Joey Barton (now retired)

[Guest Chubby Jason]

People STILL trying to justify the cack handed, disgusting way this club is run are pretty staggering to be honest.

[Dokko]

Security? If he cannot make the multiple millions he's already made last his lifetime then he is a bigger mug than I ever thought possible.

 

 

 

This. It's hard to weep for the uncertain financial future of poor racehorse-owning Joey Barton. I'm extremely good at what I do and get a reasonable wedge for doing it, but it would take me decades to earn what Joey has trousered from just one season at NUFC.

 

Yes but the going rate for a footballer is a lot more than people get for what society would deen more important jobs whether it is a bricklayer, a nurse, or your avarage office worker or factory line worker at Nissan.

Footballers at the top level get ridiculous wages but only in comparison to most of the population.

Rightly or wrongly the pay is onlty realistically compared with what other premiership clubs' players are earning.

 

Missing the point by some distance. He doesn't have to think about security, he's sucure for life, so his kids and their kids and generations for a long time. Security has been mentioned more than a couple of times in here, which I find ridiculous. Mentioning security is comparing his situation to the average Joe, us who are struggling with bills, looking for work, losing their homes, their businesses, Barton will never understand that, so people mentioning security can lay off the dramatics IMO.

 

 

Why won't he understand what that feels like ?

 

Do you forget he was raised in one of the roughest estates in the UK where un-employment is rife and most live below the breadline.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't forget, and why I'd imagine he's even more careful with his money. Talk of security is ludicrous don't you think? And my only point on this.

[SEMTEX]

Again missing the point, security has no relevance when you are dealing in millions in the bank.

 

I don't think it matters what the figures are, the fact is he's chosen a career and he's one of the best in the business*. He has made a decision which will allow him to continue to be one of the highest paid people in his profession for years to come, which is particularly important given the lifespan of a footballers career.

 

No matter where I end up in my career, if I think I'm one of the best, and others do too, then I want to be paid accordingly, and in the instance of a footballer, contract length is a massive factor.

 

His NUFC option was stay in a job where you hate your bosses, but it still has some perks, but ultimately, you're out in a year. His QPR option was go somewhere where he doesn't hate the ownership, and he has a job for another 4 years, being paid the going rate for someone of his calibre.

 

I don't think this constitutes "security" in the common financial sense btw, it's just his right to be getting paid the going rate for someone in his line of work.

 

 

* this doesn't mean I think he's world class from a football POV, but looking at all professional footballers in the world, he's one of the best around. Along with 5,000 others.

[Guest thenorthumbrian]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare.

 

It's not like Cabaye suddenly just materialised into existence when we signed him - Nut is referring to his set piece taking ability, which is something that can be judged based on his career in French football. Taking a corner isn't more difficult in the premier league.

 

Great let's not worry about him adapting to the pace of the Premier League. At least we'll have good corners....

 

Do you think Man City thought "s***, let's not get Aguero to replace Tevez, he might not adapt".

 

Cabaye is a class player man.

 

Cabaye might be class, he would be better with as many other class players around him as possible.

Barton is in that catergory.

[Guest]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare.

 

It's not like Cabaye suddenly just materialised into existence when we signed him - Nut is referring to his set piece taking ability, which is something that can be judged based on his career in French football. Taking a corner isn't more difficult in the premier league.

 

Great let's not worry about him adapting to the pace of the Premier League. At least we'll have good corners....

 

Do you think Man City thought "s***, let's not get Aguero to replace Tevez, he might not adapt".

 

Cabaye is a class player man.

 

Don't post crap man. Are you seriously comparing our squad and it's limited options with Man City's??

 

 

I'm comparing City replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League, to Newcastle replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League.

[powellnufc]

Would be funny if he failed his medical

[hoppaz]

I don't know if there is more uproar when he is going then when he signed. QPR ffs joey

[Guest bimpy474]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare.

 

It's not like Cabaye suddenly just materialised into existence when we signed him - Nut is referring to his set piece taking ability, which is something that can be judged based on his career in French football. Taking a corner isn't more difficult in the premier league.

 

Great let's not worry about him adapting to the pace of the Premier League. At least we'll have good corners....

 

Do you think Man City thought "s***, let's not get Aguero to replace Tevez, he might not adapt".

 

Cabaye is a class player man.

 

Don't post crap man. Are you seriously comparing our squad and it's limited options with Man City's??

 

 

I'm comparing City replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League, to Newcastle replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League.

 

This point is very true, its only their prices which differ.

[Karjala]

People STILL trying to justify the cack handed, disgusting way this club is run are pretty staggering to be honest.

Amazing isnt it?

[Cajun]

I bet being close to Nolan again helps his decision, Joey likes a bear.

[GM]

People STILL trying to justify the cack handed, disgusting way this club is run are pretty staggering to be honest.

Amazing isnt it?

 

Really can't believe the histrionics over this.

[Guest]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare.

 

It's not like Cabaye suddenly just materialised into existence when we signed him - Nut is referring to his set piece taking ability, which is something that can be judged based on his career in French football. Taking a corner isn't more difficult in the premier league.

 

Great let's not worry about him adapting to the pace of the Premier League. At least we'll have good corners....

 

Do you think Man City thought "s***, let's not get Aguero to replace Tevez, he might not adapt".

 

Cabaye is a class player man.

 

Don't post crap man. Are you seriously comparing our squad and it's limited options with Man City's??

 

 

I'm comparing City replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League, to Newcastle replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League.

 

This point is very true, its only their prices which differ.

