Dinho lad Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 My mother reckons an arsenal player spat at barton when he was on the deck. Haven't had a chance to see it again. Don't think it happened, otherwise I'm sure Barton would have played the victim card again. (Which he would have been.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @ @piersmorgan I train all summer to have him cheat us out of hard earned point. Its not on. Diving should be 3 game ban. Respect the game Nice one Joey. If only you didn't dive to the floor in the most pathetic manner possible when Gervinho slapped you. What did you want him to do? Not do exactly what he's criticising other players for doing. Gervinho committed a red card offence - if Joey makes the referee aware of that by going down I have no problem with that! Makes the referee aware of it. He acted pathetically in the whole situation. Gervinho and Barton were both embarrassing and they both deserved to see red. I'm taking issue with Barton's clear hypocrisy here. He bangs on with his holier-than-thou mentality and he goes and does that. Feel free to gobble up this "look at me being so against cheating" rubbish when he dived to ensure Gervinho saw red. I agree with you on Barton's hypocrisy, but I'd of given them both yellows until Gervinho threw the slap. Handbags for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Barton was very lucky not to go off. Complete loss of self control for a player who through his own faults already has a target painted on his back as far as officials go, not a great combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm pretty sure if an Arsenal player had grabbed Barton from the floor and manhandled him everyone here would have been screaming for a red. I don't see how you can lay your hands on an opposition player in an aggressive manner and not risk being sent off. Agreed. He also dived after admonishing Gervinho for diving; the fact that he can't see the absurdity in that shows he's not half as clever as he thinks he is. He didn't dive. He feigned injury. Diving would suggest no contact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm pretty sure if an Arsenal player had grabbed Barton from the floor and manhandled him everyone here would have been screaming for a red. I don't see how you can lay your hands on an opposition player in an aggressive manner and not risk being sent off. Agreed. He also dived after admonishing Gervinho for diving; the fact that he can't see the absurdity in that shows he's not half as clever as he thinks he is. He didn't dive. He feigned injury. Diving would suggest no contact. Yeah he fucking did, lightly touching someones face does not cause them to hit the deck the way he did. If it was someone doing that to one of our place this place would implode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 The only wrong that Barton did (in terms of the game rules) was when he grabbed Gervinho by the shirt. (Yellow was the correct decision, imo.) I can understand his frustration at Gervinho for attempting to con the referee, but he should have demonstrated his anger to Gervinho verbally and not physical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm pretty sure if an Arsenal player had grabbed Barton from the floor and manhandled him everyone here would have been screaming for a red. I don't see how you can lay your hands on an opposition player in an aggressive manner and not risk being sent off. Agreed. He also dived after admonishing Gervinho for diving; the fact that he can't see the absurdity in that shows he's not half as clever as he thinks he is. He didn't dive. He feigned injury. Diving would suggest no contact. Yeah he fucking did, lightly touching someones face does not cause them to hit the deck the way he did. If it was someone doing that to one of our place this place would implode. Quick question, where you desperate to see Barton sent off, seeing as you've wanted him out the club for months now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't see how people can attempt to differentiate between Gervinho and Barton's actions. They both hit the deck after slight contact to gain an advantage of some kind. They were both scummy fuckers in that respect. Unfortunately, despite the 'campaigns' to cut it out, it appears to be getting worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't see how people can attempt to differentiate between Gervinho and Barton's actions. They both hit the deck after slight contact to gain an advantage of some kind. They were both scummy fuckers in that respect. Unfortunately, despite the 'campaigns' to cut it out, it appears to be getting worse. Because Gervinho threw himself on the deck after no contact and Barton threw himself on the deck to make the most out of what was already a red card offense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't see how people can attempt to differentiate between Gervinho and Barton's actions. They both hit the deck after slight contact to gain an advantage of some kind. They were both scummy fuckers in that respect. Unfortunately, despite the 'campaigns' to cut it out, it appears to be getting worse. Because Gervinho threw himself on the deck after no contact and Barton threw himself on the deck to make the most out of what was already a red card offense? A distinction without a difference, both play acted in a pathetic attempt to gain an advantage for their side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't see how people can attempt to differentiate between Gervinho and Barton's actions. They both hit the deck after slight contact to gain an advantage of some kind. They were both scummy fuckers in that respect. Unfortunately, despite the 'campaigns' to cut it out, it appears to be getting worse. Because Gervinho threw himself on the deck after no contact and Barton threw himself on the deck to make the most out of what was already a red card offense? A distinction without a difference, both play acted in a pathetic attempt to gain an advantage for their side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't see how people can attempt to differentiate between Gervinho and Barton's actions. They both hit the deck after slight contact to gain an advantage of some kind. They were both scummy fuckers in that respect. Unfortunately, despite the 'campaigns' to cut it out, it appears to be getting worse. Because Gervinho threw himself on the deck after no contact and Barton threw himself on the deck to make the most out of what was already a red card offense? A distinction without a difference, both play acted in a pathetic attempt to gain an advantage for their side. It wasn't a particularly nice thing to do by either, but I don't see how anyone can claim that there's no difference between to do. I'll be honest here, fuck morals, if one of our players got struck during a match and the perpetrator didn't get sent off because our player just stood their like nothing happened, I'd be disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Anyone