Gallowgate Toon Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dunno if it's true but I'd be doing exactly the same in his position. Where's the ambition? I'd say the club was lacking ambition if we hadn't accepted the deal, limiting ourselves to a stupidly overhyped, glorified battering ram of a striker who, if anything limited our style of play. We can get players a on a different level to AC with that cash. Seriously what is with the clamour for Carroll on here, he's not that good and never will be, he wasn't even the best player in our squad. What tools apart from heading does he really have to make it as a great player? His skill is average, as is his pace, intelligence and finishing. People need to give their heads a shake saying he was going to be a PL great (not specifically you Dave), after scoring 11 goals in one of the worst standard seasons in the league's history, a season where Leon Best has scored a hattrick and a newly promoted club has hit 5+ goals in 3 matches and lets not forget Kevin Nolan already has 10 goals as well. We now have a great chance to build a good footballing side with some higher level players, with this money we can get 6/7 Ben Afra/Tiote like signings ffs, If Andy Carroll had stayed we'd have been confined to alot of boring route 1 stuff and i wouldn't want a team to be built around him for long as he can only take you to a certain level as aplayer. Onwards and upwards i say. Good luck with that. Jesus H. Christ. I'm sure that post is all just in our heads, it can't really have happened, can it? Unbelievable. 6 or 7 Ben Arfa/Tiote-style signings? On this day I weep for the tragic passing of reality-based arguments. Firstly buying good players for minimal fees isn't hard like see Dembele, Afellay, VDV and Sessegnon for recent proof. Secondly i wasn't saying that 6/7 was a realistic outcome either, i was saying that in terms of price equivalence you 'CAN' (not will realistically) get that as those deals were around the 5m mark and 7 x 5 = 35. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 fair enough then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dunno if it's true but I'd be doing exactly the same in his position. Where's the ambition? I'd say the club was lacking ambition if we hadn't accepted the deal, limiting ourselves to a stupidly overhyped, glorified battering ram of a striker who, if anything limited our style of play. We can get players a on a different level to AC with that cash. Seriously what is with the clamour for Carroll on here, he's not that good and never will be, he wasn't even the best player in our squad. What tools apart from heading does he really have to make it as a great player? His skill is average, as is his pace, intelligence and finishing. People need to give their heads a shake saying he was going to be a PL great (not specifically you Dave), after scoring 11 goals in one of the worst standard seasons in the league's history, a season where Leon Best has scored a hattrick and a newly promoted club has hit 5+ goals in 3 matches and lets not forget Kevin Nolan already has 10 goals as well. We now have a great chance to build a good footballing side with some higher level players, with this money we can get 6/7 Ben Afra/Tiote like signings ffs, If Andy Carroll had stayed we'd have been confined to alot of boring route 1 stuff and i wouldn't want a team to be built around him for long as he can only take you to a certain level as aplayer. Onwards and upwards i say. Good luck with that. Jesus H. Christ. I'm sure that post is all just in our heads, it can't really have happened, can it? Unbelievable. 6 or 7 Ben Arfa/Tiote-style signings? On this day I weep for the tragic passing of reality-based arguments. Firstly buying good players for minimal fees isn't hard like see Dembele, Afellay, VDV and Sessegnon for recent proof. Secondly i wasn't saying that 6/7 was a realistic outcome either, i was saying that in terms of price equivalence you 'CAN' (not will realistically) get that as those deals were around the 5m mark and 7 x 5 = 35. And pay them nothing? Doubt they'll come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dunno if it's true but I'd be doing exactly the same in his position. Where's the ambition? I'd say the club was lacking ambition if we hadn't accepted the deal, limiting ourselves to a stupidly overhyped, glorified battering ram of a striker who, if anything limited our style of play. We can get players a on a different level to AC with that cash. Seriously what is with the clamour for Carroll on here, he's not that good and never will be, he wasn't even the best player in our squad. What tools apart from heading does he really have to make it as a great player? His skill is average, as is his pace, intelligence and finishing. People need to give their heads a shake saying he was going to be a PL great (not specifically you Dave), after scoring 11 goals in one of the worst standard seasons in the league's history, a season where Leon Best has scored a hattrick and a newly promoted club has hit 5+ goals in 3 matches and lets not forget Kevin Nolan already has 10 goals as well. We now have a great chance to build a good footballing side with some higher level players, with this money we can get 6/7 Ben Afra/Tiote like signings ffs, If Andy Carroll had stayed we'd have been confined to alot of boring route 1 stuff and i wouldn't want a team to be built around him for long as he can only take you to a certain level as aplayer. Onwards and upwards i say. Good luck with that. Jesus H. Christ. I'm sure that post is all just in our heads, it can't really have happened, can it? Unbelievable. 