Doug Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 What became more apparent than ever to me against Leicester was how obvious it now is to blood young, hungry, energetic players and finally get rid of the last of the has beens. Contrast Ranger with Geremi for instance. Geremi is so immobile he ended up a vitual passenger standing on the left wing getting in Enriques way more than anything in the first half last night, He will play one touch football as a link man if it is played to his feet but is never going to be a creative driving force in the team. Geremi in the side is like playing with 10 men IMO. 60K a week, just pay him off today and give a young player his place. He is a reminder to us all of the futile hasbeen signing policy which has both relegated and almost bankrupted this great club. Ranger was a breath of fresh air as he grew in stature and convidence as the match went on. Full of energy and running, he will only get better with more time on the field. I am sure some of the other youngsters can be the same. Build them up and bring them on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 On the other hand, players like Smith are just as important when bringing the younger players through. We've needed to get rid of Butt and Geremi for two years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'd never thought of using our youth players before now. Thank you, thank you ever so much for opening my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 a good mixture is the best recipe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Aye the right blend is a must, fort me Butt can leave but no on else, Vuckic can replace Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Oldgun that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Aye the right blend is a must, fort me Butt can leave but no on else, Vuckic can replace Butt. Aye, it's a great idea to play someone who is basically a supporting striker in dm sitting infront of the back 4 despite never starting a professional match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It's about getting the balance right. Experienced players are fine in the right areas like centre midfield where Smith has been outstanding for me. It's pretty clear at this level you don't need the pace throughout the side which is required in the premier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Need to introduce young uns to the team gradually. Bunging 3 or 4 in at once will fuck the team and the kids up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'd never thought of using our youth players before now. Thank you, thank you ever so much for opening my eyes. Its patently obvious the powers that be for the last 2 seasons have not thought of it though. Butt should never have pulled on a Newcastle shirt again after the defeat at Derby 2 years ago but carried on as the 'midfield dynamo' of choice right up until our demise. Do you not find that puzzling? I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Or we could just leave things as they are and carrying on winning football matches. Really tough decision that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Aye the right blend is a must, fort me Butt can leave but no on else, Vuckic can replace Butt. Aye, it's a great idea to play someone who is basically a supporting striker in dm sitting infront of the back 4 despite never starting a professional match. Smith, Nolan and Barton can all do the DM role we do not need Butt all he would do is take up a place on the bench a place a young very talented creative CM player could take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Reading were a perfect example of a team full of promising youngsters. They just couldn't compete with the experience in the Newcastle side. One or two at a time is the best way and get them off the bench when we're 2 or 3 up and the game is in the bag. Both Ranger and Geremi contributed to last night's win in their own way. One with a lot of eager running and no short measure of potential class, and the other with years of international and big game experience as we played the game out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Or we could just leave things as they are and carrying on winning football matches. Really tough decision that. that logic has never ever worked in the history of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Need to introduce young uns to the team gradually. Bunging 3 or 4 in at once will f*** the team and the kids up. This - and I'm not convinced about some of them(Lua Lua for example). As Hansen said once - you win nothing with a team of kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Need to introduce young uns to the team gradually. Bunging 3 or 4 in at once will f*** the team and the kids up. This - and I'm not convinced about some of them(Lua Lua for example). As Hansen said once - you win nothing with a team of kids. Aye... but he was wrong... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Need to introduce young uns to the team gradually. Bunging 3 or 4 in at once will f*** the team and the kids up. This - and I'm not convinced about some of them(Lua Lua for example). As Hansen said once - you win nothing with a team of kids. A couple of months before Man Utd won the title? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Or we could just leave things as they are and carrying on winning football matches. Really tough decision that. that logic has never ever worked in the history of the game. It may have worked in 1996 as we were on course for the title. Then signed Tino. Let's just leave the team as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Our youngsters are way too raw man ,Vuckic looked scared as fuck on the pitch yesterday, what we have right now is a good mix of young and old players and i'd like to keep it this way, ease the youngsters into first team football without putting too much pressure on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Or we could just leave things as they are and carrying on winning football matches. Really tough decision that. that logic has never ever worked in the history of the game. It may have worked in 1996 as we were on course for the title. Then signed Tino. Let's just leave the team as it is. its not even a nearly similar situation. we need players in. its a very simple concept for a club with a small squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It's about having the right mix. Hughton has done extremely well getting the mix right this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'd never thought of using our youth players before now. Thank you, thank you ever so much for opening my eyes. Its patently obvious the powers that be for the last 2 seasons have not thought of it though. Butt should never have pulled on a Newcastle shirt again after the defeat at Derby 2 years ago but carried on as the 'midfield dynamo' of choice right up until our demise. Do you not find that puzzling? I do. Well back when we played Derby we had hardly any academy options.. the problem then was a lack of depth in the central midfield role as far as I remember. Who were our actual options for that day? I remember the likes of Barton being injured. Also negative tactics played a big part, since Butt was really useful that season when Keegan used him, Geremi and Barton in a midfield 3 where they could use short quick passes and not have so much pressure to retain possession themselves. They also had Owen dropping in deep. I agree with you that youth should be used, but experience counts for a lot in this league and its not as if your point hasn't been said time and time again in other threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Or we could just leave things as they are and carrying on winning football matches. Really tough decision that. that logic has never ever worked in the history of the game. It may have worked in 1996 as we were on course for the title. Then signed Tino. Let's just leave the team as it is. its not even a nearly similar situation. we need players in. its a very simple concept for a club with a small squad. I'd like us to add to the squad today but only if the right player becomes available and I don't care who we bring in, they'll have to wait for their chance. If it comes down to it, then i'd be happy with what we've got and then just use the loan market if needed. You don't change a winning side. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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