Guest neesy111 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Xisco was put down by kinnear, and kinnear never give him a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Either did hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 From the very limited viewing of both players Xisco is better than Best. Best has never been rated, he's never even had a good season at Championship level. I was speaking to friend of the family who's worked as a scout on and off, he says he saw Best play when he was 17, when he was 20, and last season for us and that every time he's never looked like having an ounce of quality about him. We signed a poor player who'd had a decent purple patch tbh. Atleast with Xisco he has some kind of pedigree, U21 Spanish international, played and scored at a similar level to Best prolifically. Aswell as a some kind of goalscoring history in La Liga for Depor. Plus, atleast he's scored a frikin goal for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Paying attention is fine, moreso for the facts. But basing harsh opinions on posted opnions is something i'd associate more with Skirge, bless him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 The goal for us, are you really counting that? maybe England's main problem this summer was overlooking nugent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Best & Xisco wont be used as starters unless CH is desperate. AC, Loven & Shola are in front of them & you would imagine any new signing is going to be as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 If everyone who has watched him for the reserves says he looked like he couldn't be fucked I have no reason not to believe them. Most of them seem pretty level headed and I don't see why they would all lie about the same thing while having no real link to each other. Maybe he wasn't uninterested just everyone hates him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 The goal for us, are you really counting that? maybe England's main problem this summer was overlooking nugent. I'm sorry but it's another thing that instantly puts him ahead of Best, a tap-in in the Premier League is better than no goals in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 What a load of shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Best V Xisco it reminds me of Owen V Oba. How low have we sunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 What a load of s*** Best hasn't even looked like scoring man You know the season before we signed him he scored 2 goals in 32 games, in the Championship! It's an abomination that we've signed this mug and we're stuck with him for 3 years. It's depressing that we're arguing over the virtues of these two very poor players btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 If everyone who has watched him for the reserves says he looked like he couldn't be f***ed I have no reason not to believe them. Most of them seem pretty level headed and I don't see why they would all lie about the same thing while having no real link to each other. Maybe he wasn't uninterested just everyone hates him. People mostly have an agenda, man. Everytime i've seen Xisco on a football he's looked fairly clumsy and mostly off the pace. He looks like he's trying though. It's very easy to paint ineffective strikers, attacking midfielders and wingers with the 'lack of effort' brush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Fair enough, I assume he just falls within the terms of the Luque dispensation act. Xisco will do no wrong and any failure will be will deemed a failure of everyone but the player. If only Best or Ranger were born somewhere a little more exotic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Xisco has played in far less games and actually found the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Fair enough, I assume he just falls within the terms of the Luque dispensation act. Xisco will do no wrong and any failure will be will deemed a failure of everyone but the player. If only Best or Ranger were born somewhere a little more exotic It's nowt to do with where they're born man. They're both shite, just Best is proven to be even more shite. Xisco atleast has past 'achievements' going for him, while Best has absolutely nothing except being poor even in the Championship. If it was possible I'd happily see them both replaced tomorrow morning, but if push came to shove I'd have more faith in Xisco doing anything in the Premier League than Best will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 As said, that must make David nugent quite a handy little England player. No wonder we did so badly this summer when he failed to make the cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Jon, go to bed man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 The only thing Best has over Xisco is the fact that your pal signed him. I was willing to give Best a chance and defended him several times when we signed him. But I saw him play several times with my own eyes, he's utter dogshite. Up against woeful Championship defenders like Anthony Gerrard and Jay DeMerit and the lad can't compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 My pal signed Best? Fuck me he is a sly old dog, I wasn't aware any of my mates had that much power at Newcastle. You are right pilko, far too tired for this nonsense now. Will be very pleased if the lad turns it around, using the cliché for a second it genuinely will be like a new signing and will save us a lot of hassle. I wish him all the luck in the world to prove the doubters wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Either did hughton. Not true. When Hughton took over for Keegan, Xisco started all three games of his tenure as temporary manager-- losses to Hull, Blackburn, and West Ham. Also started a cup game against Tottenham. Then Kinnear was appointed....and Xisco never started again. Came on late a couple of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Best must be effected by confidence or something, i imagine Hughton thought he could get some consistancy from him. For coventry last season he got 4 in 4 games at one point, went 4 more games with nothing. Then got 3 in 3 games. He can clearly score, he just stops doing it for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I'd rather play Xisco than Best for no other reason that being able to use the shit line "Panic from the Xisco" in match threads after he misses a shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I'd rather play Xisco than Best for no other reason that being able to use the shit line "Panic from the Xisco" in match threads after he misses a shot. Now that's a valid reason I can accept, there is quite a bit of Best punnage we mustn't forget though. I can't stand this music after goals thing but the thought of 'Simply the best" belting out of the PA system if he ever did score would be amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Crazy Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Best must be effected by confidence or something, i imagine Hughton thought he could get some consistancy from him. For coventry last season he got 4 in 4 games at one point, went 4 more games with nothing. Then got 3 in 3 games. He can clearly score, he just stops doing it for some reason. Answer: Lack of ability. He was a bad signing from day one. A waste of money. Bookmark this and let me eat my words happily at a later date if he does manage to score a bagful of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Either did hughton. Not true. When Hughton took over for Keegan, Xisco started all three games of his tenure as temporary manager-- losses to Hull, Blackburn, and West Ham. Also started a cup game against Tottenham. Then Kinnear was appointed....and Xisco never started again. Came on late a couple of times. That's the way I remember it. I also remember Kinnear going off on Xisco in the press for failing to work hard to get to the far post in a training session, IIRC. Then JFK buried him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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