AlanSkÃrare Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 He's spot on with regards to Barry. The "hare and tortoise" comparison is hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 There isn't really a place for him in the England team if we go for this 4-3-3 though is there? We've been spending all season saying that he's not a central midfielder, and he's certainly not a flying winger. Hargreaves* Barton Wilshere Young Carroll Rooney * Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Parker not Hargreaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 And Adam Johnson instead of Young. Barton and Wilshere both given freedom to stay central or go wide when in possession to supply crosses for Rooney and Carroll in particular, with both Rooney and Johnson cutting inside. Neither Rooney or Johnson shy away from their defensive duties when the opposition's got the ball, allowing Barton and Wilshere to drift inside a bit more with Rooney and Johnson covering the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Young's quite important to that system though, isn't he? And he really needs to play on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 There isn't really a place for him in the England team if we go for this 4-3-3 though is there? We've been spending all season saying that he's not a central midfielder, and he's certainly not a flying winger. It's a big if at the minute though. We have only played it against Wales and Ghana, as soon as a half decent team batters us again, it will no doubt be back to 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Young's quite important to that system though, isn't he? And he really needs to play on the left. See my post above, forgot about Johnson who is a much better player than Young, and more suited to the position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Are these comments being overlooked? "We had a good player, Carroll, and we sold him. I told the management that I was worried, that I was scared this might happen every year. But they assured me they don't want to go down that road." Barton, however, was not entirely convinced by the talks and is urging Newcastle to act by tying their leading players to new deals. "I don't know if I believe them," he said. "I told them I might stay this summer because we have some good players and money to spend. But I'm going to wait and see if players like Kevin Nolan, Cheick Tioté and Jose Enrique stay. "If Nolan signs a new deal, I will as well. But I hope the club step things up. I want to be ambitious and I think the club share that desire." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Are these comments being overlooked? "We had a good player, Carroll, and we sold him. I told the management that I was worried, that I was scared this might happen every year. But they assured me they don't want to go down that road." Barton, however, was not entirely convinced by the talks and is urging Newcastle to act by tying their leading players to new deals. "I don't know if I believe them," he said. "I told them I might stay this summer because we have some good players and money to spend. But I'm going to wait and see if players like Kevin Nolan, Cheick Tioté and Jose Enrique stay. "If Nolan signs a new deal, I will as well. But I hope the club step things up. I want to be ambitious and I think the club share that desire." Like an assurance from Ronald McDonald on leaving him to look after your pet cow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 It's all complete crap. He doesn't want to play for England and is making sure that he doesn't get picked for any future squads. He'd much rather be a big fish in a small pool and I don't think he'd find it easy to fit into an England squad and handle those relationships. As for the club, he'd rather see out his contract on his current huge wage and then see what his options are. As with Owen in the last year of his contract, he sees no advantage in signing up now to a lower contract. He has every right to make that stand but why the accompanying BS. The problem seems to be changing all the time - now he's not going to sign unless his mate Kevin gets a new contract as well. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 It's all complete crap. He doesn't want to play for England and is making sure that he doesn't get picked for any future squads. He'd much rather be a big fish in a small pool and I don't think he'd find it easy to fit into an England squad and handle those relationships. As for the club, he'd rather see out his contract on his current huge wage and then see what his options are. As with Owen in the last year of his contract, he sees no advantage in signing up now to a lower contract. He has every right to make that stand but why the accompanying BS. The problem seems to be changing all the time - now he's not going to sign unless his mate Kevin gets a new contract as well. Ridiculous. Where's that come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Fucking love his honesty like. Will doubtless be ammunition for the media but a cracking and amusing read for the real football fan because it's pretty much all true. Well done Joey lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Cronky is a bit cranky today like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 It's all complete crap. He doesn't want to play for England and is making sure that he doesn't get picked for any future squads. He'd much rather be a big fish in a small pool and I don't think he'd find it easy to fit into an England squad and handle those relationships. As