6 or 7 Ben Arfa/Tiote-style signings? On this day I weep for the tragic passing of reality-based arguments. Firstly buying good players for minimal fees isn't hard like see Dembele, Afellay, VDV and Sessegnon for recent proof. Secondly i wasn't saying that 6/7 was a realistic outcome either, i was saying that in terms of price equivalence you 'CAN' (not will realistically) get that as those deals were around the 5m mark and 7 x 5 = 35. And pay them nothing? Doubt they'll come. Hence why i put 6 as well to allow an extra 5m in wages if that's how it will work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I doubt they'll come for four grand a week either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 The comment about Carroll was what made me laugh. On a different level? Get real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Caulkin says that there will be a "quite positive" update on Barton's contract situation in tomorrows papers (from today's Pardew press conference). Surely the only positive thing is that it's signed? Anything else just adds to the delay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Caulkin says that there will be a "quite positive" update on Barton's contract situation in tomorrows papers (from today's Pardew press conference). Surely the only positive thing is that it's signed? Anything else just adds to the delay. Pardew's gone and bought some pens from WH Smith so Barton can sign the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Nah,Ashley's got a Betfred pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Caulkin says that there will be a "quite positive" update on Barton's contract situation in tomorrows papers (from today's Pardew press conference). Surely the only positive thing is that it's signed? Anything else just adds to the delay. Pardew's gone and bought got some pens on loan from WH Smith so Barton can sign the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Caulkin says that there will be a "quite positive" update on Barton's contract situation in tomorrows papers (from today's Pardew press conference). Surely the only positive thing is that it's signed? Anything else just adds to the delay. Pardew's gone and bought got some pens on loan from WH Smith so Barton can sign the contract. I think he might have just nicked one from the Post Office upstairs actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Caulkin says that there will be a "quite positive" update on Barton's contract situation in tomorrows papers (from today's Pardew press conference). Surely the only positive thing is that it's signed? Anything else just adds to the delay. Pardew's gone and bought got some pens on loan from WH Smith so Barton can sign the contract. I think he might have just nicked one from the Post Office upstairs actually. I'm not ITK or anything, but I've been told they were actually taken from Argos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Exactly. The bulk of the £35 million will go on wages, not transfer fees. A five year, £40K per week contract costs over £10 million. We will be lucky to spend £15 million on transfer fees this summer, on two to four players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dunno if this is posted, but it's a interview with him from Norwegians biggest tv channel. http://www.tv2sporten.no/fotball/england/premierleague/barton-frykter-sesongavslutningen-uten-carroll-3408282.html Text is in Norwegian but they talk English in the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dunno if this is posted, but it's a interview with him from Norwegians biggest tv channel. http://www.tv2sporten.no/fotball/england/premierleague/barton-frykter-sesongavslutningen-uten-carroll-3408282.html Text is in Norwegian but they talk English in the video. Looks like it is only available to Norwegians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yup, not available in England. Please recreate the interview in paint with captions please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1353870/Newcastle-Sunderland-Andy-Carroll-Darren-Bent-departures.html Some interesting bits in there. - Pardew hopes to announce Barton's new contract next week - Enrique has asked for talks on his to be delayed under they are safe from relegation - Has called Ben Arfa back from France in preparation for his comeback in 6 weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Stop up or lose Jose....Good times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Stop up or lose Jose....Good times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Basically Barton says: Disappointing to lose a player of his calibre. Fantastic player, but also a good friend. Will be in contact for the rest of our lifes. Think he'll do well in Liverpool. Wish him all the luck in the world. And as our other scouser...: "Fantastic move for Carroll" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1353870/Newcastle-Sunderland-Andy-Carroll-Darren-Bent-departures.html Some interesting bits in there. - Enrique has asked for talks on his to be delayed under they are safe from relegation Let the backlash of the sale of Carroll begin... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Stop up or lose Jose....Good times What's unreasonable about that? He's not going to want another season in the Championship so wait until we're safe before re-negotiating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Stop up or lose Jose....Good times What's unreasonable about that? He's not going to want another season in the Championship so wait until we're safe before re-negotiating. Did I say it was unreasonable? Just a bit fucking sickening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Stop up or lose Jose....Good times What's unreasonable about that? He's not going to want another season in the Championship so wait until we're safe before re-negotiating. It would be quicker to list who would stay rather than who would leave if we got relegated again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Stop up or lose Jose....Good times What's unreasonable about that? He's not going to want another season in the Championship so wait until we're safe before re-negotiating. Did I say it was unreasonable? Just a bit f***ing sickening What's sickening? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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