they are wrong, and I hope this is one of them. I dont see any reason why we would want to sell Barton, who is arguably one of our best players this season. Maybe Pardew want to keep, but Ashley is asking him to let him go. That would be interesting. But if we do lose Barton in January, that would be a big blow. Sky Sports News haven't reported it, didn't the Sky Sports news website just take over some other transfer rumour website for their 'transfer centre' thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What does the story even say? Someone post it ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It hasn't got a single quote in it anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I would say tha Skysports put out so much shit that the last thing I'd say about them is that they were reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What does the story even say? Someone post it ffs. Sky Sports.com understands that Newcastle are willing to listen to offers of £1.5m for Joey Barton. That's the jist of it. It's bollocks basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Cheers. I can believe it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Danny Simpson @dannysimpson12 Danny Simpson Don't believe everything u read in the papers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 George Caulkin Apparently the report that Barton is available for 1.5m at #nufc is absolute rubbish. No truth at all according to sources at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 So he'll be off for £2million then. It would be madness to sell him after at long last he's actually showing some very good form. He's been a key player for us this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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