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Cardiff City vs Newcastle United 13/9/09 Pre Match Thread - 2:05 KO, live on Sky


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God I can't wait for this, living in Newport (next City to Cardiff) and in an office with shed loads of season ticket holders. All I hear, on a daily basis is Michael Chopra bla bla bla.

 

Can't wait to ram it down their throats!  :celb:

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score?  Our midfielders have already shown they are a class above in this league and can score.  I don't really see the difference between the likes of Carroll and Ranger setting up our midfielders or the midfielders setting up someone like Harewood.

 

It would be nice to have our strikers banging them in but I don't see it being a worry.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score?

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

Well midfielders are hardly prolific, are they. If we're relying on Kevin Nolan and Danny Guthrie to score our goals this season, we'll end up scoring not many goals.

 

That said, i think Ronaldo was exaggerating a bit. I believe all our strikers can score goals in this league; once Carroll (in particular) notches one, i personally think he can go from strength to strength. I'd say the same for Ranger aswell, but i doubt he'll get as much game time now Carroll and Lovenkrands (and possibly Harewood?) are all available.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

 

Again, avoiding the question.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

 

Again, avoiding the question.

 

What are you on, man? :lol: Read my post above.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

Well midfielders are hardly prolific, are they. If we're relying on Kevin Nolan and Danny Guthrie to score our goals this season, we'll end up scoring not many goals.

 

That said, i think Ronaldo was exaggerating a bit. I believe all our strikers can score goals in this league; once Carroll (in particular) notches one, i personally think he can go from strength to strength. I'd say the same for Ranger aswell, but i doubt he'll get as much game time now Carroll and Lovenkrands (and possibly Harewood?) are all available.

 

It's not conventional but I can't see why we can't finish this season with three of our midfielders scoring over 10 and Ameobi scoring 15+.

 

My point was it doesn't matter who you're relying on to score your goals, if they're scoring you're fine, if not you're *******.

 

Man U and Chelsea tailor their tactics to allow the likes of Ronaldo and Lampard to score loads.  They don't care who's getting the goals as long as someone is scoring them.

 

Are Guthrie and Nolan worse finishers than Carroll, Ameobi and Ranger? Doubtful.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

 

Again, avoiding the question.

 

What are you on, man? :lol: Read my post above.

 

I was quoting Chezgiven, I answered you.  :blush:

 

Chezgiven totally avoided my argument which wasn't trying to state the difference between a striker and midfielder.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

 

Again, avoiding the question.

 

What are you on, man? :lol: Read my post above.

 

I was quoting Chezgiven, I answered you.  :blush:

 

Chezgiven totally avoided my argument which wasn't trying to state the difference between a striker and midfielder.

 

Yeah! Totally.

 

Its too banal a question to engage in. If your team scores 100 goals a season then it doesnt matter who scores them. If your team needs to score 100 goals (a hypothetical example), then you wouldnt rely on midfield to do it.

 

So "What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? ", the difference being that the probability of the midfielders getting the goals is lower seeing as they arent specialist goal scorers.

 

Not questioning your football knowledge, just your spasticated logic.

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

 

Again, avoiding the question.

 

What are you on, man? :lol: Read my post above.

 

I was quoting Chezgiven, I answered you.  :blush:

 

Chezgiven totally avoided my argument which wasn't trying to state the difference between a striker and midfielder.

 

Yeah! Totally.

 

Its too banal a question to engage in. If your team scores 100 goals a season then it doesnt matter who scores them. If your team needs to score 100 goals (a hypothetical example), then you wouldnt rely on midfield to do it.

 

So "What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? ", the difference being that the probability of tjhe midfielders getting the goals is lower seeing as they arent specialist goal scorers.

 

But the midfielders have have already proven they are capable of scoring enough, hence why we are top with only one of our strikers having scored and most goals coming from midfield.

 

If Nolan and Guthrie were suddenly said to now be strikers would that mean the worry was over?

 

 

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From a Cardiff fan

 

Biggest occasion at the new stadium to date in my opinion.

 

While it was devastating for the fans, I think the rest of the CCC is rejoicing in the fact that one of THE great names in British football is coming to their grounds this season. Certainly the chairmen will love the increase in their gate for one game!

