Wullie Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 What is Glen Johnson doing? That's like the third time the left winger has got in behind him with acres of space. Luckily for Johnson the winger is pretty s***. Because he's garbage? His club form would suggest otherwise tbh. Would it? Whenever I've seen him for Liverpool, his defending's been typically hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 It is only a red card if it 'denies an obvious goal scoring opportunity', exactly the same as any other offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 What is Glen Johnson doing? That's like the third time the left winger has got in behind him with acres of space. Luckily for Johnson the winger is pretty s***. Because he's garbage? His club form would suggest otherwise tbh. Would it? Whenever I've seen him for Liverpool, his defending's been typically hilarious. He has been their best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that. Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf you dont seriously expect me to go through that do you? Cheers though, as I understood it any deliberate handball by the keeper outside his box warranted a red card. It seems that some referees are also under this impression tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that. Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'? Pretty much. He grabbed hold of the defender's shirt which obviously caused him to lose his balance & fall over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that. Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'? Surely not Rooney NEVER dives - it's only those pesky foreigners man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Townsend also said after viewing it for about the 4th or 5th time that they were grabbing each others' shirts, which is 50% right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that. Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'? Surely not Rooney NEVER dives - it's only those pesky foreigners man. I didnt think he did, he is too honest for things like that, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card. By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card. By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though. The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card. By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though. The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box) You're right actually. I'm sure we got a decision like that under SBR though, I was thinking WBA too but that was a backpass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 you need to start getting your facts right Wullie, you're becoming the forum embarrassment mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 you need to start getting your facts right Wullie, you're becoming the forum embarrassment mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card. By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though. The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box) You're right actually. I'm sure we got a decision like that under SBR though, I was thinking WBA too but that was a backpass. It was a European game I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity. yes No it isn't. since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm Sounds like a different interpretation to me What do you mean? Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card. By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though. The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box) You're right actually. I'm sure we got a decision like that under SBR though, I was thinking WBA too but that was a backpass. It was a European game I think. Bingo. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/3525557.stm Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Worst keeper i've ever seen at SJP, basically threw the ball in for Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that. Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'? Surely not Rooney NEVER dives - it's only those pesky foreigners man. I didnt think he did, he is too honest for things like that, tbf. Oh aye - I forgot. Bit like Owen and Gerrard anarl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Why'd Upson just stop there? Could've stuck his head on that no bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I'd love to think Rooney and Defore could form a partnership, they'd destry teams in the final 20 mimutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Defore scores, what a guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Defoe deserves a chance with Rooney, 20x the player Heskey is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Just got in from work and turned it on in time for the Defoe goal. My dad reckons Rooney dived? Didn't he say the other day in the Sun that he was a honest player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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