seen that "Joey Barton is to join Robbie Savage on Radio 5 live 606 show from 1800 BST (UK users)" , more tasty sound-bites guaranteed. He's a bit of a knob sure, but its thoroughly entertaining , he does defend himself and he didn't do what 'the old joey' would have done yesterday. Overall the question for me is whether with the whole package that he is, does he positively contribute to the team, or not. And i think at this stage he does, his footballing ability adds enough to the team to cope with the antics, but if he got offside with a key player in the team, not just the management, then that might change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 yep Barton went to assist Gervinho to get off the ground, but!! Gervinho then turned on Barton as Barton helped him get up! which caused the fracas, watch iplayer and you can clearly see the offence happening, funny how the stamping has drifted into the background and all the emphisis is on Barton starting the bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 yep Barton went to assist Gervinho to get off the ground, but!! Gervinho then turned on Barton as Barton helped him get up! which caused the fracas, watch iplayer and you can clearly see the offence happening, funny how the stamping has drifted into the background and all the emphisis is on Barton starting the bother. Assist him to get off the ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Seriously though, this is part of the reason why shit like this carries on in the game. People will scream blue murder if something is done by a player from another team but will try and justify it if it's done by one of their own as it's 'part of the game'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 yep Barton went to assist Gervinho to get off the ground, but!! Gervinho then turned on Barton as Barton helped him get up! which caused the fracas, watch iplayer and you can clearly see the offence happening, funny how the stamping has drifted into the background and all the emphisis is on Barton starting the bother. That's what disappoints me the most, as I said yesterday all the attention is on joey, yet of the three players invol ed in unsavoury activiy yesterday, he was the one least in the wrong. A player who intentionally and cowardly stamped on another achielles, something that could easy have result in a seasn or career ending injury and a person who tried to cheat and raised his hands to the face of another player are forgotten about because joey grab the said cheater's shirt too vigorously and made the most of of slap. Sad that some of the most vocal profess to support this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 yep Barton went to assist Gervinho to get off the ground, but!! Gervinho then turned on Barton as Barton helped him get up! which caused the fracas, watch iplayer and you can clearly see the offence happening, funny how the stamping has drifted into the background and all the emphisis is on Barton starting the bother. That's what disappoints me the most, as I said yesterday all the attention is on joey, yet of the three players invol ed in unsavoury activiy yesterday, he was the one least in the wrong. A player who intentionally and cowardly stamped on another achielles, something that could easy have result in a seasn or career ending injury and a person who tried to cheat and raised his hands to the face of another player are forgotten about because joey grab the said cheater's shirt too vigorously and made the most of of slap. Sad that some of the most vocal profess to support this club. You seem to be unaware that human beings are capable of condemning some actions whilst also condemning others. He feigned injury, simple as, I hate it when other players do it and I hate it when Barton does it. It's called being objective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 yep Barton went to assist Gervinho to get off the ground, but!! Gervinho then turned on Barton as Barton helped him get up! which caused the fracas, watch iplayer and you can clearly see the offence happening, funny how the stamping has drifted into the background and all the emphisis is on Barton starting the bother. Assist him to get off the ground Superb. Barton helped him to get up. Interesting view on things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 yep Barton went to assist Gervinho to get off the ground, but!! Gervinho then turned on Barton as Barton helped him get up! which caused the fracas, watch iplayer and you can clearly see the offence happening, funny how the stamping has drifted into the background and all the emphisis is on Barton starting the bother. That's what disappoints me the most, as I said yesterday all the attention is on joey, yet of the three players invol ed in unsavoury activiy yesterday, he was the one least in the wrong. A player who intentionally and cowardly stamped on another achielles, something that could easy have result in a seasn or career ending injury and a person who tried to cheat and raised his hands to the face of another player are forgotten about because joey grab the said cheater's shirt too vigorously and made the most of of slap. Sad that some of the most vocal profess to support this club. I don't think a single person across the country has ignored the stamp, it's been roundly condemned and there have been calls for the FA to look at the video for further punishment. That doesn't mean we keep our head in the sand wrt our own players and how they conduct themselves. I don't want to see them putting themselves in a position where they might get sent off, and Barton came perilously close to it yesterday. If the ref had been looking the right way he'd have gone IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Guess I'll be listening to 606 for the first time in 6 years tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Hoser Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 One more sidenote, I'm sadly very proud that I managed to spell Scezney correct first time. You mean Szczesny? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Seem to have Joey Barton in the middle of my life right now and it looks like he'll be living closely with me over the next year, like some kind of delinquent/mischievious son. Hope it doesn't become unbearable. Twitter and it's use to drive media stories is making everything so much worse. One anxiety I have is without Nolan around to generally help keep the lid on, on the pitch it might just get out of control when teams inevitably target him again. Hope Joey is strong enough to deal with it, because I believe we really need the positive qualities he has this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 One more sidenote, I'm sadly very proud that I managed to spell Scezney correct first time. You mean Szczesny? Damnit! I even Googled it after I first typed it out and it didn't say 'Did you mean' so I assumed I got it right. Worst day ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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