 

12 Years ago it wouldn't have got into my wildest dreams that we would be playing the mighty Newcastle United in our shiny new stadium and, with a capacity crowd to see who goes top of one of the toughest leagues in football, especially when the game could decide who goes top of the league!

 

:smug:

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We have options on formation, even with Jobnas and Shola out.

 

 

------------------Harper

 

Simo------Tayls----------Colo--------Jose

 

 

Rtay------Guth-----------Smith-------Loven

 

-------------------Nolan

 

-------------------Ranger

 

 

 

------------------Harper

 

Simo------Tayls--------Colo--------Jose

 

Guth------Bart---------Smith-------Nolan

 

----------Ranger----------Loven

 

 

 

------------------Harper

 

Simo------Tayls----------Colo--------Jose

 

------------------Smith

-----Guth-----------------------Barton

 

------------------Nolan

------Ranger----------------Loven

 

 

 

 

------------------Harper

 

Simo------Tayls----------Colo--------Jose

 

--------Guth------------------Smith

 

------------------Barton

---Nolan----------------------------Loven

 

------------------Ranger

 

 

 

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We cannot keep relying on midfielders to score, we need Harewood in well before the game

 

What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? 

 

errr....

 

Seriously, explain it.

 

The difference between a striker and a midfielder?

 

No.

 

Again, avoiding the question.

 

What are you on, man? :lol: Read my post above.

 

I was quoting Chezgiven, I answered you.  :blush:

 

Chezgiven totally avoided my argument which wasn't trying to state the difference between a striker and midfielder.

 

Yeah! Totally.

 

Its too banal a question to engage in. If your team scores 100 goals a season then it doesnt matter who scores them. If your team needs to score 100 goals (a hypothetical example), then you wouldnt rely on midfield to do it.

 

So "What's the difference between relying on midfielders to score and relying on strikers to score? ", the difference being that the probability of tjhe midfielders getting the goals is lower seeing as they arent specialist goal scorers.

 

But the midfielders have have already proven they are capable of scoring enough, hence why we are top with only one of our strikers having scored and most goals coming from midfield.

 

If Nolan and Guthrie were suddenly said to now be strikers would that mean the worry was over?

 

 

 

'proven'

 

:nope:

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From a Cardiff fan

 

Biggest occasion at the new stadium to date in my opinion.

 

While it was devastating for the fans, I think the rest of the CCC is rejoicing in the fact that one of THE great names in British football is coming to their grounds this season. Certainly the chairmen will love the increase in their gate for one game!

 

12 Years ago it wouldn't have got into my wildest dreams that we would be playing the mighty Newcastle United in our shiny new stadium and, with a capacity crowd to see who goes top of one of the toughest leagues in football, especially when the game could decide who goes top of the league!

 

:smug:

 

All the Cardiff fans in my office are looking forward to it, not sue why because they are going to get smashed!

 

The stadium is shite aswell, looks like lego land.

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With Shola out, None of a strikers bar Lovekrands are capable of 1 in 3 imo. Ranger is still an unknown quantity obviously

 

Carroll is capable of 1 in 3.

 

This is fun. :aww:

 

you actually believe that?

 

Yes

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With Shola out, None of a strikers bar Lovekrands are capable of 1 in 3 imo. Ranger is still an unknown quantity obviously

 

Carroll is capable of 1 in 3.

 

This is fun. :aww:

 

you actually believe that?

 

I don't really know tbh mate. My comment was just as unsubstantiated as yours though, which was my point. In all honesty, i think if he played week-in week-out, he'd score a respectable amount of goals in this division. I wouldn't say he's good enough to be our 'number 9' this season, but i'm very happy to have him as either second or third choice. To me, he's probably a confidence player. He's got a lot of raw talent - i like his strength, his first touch and he's got a good amount of determination (not ridiculously slow, either)... but he just needs a goal. Thing is, he's got a fair strike on him aswell - it's not all about his heading ability. As soon as he gets one on the ground i think he'll jump on that and have a good season.

 

Carroll's got a lot of raw attributes that would work in this league. Had we not brought Lovenkrands in, i'd have little issue about having him and Shola as the main partnership. Not the most mobile but could be used effectively in this God-awful league.

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