for the club, he'd rather see out his contract on his current huge wage and then see what his options are. As with Owen in the last year of his contract, he sees no advantage in signing up now to a lower contract. He has every right to make that stand but why the accompanying BS. The problem seems to be changing all the time - now he's not going to sign unless his mate Kevin gets a new contract as well. Ridiculous. Where's that come from? Maybe there's no hidden masterplan in Joey's mind, and I'm doing him an injustice on that point. But I do think he finds decisions difficult, and all this public parading of his dilemma is part of it. When it came to leaving Man City, there were all kinds of histrionics before it all went through. A lot of his statements - and I'm talking about what he was quoted as saying in his talk in as well - are lacking in any consistency or coherence. He's presenting as confident and in control over his own destiny, and then he's saying things that completely run against that. (eg saying you want to play for England and then saying things that will ensure that that doesn't happen) 'I'll sign if Kevin signs' - a complete relinquishing of responsibility for the decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Are these comments being overlooked? "We had a good player, Carroll, and we sold him. I told the management that I was worried, that I was scared this might happen every year. But they assured me they don't want to go down that road." Barton, however, was not entirely convinced by the talks and is urging Newcastle to act by tying their leading players to new deals. "I don't know if I believe them," he said. "I told them I might stay this summer because we have some good players and money to spend. But I'm going to wait and see if players like Kevin Nolan, Cheick Tioté and Jose Enrique stay. "If Nolan signs a new deal, I will as well. But I hope the club step things up. I want to be ambitious and I think the club share that desire." Like an assurance from Ronald McDonald on leaving him to look after your pet cow. Clowns aren't farmers sure, but I don't know what you're getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Nice interview, but he's on a different world if he seriously thinks he's the best English midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 It's all complete crap. He doesn't want to play for England and is making sure that he doesn't get picked for any future squads. He'd much rather be a big fish in a small pool and I don't think he'd find it easy to fit into an England squad and handle those relationships. As for the club, he'd rather see out his contract on his current huge wage and then see what his options are. As with Owen in the last year of his contract, he sees no advantage in signing up now to a lower contract. He has every right to make that stand but why the accompanying BS. The problem seems to be changing all the time - now he's not going to sign unless his mate Kevin gets a new contract as well. Ridiculous. Where's that come from? Maybe there's no hidden masterplan in Joey's mind, and I'm doing him an injustice on that point. But I do think he finds decisions difficult, and all this public parading of his dilemma is part of it. When it came to leaving Man City, there were all kinds of histrionics before it all went through. A lot of his statements - and I'm talking about what he was quoted as saying in his talk in as well - are lacking in any consistency or coherence. He's presenting as confident and in control over his own destiny, and then he's saying things that completely run against that. (eg saying you want to play for England and then saying things that will ensure that that doesn't happen) 'I'll sign if Kevin signs' - a complete relinquishing of responsibility for the decision. I can see where you're coming from, mate. But, I think you're looking into things a bit too much. Bear in mind, as well, that these latest comments were made up to a couple of months ago now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I just love Joey! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Joey Barton trending on twitter. You can guess what the majority of gasbags are saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Been about 5 hours now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Barton's right in that there aren't many English midfielders with real creative ability, a lot of them are just runners who score goals. Technique wise Barton is streets ahead of the majority in this country. He's an idiot though, because if there was a chance of him getting called up he's booted it into touch with his slagging of current England stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Optajoe has said that those wearing the number 7 shirt have provided the most assists in the Premier League this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 From OptaJoe too: Head to Head G Barry v J Barton Mins 2361-2248, Goals 2-4, Shots 13-51, Assists 2-7, Chances Created open play 18-25, Pass% 85%-74%, Tackles 78%-81% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 From OptaJoe too: Head to Head G Barry v J Barton Mins 2361-2248, Goals 2-4, Shots 13-51, Assists 2-7, Chances Created open play 18-25, Pass% 85%-74%, Tackles 78%-81% When you think Barry is playing in a much better team with lots of stars... he is s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 You don't need to think about any particular circumstances. He is just quite simply shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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