Guest Shaun Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He's right. It's not the right time to say it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thank christ he's gone, sick to death of him bleating every 5 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He's right. It's not the right time to say it though. What's he right about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He's right. It's not the right time to say it though. What's he right about? How suicide can so easily be prevented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That's not what offended people. I would say it was 1. Timing 2. Implication Speed was selfish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That's not what offended people. I would say it was 1. Timing 2. Implication Speed was selfish Exactly, I don't agree that suicide is easily preventable but that's not the offensive bit. I think the selfishness is the main issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think too much was made of it but that was always going to be the case when he's tweeted it a few hours after the news broke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He was. What did his family and friends do to deserve the pain he's put them through? (if he did take his own life) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He was. What did his family and friends do to deserve the pain he's put them through? (if he did take his own life) kind of shows how he was feeling if he'd do that then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He was. What did his family and friends do to deserve the pain he's put them through? (if he did take his own life) How can anyone call him selfish when not one person knows what was going on in his head? Including his closest mates am actually sick of people saying this 'selfish' shit now...argued with a few people about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He was. What did his family and friends do to deserve the pain he's put them through? (if he did take his own life) Nothing, but that's not the point. Getting to a point mentally where you can see no other way out could never be described as selfish. Thinking logically, of course you would never want to hurt your loved ones like that, but logic doesn't apply. This is assuming their was a depression related reason, which we don't know yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Spot on Wilson. Nobody knows the crack till the Inquest is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Joey Barton has claimed his departure from Newcastle was due to a bonus dispute. Barton joined QPR in August after being placed on the transfer list by Newcastle following a Twitter rant in which he criticised the club's board. He has subsequently spoken out against the regime of owner Mike Ashley and managing director Derek Llambias and has now gone a step further by alleging he and other big-name players had been forced out of the Tyneside club after refusing to agree to a bonus proposal. Barton told the QPR podcast Open All R's: "Newcastle, as a playing squad, were the only club in Premier League history not to sign a bonus sheet. It was unprecedented. "We refused as a playing staff (to sign) as they tried to railroad the players into signing a bonus sheet. "In their opinion we were paid workforce. They thought we were Sports Direct and we should do what the subordinates at Sports Direct do, forgetting they were dealing with 20-odd egos, probably 10 self-sufficient men in a position to make a number of different judgements. "Myself and the bigger-name players at the time advised the playing staff because we were head of the playing committee not to sign the bonus sheet and that filtered back to boardroom level. "It's no coincidence that I was given away. "It's all about power and control. They are running the football club and it's going really well for them at the minute but that's more a testament to the players and the fans, and also the manager (Alan Pardew). The manager has been different class." Barton also claimed promises made to him by the board were not fulfilled. He said: "They promised a number of different things and delivered on very few of them. "At Newcastle I couldn't take to the pitch and lie to the fans and be a part of it. You are doing it for yourself, the fans and the football club but if you fundamentally despise everything that the owners stand for it is very difficult. "I am a man of principles, I am a very principled individual and for me taking money off fans and taking the p*** out of them is not what I am about. I would rather walk away with my dignity and self-respect intact and I feel I have done that." Barton also dismissed the suggestion he owed the club a degree of loyalty for standing by him when he was sentenced to six months in prison in 2008 after admitting a charge of assault and affray. "A lot of people say to me 'Newcastle paid your wages when I was in jail' but they never," he said. "Not that I wanted to be but I was not paid. Newcastle refused to comment on any of Barton's claims. http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/11/29/SOCCER_Barton.html&BID=165 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Spot on Wilson. Nobody knows the crack till the Inquest is done. inquest was today. adjurned till january 30th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Spot on Wilson. Nobody knows the crack till the Inquest is done. inquest was today. adjurned till january 30th. Yep so if people can only shut up till then & leave his family in peace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Steven Taylor has mentioned the bonus issue as being a big deal a fair few times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Many people view suicide as a selfish act HOWEVER Joey fkn Barton who knows the media jump alover what he says on twitter saying this on the day of Gary's death just shows how much of utter attention seeking cunt he really is. I have a real hatred for Joey and this kind of shit really does justify it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Barton's reply to 'Leazeslad' who the papers picked up on a quote by aimed at Barton after his comments on Sunday that suicide was selfish http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/302917_10150423278879570_741094569_8226014_1892146715_n.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 need to get that boy charged man, 17%, living on the edge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think Leazeslad picked up on the timing - which was fair enough. ''on today of all days'' he said. Also someone called Shaun Proud off twitter was in the Mail and the star! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 need to get that boy charged man, 17%, living on the edge It clearly says 18%, don't just lie bro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Joey Barton has claimed his departure from Newcastle was due to a bonus dispute. Barton joined QPR in August after being placed on the transfer list by Newcastle following a Twitter rant in which he criticised the club's board. He has subsequently spoken out against the regime of owner Mike Ashley and managing director Derek Llambias and has now gone a step further by alleging he and other big-name players had been forced out of the Tyneside club after refusing to agree to a bonus proposal. Barton told the QPR podcast Open All R's: "Newcastle, as a playing squad, were the only club in Premier League history not to sign a bonus sheet. It was unprecedented. "We refused as a playing staff (to sign) as they tried to railroad the players into signing a bonus sheet. "In their opinion we were paid workforce. They thought we were Sports Direct and we should do what the subordinates at Sports Direct do, forgetting they were dealing with 20-odd egos, probably 10 self-sufficient men in a position to make a number of different judgements. "Myself and the bigger-name players at the time advised the playing staff because we were head of the playing committee not to sign the bonus sheet and that filtered back to boardroom level. "It's no coincidence that I was given away. "It's all about power and control. They are running the football club and it's going really well for them at the minute but that's more a testament to the players and the fans, and also the manager (Alan Pardew). The manager has been different class." Barton also claimed promises made to him by the board were not fulfilled. He said: "They promised a number of different things and delivered on very few of them. "At Newcastle I couldn't take to the pitch and lie to the fans and be a part of it. You are doing it for yourself, the fans and the football club but if you fundamentally despise everything that the owners stand for it is very difficult. "I am a man of principles, I am a very principled individual and for me taking money off fans and taking the p*** out of them is not what I am about. I would rather walk away with my dignity and self-respect intact and I feel I have done that." Barton also dismissed the suggestion he owed the club a degree of loyalty for standing by him when he was sentenced to six months in prison in 2008 after admitting a charge of assault and affray. "A lot of people say to me 'Newcastle paid your wages when I was in jail' but they never," he said. "Not that I wanted to be but I was not paid. Newcastle refused to comment on any of Barton's claims. http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/11/29/SOCCER_Barton.html&BID=165 Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That article sums up what a shit of man he is. Pleased he's no longer here. Poison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That article sums up what a shit of man he is. Pleased he's no longer here. Poison. You must have loved it when we sent him to train with the reserves that week, though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hahahah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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