SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 can´t wait to hear how Pardew will try to explain and clean this mess up? He will come out and say he was beginnig to be a disruptive influence, but we will replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Haing read the various posts over the last 24 hours or so I'm absolutely astounded that anyone can think that the club have done the right thing in all of this, regardless of your view of Barton's role in all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 How on earth can you believe Ashley has any decent PR or press relations going on? Everyone hates him FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 can´t wait to hear how Pardew will try to explain and clean this mess up? He will come out and say he was beginnig to be a disruptive influence, but we will replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Haing read the various posts over the last 24 hours or so I'm absolutely astounded that anyone can think that the club have done the right thing in all of this, regardless of your view of Barton's role in all of this. It depends on how successful you think other options would have been I suppose. Say that they had fined Joey a couple of weeks' wages and told him to stop abusing them on Twitter, would that have worked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Haing read the various posts over the last 24 hours or so I'm absolutely astounded that anyone can think that the club have done the right thing in all of this, regardless of your view of Barton's role in all of this. putting an end to it is the only right thing they have done, how they have done it and the timing of it has all been probably wrong but at the end of the day he was becomming a rotten apple that could only end up spreading a negative influence rather than rallying the troops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 There was talk on here yesterday about the Rooney/Ferguson thing and how he fought to keep Rooney. Ferguson is infamous for getting rid of players who wrong the club in some way. Big players, too. Beckham, Yorke, Stam etc. Even Schmeichel at one point. He'd have sold Barton years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 can´t wait to hear how Pardew will try to explain and clean this mess up? He will come out and say he was beginnig to be a disruptive influence, but we will replace him. He could probably get away with something like "the club have decided that they can't have a player publically causing disruption and have taken the decision they thought was right, but I'm sorry that there's no way back for Joey". Not saying it's true, but if I was doing his PR that's the line I would give him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 There was talk on here yesterday about the Rooney/Ferguson and how he fought to keep Rooney. Ferguson is infamous for getting rid of players who wrong the club in some way. Big players, too. Beckham, Yorke, Stam etc. Even Schmeichel at one point. He'd have sold Barton years ago. Yes, sold him, not let one of his best players go for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Mike and Derek could kidnap Alan Shearer and Robert Lee, roll them up in a carpet and throw them off a bridge live on NUFCTV and some people would decide that it must have been justified, they were loose cannons and disruptive influences and they were shit anyway. It's like being in North Korea, anyone who is punished must have been a subversive traitor who hates the club and wants to destroy it from within. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Mike and Derek could kidnap Alan Shearer and Robert Lee, roll them up in a carpet and throw them off a bridge live on NUFCTV and some people would decide that it must have been justified, they were loose cannons and disruptive influences and they were shit anyway. It's like being in North Korea, anyone who is punished must have been a subversive traitor who hates the club and wants to destroy it from within. Come on man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Mike and Derek could kidnap Alan Shearer and Robert Lee, roll them up in a carpet and throw them off a bridge live on NUFCTV and some people would decide that it must have been justified, they were loose cannons and disruptive influences and they were shit anyway. This made me laugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cr4igora Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Most clubs don't have a loose cannon like Joey Barton in their team, surrounded in controversy all-year-round. We're not most clubs, the whole club is surrounded by controversy, not just Barton but carry on living in lala land. La la land? I agree the whole club is surrounded in controversy, which is why we don't need Barton doing what he's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 There was talk on here yesterday about the Rooney/Ferguson and how he fought to keep Rooney. Ferguson is infamous for getting rid of players who wrong the club in some way. Big players, too. Beckham, Yorke, Stam etc. Even Schmeichel at one point. He'd have sold Barton years ago. Yes, sold him, not let one of his best players go for free. and replaced him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I might be even more damaging to let him train with them TBH. I don't know either way, but it's certainly possible. I am not convinced the squad will be bothered, maybe really they are breathing a sigh of relief, if he really that popular with the others? What are the basis for these posts, other than pure hope that we are not dealing with this situation in an awful manner? The basis for mine is that he's quite an unstable and outspoken character, who is now unhappy at the club. Therefore he might well unsettle our players more by training with them than by being made to train alone. If I was R Kelly and could turn back the hands of time, I would just fine Joey and try to move on, but that's not the situation. What suggests he's unhappy at the club though? Some tweets alluding to the idea that its not being run well? Supposed stories of frustration at the way we were playing while we lost to leeds? Compare that to any viewable interaction with the other players & what hes said about staying here. Its not in his benefit anyway to be a negative influence even if he moves on for his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 David fucking Craig. Giving us the most pointless update ever. Would never get tired of kicking him in the face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 There was talk on here yesterday about the Rooney/Ferguson and how he fought to keep Rooney. Ferguson is infamous for getting rid of players who wrong the club in some way. Big players, too. Beckham, Yorke, Stam etc. Even Schmeichel at one point. He'd have sold Barton years ago. Yes, sold him, not let one of his best players go for free. And got about £6. Ferguson would do what was best for the club and that would be getting rid of Barton, for free if he had to. He fought to keep Rooney because he's one of the only players who he knows he can't