The old Chris Hughton discussion thread

[mrmojorisin75]

Well thankfully we're home to WBA, who we'll probably not even need to beat, having just secured our top-flight status the week before with a 0-15 mullering at stamford bridge.

[SEMTEX]

stop fucking bolderising things man

[mrmojorisin75]

no

[Guest Brazilianbob]

These rumours about sacking Hughton have come from some journo seeing that NUFC were advertising for someone with managerial/coaching experience to replace Calderwood and has put two and two together and come up with five, i.e. Hughton must be getting the sack.  Lazy lazy journalism no more no less!

[Yorkie]

The home form has got me scared shitless.

 

With the players we've got, there's no wonder we're better away from home. Pack the midfield with a bunch of terriers, stifle the opposition, pop up with a fleeting attack. We're not blessed with great footballers in the middle of the park, but there's bags of stamina there - and that suits the away game. Fortunately, we've been taking our chances away from SJP n'all - which is a nice change. That could change any minute, given our lack of firepower, but we're doing okay so far. Bollocks refereeing aside, it was only a touch of genuine quality that saw us get beat at Man City... that'll just happen at them places. We played well as a team and it'll probably continue if we play the same system.

 

It's just another kettle of fish at home, though - the system just won't work. It's not a set-up that'll probe and press in this league - we don't have anything like the flair or attacking prowess. Hughton's made some gash decisions with regards to substitutions... but simply being a well-drilled bunch of battlers (can't knock anyone's attitude) isn't enough to take teams apart on our own turf. Revert to 4-4-2, absolutely, but then you're left with limited players to fill the void - ie Lovenkrands.

 

The quality in the squad, from an attacking point of view, is rubbish - and that's why we're not winning games at home. Hughton's mad bad decisions here and there, but it's merely emphasised by the fact he's got shit-all to work with. If we go down, it'll be primarily down to Mike Ashley and Nigel De Jong, not Hughton. The last thing i would do is sack the guy. Last thing.

[NG32]

Shola has to play at home !

 

 

[Yorkie]

Shola has to play full-stop. I'd have Hughton get him on an intense fitness regime. I know he's a good few years older than him... but Carroll's a big lad and he's improved his pace and stamina. It's not too late for Shola. He's going to be an important player this year and we need him as fit as a fiddle.

[merlin]

The home form has got me scared shitless.

 

With the players we've got, there's no wonder we're better away from home. Pack the midfield with a bunch of terriers, stifle the opposition, pop up with a fleeting attack. We're not blessed with great footballers in the middle of the park, but there's bags of stamina there - and that suits the away game. Fortunately, we've been taking our chances away from SJP n'all - which is a nice change. That could change any minute, given our lack of firepower, but we're doing okay so far. Bollocks refereeing aside, it was only a touch of genuine quality that saw us get beat at Man City... that'll just happen at them places. We played well as a team and it'll probably continue if we play the same system.

 

It's just another kettle of fish at home, though - the system just won't work. It's not a set-up that'll probe and press in this league - we don't have anything like the flair or attacking prowess. Hughton's made some gash decisions with regards to substitutions... but simply being a well-drilled bunch of battlers (can't knock anyone's attitude) isn't enough to take teams apart on our own turf. Revert to 4-4-2, absolutely, but then you're left with limited players to fill the void - ie Lovenkrands.

 

The quality in the squad, from an attacking point of view, is rubbish - and that's why we're not winning games at home. Hughton's mad bad decisions here and there, but it's merely emphasised by the fact he's got s***-all to work with. If we go down, it'll be primarily down to Mike Ashley and Nigel De Jong, not Hughton. The last thing i would do is sack the guy. Last thing.

 

It is NOT the last thing anyone should do to sack the manager...where do you think NUFC would have finished up in 1992 if they had continued with Ardiles instead of bringing KK in ? They would have ended up

in Div 3. that's where..we CANNOT afford relegation again.

There is no purpose in firing the manager if you can't get someone better - but if you can, then you should - not only that, but as a director/owner, it is your DUTY to do just that.

 

You are living in fantasy land - if Hughton cannot be replaced by a better manager, then he should stay ; if he gets the club relegated, then we might all as well go home because the message is that nobody better will take on the job. That also applies if Ashley intends to stay as owner and not invest, even if a new guy was appointed. Yes, Hughton has had his hands tied on transfers but those were the terms on which he accepted the job ; failure to win crucial home games against potential fellow strugglers will get him the sack...end of story.

[Guest Stephen927]

The situation now is a hell of a lot different than it was when Ardiles was boss. We're not in a position to offer anybody the kind of money Keegan was given to spend, and everybody else is spending that kind of money too.

[Bad Mongo]

We haven't had a single injury crisis under Hughton so far. That's quite remarkable. Either he does something right, or he just needed me to jinx it for him.

[Yorkie]

The home form has got me scared shitless.

