Guest MrSundlofer Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Carlos Vela (Arsenal) and Giovani dos Santos (Tottenham) on loan for next season? I would be excited! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Colo will struggle this coming season, being left flat footed will be his downfall. The strikers in the prem are one hundred times what we have been up against in the Championship. Look at our strikeforce, by premiership standards it's very poor and we have a huge goals for in this division... Agree - the standard of CCC striker has been the worst feature of the league and our defence will face a culture shock when they come up against many of the PL strikers - they are much better, with both pace and movement a world apart. Coloccini struggled against that last season and will do so again - his best hope would be to be the sweeper in a five man back line because his skill on the ball is good and he would be less physically exposed...problem is that our midfield or forwards would then be swamped because we would be a man short in the middle. The Italians used to play that way in the 70s, but the days of catenaccio are long gone. You have to be able to snatch a goal and defend it for 80 mins if necessary and apart from the fact that our defence wouldn't be able to do that, getting goals is going to be a real problem unless we sign a top striker.The rules of the game have also changed, making it difficult for defenders to play cynically as the Italians used to do. Again this is a myth. People think of the PL and in their minds it's like playing Drogba and Torres every week. Elmander? Fagan? Sidibe? Jason Roberts? There aren't *that* many premiership-quality strikers in the premiership. You'll see just how much of 'a myth' this is when the season starts ! Would you class, say Yakubu as a top Prem striker because I wouldn't, yet I bet he will bully Colo to death if they play against each other. timeEd32 has it spot on - I think you have a short memory if you think Colo only struggled against the likes of Drogba lasr season. He MAY be better in an improved back 4 but we are NOT going to get that and I stick by what I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 The trouble last season with Colo is he had a shit midfield in front of him, I personally think that if we get two decent mid fielders next season we will see Colo in a much brighter light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 We all seem to be forgetting that we were an absolute fucking shables on the pitch last season. No direction, no organisation, no heart and a lot of players who simply didn't give a fuck. Wolves, Birmingham, Burnley (at the start of the season), Stoke etc have all shown that you can get results in the Premier League, without ruining yourself financially, if you are well organised and resolute. And those happen to be the two biggest attributes we've shown all season. 10 goals conceded at home all season doesn't happen by accident. My doubts about Colo still exist because of the regularity with which he was shown up last season but if we continue to defend as a team he won't be exposed so often. IMO we need the following players: Proven premier league CB Creative midfielder First choice right back Backup left back Proven top level striker (not necessarily proven in the Premier League) At least one proven winger I reckon we can pick up half of these on free transfers so whatever budget we have can be used on 2-3 quality additions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yakubu's goal record in the Premier League is up there with the best, Merlin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'd sell Coloccini to raise the funds and lower the wages. Look away from the overpriced british players. Lets get the most out of this budget by looking in nordic leagues, bundesliga and France. There are some awesome talent in bundesliga that we should be looking at. Schalke is playing good football and the young Höwedes has been really good at centre back. Rakitic has impressed in midfield and has also toughend up. Gojko Kacar has had a terrible season in Hertha but he is still young and very promising and exactly what we need for our midfield. Could be a steal. Zidan would be interesting to see aswell. From Sweden I'd go for IFK Gothenburgs icelandic centre back Ragnar Sigurdsson. A quality player that we would possibly get on the cheap 1-2 mil. Norway - Huseklepp and Annan would be very interesting signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 As for worrying about Colo, he's dealt with equally good strikers at international level (by all accounts he was very good at right-back against Spain this season) and in La Liga. I'm happy to put season one down to bedding in and simply poor form and give him a clean slate as far as the Premier League's concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Maybe use Colo as right back would be better for the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Lee Camp Robbie Keane / Yakubu / Macheda (Loan) / Fletcher / Piquionne / Sturridge (loan) Michael Johnson / Cleverly (Loan) / Wilshere (Loan) / Bullard / Eagles / O'harra / Keven-Prince Boateng / SWP Luke Young / Hutton / Fox (backup) / Gunter / Bouma (backup) / Shorey / Beye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Macheda (Loan) / Fletcher / Sturridge (loan) Cleverly (Loan) / Wilshere (Loan) / Eagles / O'hara / Keven-Prince Boateng / Hutton / Fox (backup) Dont think id go near the rest tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Considering our transfer policy is to sign players under the age of 26 with a potential profitable resale value, i don't think the club would either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Considering our transfer policy is to sign players under the age of 26 with a potential profitable resale value, i don't think the club would either. True, most the options i deleted are more than a little suspect in terms of wages/fitness anyway. That and plain madness thinking they