 

I'm guessing Aguero has a similar market value to Tevez, and without clauses/being released Cabaye & Barton would have been similar too. I don't see why it's a bad comparison tbh, plus Cabaye will have Tiote & Jonas around him who do know the league.

[Sifu]

Would be funny if he failed his medical

 

His "foot problem" might help for this to happen

[Si]

Security? If he cannot make the multiple millions he's already made last his lifetime then he is a bigger mug than I ever thought possible.

 

 

 

This. It's hard to weep for the uncertain financial future of poor racehorse-owning Joey Barton. I'm extremely good at what I do and get a reasonable wedge for doing it, but it would take me decades to earn what Joey has trousered from just one season at NUFC.

 

Yes but the going rate for a footballer is a lot more than people get for what society would deen more important jobs whether it is a bricklayer, a nurse, or your avarage office worker or factory line worker at Nissan.

Footballers at the top level get ridiculous wages but only in comparison to most of the population.

Rightly or wrongly the pay is onlty realistically compared with what other premiership clubs' players are earning.

 

Missing the point by some distance. He doesn't have to think about security, he's sucure for life, so his kids and their kids and generations for a long time. Security has been mentioned more than a couple of times in here, which I find ridiculous. Mentioning security is comparing his situation to the average Joe, us who are struggling with bills, looking for work, losing their homes, their businesses, Barton will never understand that, so people mentioning security can lay off the dramatics IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

I disagree. It's all relative. If Barton lived in a 3 bed semi, and drove a 52 plate astra then yes, what he has in the bank would mean security for the rest of his life. But he doesn't.

 

Again missing the point, security has no relevance when you are dealing in millions in the bank.

 

Tell that to anyone with a few mill in the bank looking at the possible end of their income in a year.

 

He'd get offers after here. Probably a better club than QPR as well.

 

Again your assuming that De Jong doesn't break his leg this season. Any time a club let a footballer enter the last year of their contract a gamble is made on all parts.

 

Will he be decent and we can resign him.

 

Will he break his leg and we can get rid.

 

Will he be shit and we can get rid.

 

Will he be too good and we can't afford to keep him.

 

Will a cuntish London club get taken over by Cuntish owners and throw money at him.

 

 

 

 

We gambled and lost.

[thenige]

Cheers Joey, the good just about outweighing the bad. All the best at QPR, hope we don't end up playing 'Pistol Pete' RM...

[Guest bimpy474]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare.

 

It's not like Cabaye suddenly just materialised into existence when we signed him - Nut is referring to his set piece taking ability, which is something that can be judged based on his career in French football. Taking a corner isn't more difficult in the premier league.

 

Great let's not worry about him adapting to the pace of the Premier League. At least we'll have good corners....

 

Do you think Man City thought "s***, let's not get Aguero to replace Tevez, he might not adapt".

 

Cabaye is a class player man.

 

Don't post crap man. Are you seriously comparing our squad and it's limited options with Man City's??

 

 

I'm comparing City replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League, to Newcastle replacing a proven player in the Premier League to someone very talented but not proven in the Premier League.

 

This point is very true, its only their prices which differ.

 

I'm guessing Aguero has a similar market value to Tevez, and without clauses/being released Cabaye & Barton would have been similar too. I don't see why it's a bad comparison tbh, plus Cabaye will have Tiote & Jonas around him who do know the league.

 

Without sounding like i want bum you, i think your point was perfectly put and well thought out, and accurate.

 

Your not comparing us to Man City but the thought process behind the signing of certain players.

 

Edit, just realised when i said prices differ, i meant our two compared to their two, not Aguero to Tevez

[Hanshithispantz]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there.

 

Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is.

 

Gosling?

 

Actualy fuck it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats  (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall).

 

We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway.

[Fenham Mag]

Wonder if Taarabt will give up the #7 shirt

[Dokko]

If he broke his leg and couldn't play again he'd be set for life with the insurance payout. He'd have a great case to say he could have got 4 years on his current whack if it wasn't for the broken leg. See Richards for tottenham and his payout.

[Guest bimpy474]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there.

 

Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is.

 

Gosling?

 

Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats  (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall).

 

We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway.

 

Would you feel better if i bought you an ice cream, you sound like you need a cuddle.

[Hanshithispantz]

We've actualy just given away a player for free man, one of our best performers last season (and some would argue the best, he certainly wasn't far off), how are people kidding themselves that there was some actual possotive side to this decision

[Guest]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there.

 

Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is.

 

Gosling?

 

Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats  (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall).

 

We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway.

 

Hang on a second, is the argument that Ashley's only in it for the money and that's it, or that we're giving players away for nowt now? Barton's was a punishment for how he acted the twat to his employers in public. Apart from that, we've never just given anyone away. Stupid argument tbh.

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

 

Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there.

 

Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is.

 

Gosling?

 

Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats  (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall).

 

We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway.

 

Would you feel better if i bought you an ice cream, you sound like you need a cuddle.

If it sounds like I need a cuddle then why are you offering Ice Cream?

 

I'd take a cuddle like, if you're offering.

[Guest bimpy474]

We've actualy just given away a player for free man, one of our best performers last season (and some would argue the best, he certainly wasn't far off), how are people kidding themselves that there was some actual possotive side to this decision

 

There is only one positive side and thats the Barton flying circus that comes with his drama queen antics.

 

Football side of it we have lost out big time, no doubt about that.

[Interpolic]

Letting Joey Barton go on a free and fannying about over buying a new left back when Ryan Taylor has started our last 4 league games ffs.

 

And that's ignoring the need for a striker and the lack of cover at the back.  We need to keep our fingers crossed that the injured players in our squad overcome their problems, because we're selling players that were playing week-in, week-out last season and taking another huge gamble.