 

With the players we've got, there's no wonder we're better away from home. Pack the midfield with a bunch of terriers, stifle the opposition, pop up with a fleeting attack. We're not blessed with great footballers in the middle of the park, but there's bags of stamina there - and that suits the away game. Fortunately, we've been taking our chances away from SJP n'all - which is a nice change. That could change any minute, given our lack of firepower, but we're doing okay so far. Bollocks refereeing aside, it was only a touch of genuine quality that saw us get beat at Man City... that'll just happen at them places. We played well as a team and it'll probably continue if we play the same system.

 

It's just another kettle of fish at home, though - the system just won't work. It's not a set-up that'll probe and press in this league - we don't have anything like the flair or attacking prowess. Hughton's made some gash decisions with regards to substitutions... but simply being a well-drilled bunch of battlers (can't knock anyone's attitude) isn't enough to take teams apart on our own turf. Revert to 4-4-2, absolutely, but then you're left with limited players to fill the void - ie Lovenkrands.

 

The quality in the squad, from an attacking point of view, is rubbish - and that's why we're not winning games at home. Hughton's mad bad decisions here and there, but it's merely emphasised by the fact he's got s***-all to work with. If we go down, it'll be primarily down to Mike Ashley and Nigel De Jong, not Hughton. The last thing i would do is sack the guy. Last thing.

 

It is NOT the last thing anyone should do to sack the manager...where do you think NUFC would have finished up in 1992 if they had continued with Ardiles instead of bringing KK in ? They would have ended up

in Div 3. that's where..we CANNOT afford relegation again.

There is no purpose in firing the manager if you can't get someone better - but if you can, then you should - not only that, but as a director/owner, it is your DUTY to do just that.

 

You are living in fantasy land - if Hughton cannot be replaced by a better manager, then he should stay ; if he gets the club relegated, then we might all as well go home because the message is that nobody better will take on the job. That also applies if Ashley intends to stay as owner and not invest, even if a new guy was appointed. Yes, Hughton has had his hands tied on transfers but those were the terms on which he accepted the job ; failure to win crucial home games against potential fellow strugglers will get him the sack...end of story.

 

I'm speaking on the basis that he wouldn't be. Sacking Hughton is absolute worst case scenario. If we're bottom at Christmas we should probably consider it.

[Guest spike]

The home form has got me scared shitless.

 

With the players we've got, there's no wonder we're better away from home. Pack the midfield with a bunch of terriers, stifle the opposition, pop up with a fleeting attack. We're not blessed with great footballers in the middle of the park, but there's bags of stamina there - and that suits the away game. Fortunately, we've been taking our chances away from SJP n'all - which is a nice change. That could change any minute, given our lack of firepower, but we're doing okay so far. Bollocks refereeing aside, it was only a touch of genuine quality that saw us get beat at Man City... that'll just happen at them places. We played well as a team and it'll probably continue if we play the same system.

 

It's just another kettle of fish at home, though - the system just won't work. It's not a set-up that'll probe and press in this league - we don't have anything like the flair or attacking prowess. Hughton's made some gash decisions with regards to substitutions... but simply being a well-drilled bunch of battlers (can't knock anyone's attitude) isn't enough to take teams apart on our own turf. Revert to 4-4-2, absolutely, but then you're left with limited players to fill the void - ie Lovenkrands.

 

The quality in the squad, from an attacking point of view, is rubbish - and that's why we're not winning games at home. Hughton's mad bad decisions here and there, but it's merely emphasised by the fact he's got s***-all to work with. If we go down, it'll be primarily down to Mike Ashley and Nigel De Jong, not Hughton. The last thing i would do is sack the guy. Last thing.

 

It is NOT the last thing anyone should do to sack the manager...where do you think NUFC would have finished up in 1992 if they had continued with Ardiles instead of bringing KK in ? They would have ended up

in Div 3. that's where..we CANNOT afford relegation again.

There is no purpose in firing the manager if you can't get someone better - but if you can, then you should - not only that, but as a director/owner, it is your DUTY to do just that.

 

You are living in fantasy land - if Hughton cannot be replaced by a better manager, then he should stay ; if he gets the club relegated, then we might all as well go home because the message is that nobody better will take on the job. That also applies if Ashley intends to stay as owner and not invest, even if a new guy was appointed. Yes, Hughton has had his hands tied on transfers but those were the terms on which he accepted the job ; failure to win crucial home games against potential fellow strugglers will get him the sack...end of story.

 

is sacking a manager a handful of games into the season bad timing though

[steve_69]

The home form has got me scared shitless.

 

With the players we've got, there's no wonder we're better away from home. Pack the midfield with a bunch of terriers, stifle the opposition, pop up with a fleeting attack. We're not blessed with great footballers in the middle of the park, but there's bags of stamina there - and that suits the away game. Fortunately, we've been taking our chances away from SJP n'all - which is a nice change. That could change any minute, given our lack of firepower, but we're doing okay so far. Bollocks refereeing aside, it was only a touch of genuine quality that saw us get beat at Man City... that'll just happen at them places. We played well as a team and it'll probably continue if we play the same system.