replace for a number of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cr4igora Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 People need to find ways to justify the idea that Bartons turned into an animal again, so that they can delude themselves about our club actually being run really well as it'll make them feel a bit better. He spoke out on twitter, following Enrique? Forget Enrique, Bartons going to ruin morale !! He was supposedly annoyed during a match we poor in v Leeds? There are definately no alternative responses if true, other than making him train alone. Pardew could not talk to him about it, he could not be fined, the situation could not be calmed in anyway using communication. No, we need punishment & to expand the situation further. People who don't agree with what Barton has done are NOT CLAIMING THE CLUB IS BEING RUN WELL FFS!! That's nonsense. I don't like who runs our club, I don't like the LARGE majority of the decisions that have been made and I hate the lies we are fed. In this instance however, I believe we have done the right thing. It's just a shame we won't get a fee for him, when he leaves. So the large amount of shock due to how this has been handled, doesnt suggest to you that there was any other way to deal with this situation? You think this decision is the least likely to affect club morale (given the current viewable reaction of the players) & the one most likely to bring us success to Newcastle United? Really ? If Barton genuinely gave a s*** about the club and the morale of the team, he'd pipe the f*** down. He's out there to boost his own ego and he doesn't have the intelligence to realise what consequences will occur from his actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 can´t wait to hear how Pardew will try to explain and clean this mess up? Pardew will say what he is told to and when to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 It's a s*** decision. The situation wouldn't come up in most other clubs. You can thank Ashley & co for that. Most clubs don't have a loose cannon like Joey Barton in their team, surrounded in controversy all-year-round. Most clubs don't have 4 others openly backing up the so called loose cannon and years of evidence of a club run by idiots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 And got about £6. Ferguson would do what was best for the club and that would be getting rid of Barton, for free if he had to. He fought to keep Rooney because he's one of the only players who he knows he can't replace for a number of reasons. Ferguson wouldnt have allowed an outspoken lad like Barton onto a public forum like twitter in the first place, because hes not an idiot. He would more likely have stopped the root of any potential issues & kept a solid player. Hes a good manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I might be even more damaging to let him train with them TBH. I don't know either way, but it's certainly possible. I am not convinced the squad will be bothered, maybe really they are breathing a sigh of relief, if he really that popular with the others? What are the basis for these posts, other than pure hope that we are not dealing with this situation in an awful manner? The basis for mine is that he's quite an unstable and outspoken character, who is now unhappy at the club. Therefore he might well unsettle our players more by training with them than by being made to train alone. If I was R Kelly and could turn back the hands of time, I would just fine Joey and try to move on, but that's not the situation. What suggests he's unhappy at the club though? Some tweets alluding to the idea that its not being run well? Supposed stories of frustration at the way we were playing while we lost to leeds? Compare that to any viewable interaction with the other players & what hes said about staying here. Its not in his benefit anyway to be a negative influence even if he moves on for his career. Well if he's not unhappy he's certainly doing a good impression of it. If I thought he would think logically like you and not cause any problems because it wouldn't be in his interests the I'd agree with you, but if that was the case he wouldn't have done the tweeting in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 How on earth can you believe Ashley has any decent PR or press relations going on? Everyone hates him FFS. not everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I guess what Fergie would or would not have done does not really matter.. whats done here is done, joey has made his bed, my concern is not so much losing Joey but being another squad member down. If he cared he would not still be tweeting, maybe he should be trying to put things right, is he doing that? no he is not and in my opinion that is because he has got exactly what he wanted. To let him anywhere near the squad now would be utterly pointless, he is bound to try and cause as much unrest as he can,. I am more interested is backing the players we have thats all that matters now. What benefit has to had to any of the players keeping quiet about how bad things have been since Ashley took over ? There comes a point when people think they have to do something to force some sort of change. Not just for the good of themselves but also for the good of the team. What good has came from it ? Will Ashley now sell up? will fans booing Ashley (again) and singing for Barton have a positive effect on the squad? He changed nothing apart from his personal circumstances, he told fans nothing they don't already know. I am not saying the club have mad the right decision, I do not support Ashley in any way but I DO support NUFC and the players that will be here this season, as it stands now Joey Barton will not be one of those players.. thats all that matters to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 There was talk on here yesterday about the Rooney/Ferguson and how he fought to keep Rooney. Ferguson is infamous for getting rid of players who wrong the club in some way. Big players, too. Beckham, Yorke, Stam etc. Even Schmeichel at one point. He'd have sold Barton years ago. Yes, sold him, not let one of his best players go for free. And got about £6. Ferguson would do what was best for the club and that would be getting rid of Barton, for free if he had to. He fought to keep Rooney because he's one of the only players who he knows he can't replace for a number of reasons. Barton is a player we can't replace for a number of reasons, one being that the transfer window shuts in about a week and another being that there's no obvious replacement available who's in the bargain bin because they've got leprosy, they suffer from a rare medical condition where their feet have been replaced with hands, they're eleven years old, or they've fallen out with their club because of what they've said on twitter and are being allowed to leave on a free. Wait, there is one player like that, in exactly the situation we'd normally be rubbing our hands about, unfortunately it's Barton himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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