joeyt Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, TRon said: I don't know who the female commentator is on MOTD but I can't watch it when she's trying to shout excitedly. It sounds fake. But often when they are co-commenting they are very good, generally very knowledgable. It's got nothing to do with having a man next to them to keep them right, just as most of the female analysts don't need a man next to them in the tv studio to make valid observations. Sounds like you're lumping all women commentators together based on one person on match of the day Like me saying I can't listen to Sam Matterface so therefore I don't like male commentators Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Andy Hinchcliffe played almost 400 games as a professional footballer, including gaining 7 caps for England. Don Goodman made nearer to 600 appearances domestically, though was not lucky enough to receive an international call up. These two must disprove something about what playing experience counts for when it comes to making a good football commentator, as they are both bloody awful at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Hinchcliffe is the worst co-commentator on the planet. Getting to the stage where I’m going to mute it next time he’s on. The Captain Hindsight moniker should be used for him and not Starmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 You hear people say you can't be a beautiful, sensual commentator like Karen Carney and still be logical. She's proved them wrong. Part of the attraction in fact for me to be attracted to a woman, she has to be as intelligent or slightly less intelligent than Peter Drury. And she is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 If only male ex-professional fotballers can have any legitimate insights on the male game, it does kind of make most this forum a bit obsolete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 8 hours ago, STM said: Think Joey has gone full on Trump now. Give it a week and he will being interviewed by Piers Morgan. Called it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) It's got nowt to do with who says it, it's what's said. It did take a little while to get used to a woman but after a while you just listen to what they say, some are good, some are bad, just like the blokes. Few of them trot out the line of "I've played at a higher level than you so know more than you" but when you listen you have to think "he's talking shite" Edited December 7, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: You hear people say you can't be a beautiful, sensual commentator like Karen Carney and still be logical. She's proved them wrong. Part of the attraction in fact for me to be attracted to a woman, she has to be as intelligent or slightly less intelligent than Peter Drury. And she is. Really? I think I've only heard Karen Carney's punditry a few times and she's managed to completely fuck up her point and trip over her words every time. Plus she speaks like her mouth is full of marbles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Izakaya said: Really? I think I've only heard Karen Carney's punditry a few times and she's managed to completely fuck up her point and trip over her words every time. Plus she speaks like her mouth is full of marbles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Had on a second.... ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Had on a second.... ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, joeyt said: Sounds like you're lumping all women commentators together based on one person on match of the day Like me saying I can't listen to Sam Matterface so therefore I don't like male commentators Well I'm going off the only example I know of as the main commentator, so that's all I can go off. I also categorically said that for the most part the female co-commentators have been great. I think you are just seeing what you want to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Barton is a clown his appearance on the James English podcast was embarrassing. Barton is starting up his own podcast wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t just some nonsense to whip up a frenzy and traction for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Easy to forget about this after tonight’s game but Barton was on Piers Morgan tonight and unsurprisingly he’s changed his argument from all women shouldn’t be allowed to talk about the men’s game to it being earned on merit. I thought the interview was going well until he invited not one but three extra people on and it just became a shouting match. It’s quite sad too that they invited that mess Pearl Davis on to obviously just spew out controversial nonsense. Barton of course loved her because she’s exactly the type of person he’d have on his own podcast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 15 hours ago, TRon said: That bit I agree with. They can make very decent co-commentators though when they're not trying to sound like the female version of Martin Tyler. I’m the other way - female commentators haven’t really arsed me one bit. I haven’t heard a female co-commentator I’ve liked. I haven’t heard a male one I’ve liked either, though. So there is that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 16 hours ago, gdm said: Barton is a clown his appearance on the James English podcast was embarrassing. Barton is starting up his own podcast wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t just some nonsense to whip up a frenzy and traction for it so predictable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Decky said: Easy to forget about this after tonight’s game but Barton was on Piers Morgan tonight and unsurprisingly he’s changed his argument from all women shouldn’t be allowed to talk about the men’s game to it being earned on merit. I thought the interview was going well until he invited not one but three extra people on and it just became a shouting match. It’s quite sad too that they invited that mess Pearl Davis on to obviously just spew out controversial nonsense. Barton of course loved her because she’s exactly the type of person he’d have on his own podcast. What a car crash Imagine being on a show with Piers Morgan and there being two bigger whoppers than him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Canny funny how he started licking Bianca's arse saying how well she'd done to work herself up the ladder to becoming a respected pundit. But Gabriel Agbonlahor can get a primetime job in front of everone else just cos he played averagely in the Prem Was desperate for him to answer the question about his daughter and if she ever wanted to commentate on men's football should she be allowed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 His argument was all over the place he doesn’t once really give an answer why it’s ok for men that hasn’t played the game yet it’s not ok for woman who have played and that’s coz essentially he’s saying men can read and understand the game better than women wether they’ve played or not. He also massively back tracked from his original tweet. and that Pearl lassie Jesus Chris she’s setting women back about 50 years with her ramblings. She probably doesn’t even believe half the stuff she says but you know give her a platform being controversial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, gdm said: His argument was all over the place he doesn’t once really give an answer why it’s ok for men that hasn’t played the game yet it’s not ok for woman who have played and that’s coz essentially he’s saying men can read and understand the game better than women wether they’ve played or not. He also massively back tracked from his original tweet. and that Pearl lassie Jesus Chris she’s setting women back about 50 years with her ramblings. She probably doesn’t even believe half the stuff she says but you know give her a platform being controversial Grifting is a legitimate career now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) Joe Cole can barely talk English and has landed a job doing punditry because he was decent at football. Sort that shit out before you determine someone's shit for having a vagina. Edited December 8, 2023 by GEFAFWISP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Only watched half of it so far, but Morgan appeared to go easy on him. He allowed him to dodge the question about male commentators such as Motson or Tyler who had no professional experience yet made very successful careers out of commentating. Barton went off on a tangent and Piers Morgan obviously secretly agrees with him as he didn't pull him up on it like he does with others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I don't understand this idea of "OK, women can be commentators/referees/managers as long as they're there on merit and are really good at what they do" There are fucking awful male pundits, Commentators, refs and managers, we complain about them every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlueStar said: I don't understand this idea of "OK, women can be commentators/referees/managers as long as they're there on merit and are really good at what they do" There are fucking awful male pundits, Commentators, refs and managers, we complain about them every week. Exactly..should be able to complain about anyone regardless of gender!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 https://x.com/joey7barton/status/1733092288232911150?s=46&t=VsasybHjLL5SWspjxkYA3w he appears to blaming women for footballers having affairs now the man is unhinged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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