 

It's just another kettle of fish at home, though - the system just won't work. It's not a set-up that'll probe and press in this league - we don't have anything like the flair or attacking prowess. Hughton's made some gash decisions with regards to substitutions... but simply being a well-drilled bunch of battlers (can't knock anyone's attitude) isn't enough to take teams apart on our own turf. Revert to 4-4-2, absolutely, but then you're left with limited players to fill the void - ie Lovenkrands.

 

The quality in the squad, from an attacking point of view, is rubbish - and that's why we're not winning games at home. Hughton's mad bad decisions here and there, but it's merely emphasised by the fact he's got s***-all to work with. If we go down, it'll be primarily down to Mike Ashley and Nigel De Jong, not Hughton. The last thing i would do is sack the guy. Last thing.

 

It is NOT the last thing anyone should do to sack the manager...where do you think NUFC would have finished up in 1992 if they had continued with Ardiles instead of bringing KK in ? They would have ended up

in Div 3. that's where..we CANNOT afford relegation again.

There is no purpose in firing the manager if you can't get someone better - but if you can, then you should - not only that, but as a director/owner, it is your DUTY to do just that.

 

You are living in fantasy land - if Hughton cannot be replaced by a better manager, then he should stay ; if he gets the club relegated, then we might all as well go home because the message is that nobody better will take on the job. That also applies if Ashley intends to stay as owner and not invest, even if a new guy was appointed. Yes, Hughton has had his hands tied on transfers but those were the terms on which he accepted the job ; failure to win crucial home games against potential fellow strugglers will get him the sack...end of story.

 

is sacking a manager a handful of games into the season bad timing though

 

If you're top of the league and playing well, yes. If you're bottom of the league and playing shit, no.

we're somewhere in the middle at the moment

[Doctor Zaius]

Lets be honest here, if Hughton was to be sacked it would be a nighmare as I dont think anyone of repute would want to work for Ashley, he offers peanuts wages and wont invest in the squad. It would be either be someone of Kinnear's ilk, or going cap in hand forlornly back for Shearer and quite frankly both of those options are no better than CH.

 

 

 

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Jol and O'Neil :lol:

 

If we are to sack Hughton at somepoint this season we'll be attracting managers of Joe Kinnears calibre. At a push, maybe Phil Brown. Anyone who thinks otherwise is moronic.

 

Anyone who thinks we should keep Hughton just because changing manager isn't good is moronic.

 

Putting Hughton aside for a minute, whether it's June 12th or January 1st, if it manager isn't right for a job then the owner should sack him - this 'oh we never keep a manager' stuff is bollocks. I'd rather change manager three times in a season then go down the wrong path with one guy who isn't good enough. 

 

Ok then, who'd you replace him with if it came to that?

 

It's not just a case of 'the manager isnt good enough, the manager is out of his depth so we'll sack him' You've got to think about the next step; replacements and weather those replacements would be out of their depth and woul they do a better job than wat Hughton's doing. I'm pretty much sure whatever goon ashley was to replace him with, would be even worse.

 

(oh and all this talk about Jol and O'Neil? f***ing laughable. As if they'd ever consider workng under Ashley man)

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Would anyone else stop attending games if Phil Brown was appointed manager? 

[jdckelly]

Would anyone else stop attending games if Phil Brown was appointed manager? 

dont even mention his name

come one and all we believe in hughton (well more than id believe in brown or jfk)

[steve_69]

Would anyone else stop attending games if Phil Brown was appointed manager? 

 

'''Shudder'''

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

We should go all Press Gang and make little 'I Believe in Hugh' pin badges to wear with pride.

[Doctor Zaius]

Would anyone else stop attending games if Phil Brown was appointed manager? 

 

If hughton was to go tomorrow that orange cunt would be n the running like.

[Parky]

The thing is if we're struggling in Dec, MA will sack Ashley and then we can start worrying about the replacement. I don't think MA wants another relegation, it's just that last time he didn't honestly understand the PL that well and probably couldn't imagine us going down till it was too late. We might not have invested that much in the summer, but the transfers/loans were good and better than I expected, things are moving back in the right direction reg the squad.

[Flip]

Ashley will sack himself?

[steve_69]

Ashley will sack himself?

 

Fingers crossed

[Parky]

Ashley will sack himself?

 

Freudian slip hee hee..

[Doctor Zaius]

The thing is if we're struggling in Dec, MA will sack Ashley and then we can start worrying about the replacement. I don't think MA wants another relegation, it's just that last time he didn't honestly understand the PL that well and probably couldn't imagine us going down till it was too late. We might not have invested that much in the summer, but the transfers/loans were good and better than I expected, things are moving back in the right direction reg the squad.

 

Ah aye, I'm sure that one will work out fantastically well like. Jesus christ.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Shola has to play full-stop.

 

Never thought I'd hear this in my lifetime