would come too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well we could probably get Fletcher, Scharner and larsson for a combined £3m. Sell shola, Smith, best and one of Nolan or Barton and we are possibly left with £30m to sign 3 midfielders a forward and a defender. That should be enough for the first season back and we could loan out a few of the youngsters (ranger, kadar, vuckic, lua lua. ..... I don't think it's that far fetched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 *based on this £25m budget being true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well we could probably get Fletcher, Scharner and larsson for a combined £3m. Sell shola, Smith, best and one of Nolan or Barton and we are possibly left with £30m to sign 3 midfielders a forward and a defender. That should be enough for the first season back and we could loan out a few of the youngsters (ranger, kadar, vuckic, lua lua. ..... I don't think it's that far fetched. Hopefully we could get a couple of million for Xisco as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Forgot about him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Forgot about him Easily done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Wouldn't sell Shola personally. He's had a lot more Premiership experience than the other strikers. Even if he is shit, everyone else could prove to be shitter at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Considering our transfer policy is to sign players under the age of 26 with a potential profitable resale value, i don't think the club would either. True, most the options i deleted are more than a little suspect in terms of wages/fitness anyway. That and plain madness thinking they would come too Which ones? Perhaps Yakubu and SWP are a tad step too far, but I can see the rest being realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Considering our transfer policy is to sign players under the age of 26 with a potential profitable resale value, i don't think the club would either. True, most the options i deleted are more than a little suspect in terms of wages/fitness anyway. That and plain madness thinking they would come too Which ones? Perhaps Yakubu and SWP are a tad step too far, but I can see the rest being realistic. They were the two, feel Keane as well due to halving his wages, Beye i would like to think has the decency never to come back even if we stupidly asked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Is Albert Riera realistic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 As for worrying about Colo, he's dealt with equally good strikers at international level (by all accounts he was very good at right-back against Spain this season) and in La Liga. I'm happy to put season one down to bedding in and simply poor form and give him a clean slate as far as the Premier League's concerned. Exactly. Anyone see his masterclass on Iniesta? Not a powerful striker but a quick, extremely tricky and supremely intelligent footballer. Colo has never ever had problems dealing with sheer pace, it's the power/pace combo where he struggled. But it's not like that was even exposed that often by those particular attributes. Someone tell me in which games was he obviously physically pummelled and it led to a goal? I can think of the Stoke game where Fuller turned him but any others? The only oher terrible game Colo had was against Liverpool where he was outdone by some poor positional sense which was probably down to his naivety of the English game. Colo's main flaw last season was his apparent lack of heart, he seemed to give up on causes that weren't necessarily lost and he just didn't seem motivated to do well. Next season should see that dispelled though, he could have generally fallen for the club now a la Enrique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Kevin Prince Boateng apparently available for £5 million. It would be rude not to at that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Kevin Prince Boateng apparently available for £5 million. It would be rude not to at that price. We should go for his half-brother Jerome Boateng of Hamburg. Very quick defender and can play as a right back as well as centre back. Kevin Prince Boateng seems more realistic, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 As for worrying about Colo, he's dealt with equally good strikers at international level (by all accounts he was very good at right-back against Spain this season) and in La Liga. I'm happy to put season one down to bedding in and simply poor form and give him a clean slate as far as the Premier League's concerned. Exactly. Anyone see his masterclass on Iniesta? Not a powerful striker but a quick, extremely tricky and supremely intelligent footballer. Colo has never ever had problems dealing with sheer pace, it's the power/pace combo where he struggled. But it's not like that was even exposed that often by those particular attributes. Someone tell me in which games was he obviously physically pummelled and it led to a goal? I can think of the Stoke game where Fuller turned him but any others? The only oher terrible game Colo had was against Liverpool where he was outdone by some poor positional sense which was probably down to his naivety of the English game. Colo's main flaw last season was his apparent lack of heart, he seemed to give up on causes that weren't necessarily lost and he just didn't seem motivated to do well. Next season should see that dispelled though, he could have generally fallen for the club now a la Enrique. Yeah, agreed. Think Colo is a classy defender who just needs to be partnered with someone who is a bit more of a brute. Actually, I didn't see too much of him before he came to Newcastle, but understand he's a pretty decent defensive midfielder also. Could this be another posssibility for us next season? Considering we actually have no defensive midfielders at the moment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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