Hanshithispantz Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 The English effect means we could get a player Why the f*** would we want to cater to Defoe's style though? He's a small striker, in both size and style, he offers no work rate, or physical presense that could help us up top. All he has is decent strike and a turn of pace which has netted him a slightly above average goal record. Absolutely useless signing for the price he would cost us. Because he'll return that with a haul of goals? He's done it all his career, I really don't know what standard of striker people are expecting us to sign to be honest, given the response to Defoe being linked. Jermain Defoe? A haul of goals? All his career? Jesus f***ing wept. Oh the hilarity 178 goals in 431 apps. Pathetic record. 100 goals in 307 premiership apearances, an absolute haul of goals mate, a haul of goals! Or maybe... it's not spectacular and it's not awful. Just a wild thought. It's not a "haul of goals", which is what i'm saying. Just to clarify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's quick, direct and scores goals. For that purpose he'd be a massive improvement on our strikeforce, but he has a number of limitations. Selfish, not a great player in the build up, not a physical presence, doesn't get into good positions as much as he should and most worryingly is off the back of a very bad season. Negatives easily out-weigh the positives, on top of his age and what we'll have to spend on him, there's no reason to go for him unless we're desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit and he's fucking shit. Fucking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's quick, direct and scores goals. For that purpose he'd be a massive improvement on our strikeforce, but he has a number of limitations. Selfish, not a great player in the build up, not a physical presence, doesn't get into good positions as much as he should and most worryingly is off the back of a very bad season. It wouldn't be a very good signing unless we got him for less than about £7m and played him every single week. It's not going to happen anyway, fuck knows why anyone is talking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's quick, direct and scores goals. For that purpose he'd be a massive improvement on our strikeforce, but he has a number of limitations. Selfish, not a great player in the build up, not a physical presence, doesn't get into good positions as much as he should and most worryingly is off the back of a very bad season. Defoe is better than what we have so signing him would give us at least three years of a striker far better than what we have. Yes he has flaws, but you could list twice as many for all our current strikers. It's all about improving each year, it's not a matter of signing the best in the world each year. And some seem to find it hard accepting somewhere in between but further on than what we got. Not you though sir from what I've read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's quick, direct and scores goals. For that purpose he'd be a massive improvement on our strikeforce, but he has a number of limitations. Selfish, not a great player in the build up, not a physical presence, doesn't get into good positions as much as he should and most worryingly is off the back of a very bad season. It wouldn't be a very good signing unless we got him for less than about £7m and played him every single week. It's not going to happen anyway, fuck knows why anyone is talking about it. Think it would be a very feesible signing tbh, apart from the fact English + 28 doesn't really fit our transfer policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Why the f*** would we want to cater to Defoe's style though? He's a small striker, in both size and style, he offers no work rate, or physical presense that could help us up top. All he has is decent strike and a turn of pace which has netted him a slightly above average goal record. Absolutely useless signing for the price he would cost us. Because he'll return that with a haul of goals? He's done it all his career, I really don't know what standard of striker people are expecting us to sign to be honest, given the response to Defoe being linked. Jermain Defoe? A haul of goals? All his career? Jesus f***ing wept. Oh the hilarity 178 goals in 431 apps. Pathetic record. 100 goals in 307 premiership apearances, an absolute haul of goals mate, a haul of goals! Who would you sign who is better? It's not a question of just 'who is better', it's a question of who better fits into our playing style, and who wouldn't cost us absurd money for what we get in return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He would have no resale value whatsoever, it's a no go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 In what world is one in three s****? Aye, I did say it was shit like, didn't I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I'd take Defoe, but I doubt Tottenham would sell him for a reasonable price. Plus due to his age and the potential wages he would command, I can see this being a total non-starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's quick, direct and scores goals. For that purpose he'd be a massive improvement on our strikeforce, but he has a number of limitations. Selfish, not a great player in the build up, not a physical presence, doesn't get into good positions as much as he should and most worryingly is off the back of a very bad season. It wouldn't be a very good signing unless we got him for less than about £7m and played him every single week. It's not going to happen anyway, fuck knows why anyone is talking about it. This. The source is terrible, and it doesn't even make sense if what we're told on scouting is true (looking for foreign talent, only buying relatively young players, etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Defoe would improve us greatly, only the fee, his age, his form and his wages are a problem. I'd rather take a chance on someone younger, keep to the plan we apparently have, but if we went for him it wouldn't be the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Defoe is a good finisher, inside and outside the box. For that, he needs to play right up on the last defenders, but at the same time, like Owen, he's not great at holding the ball up. That kind of striker isn't so much in favour at the top level any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Why the f*** would we want to cater to Defoe's style though? He's a small striker, in both size and style, he offers no work rate, or physical presense that could help us up top. All he has is decent strike and a turn of pace which has netted him a slightly above average goal record. Absolutely useless signing for the price he would cost us. Because he'll return that with a haul of goals? He's done it all his career, I really don't know what standard of striker people are expecting us to sign to be honest, given the response to Defoe being linked. Jermain Defoe? A haul of goals? All his career? Jesus f***ing wept. Oh the hilarity 178 goals in 431 apps. Pathetic record. 100 goals in 307 premiership apearances, an absolute haul of goals mate, a haul of goals! Who would you sign who is better? It's not a question of just 'who is better', it's a question of who better fits into our playing style, and who wouldn't cost us absurd money for what we get in return. Fine, who "better fits into our playing style, and who wouldn't cost us absurd money for what we get in return"? Perhaps you will answer the question if I ask you you're own question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Defoe is a good finisher, inside and outside the box. For that, he needs to play right up on the last defenders, but at the same time, like Owen, he's not great at holding the ball up. That kind of striker isn't so much in favour at the top level any more. Top four you mean? or Premiership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Defoe would improve us greatly, only the fee, his age, his form and his wages are a problem. I'd rather take a chance on someone younger, keep to the plan we apparently have, but if we went for him it wouldn't be the end of the world. Good post sir, I feel the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Defoe is a good finisher, inside and outside the box. For that, he needs to play right up on the last defenders, but at the same time, like Owen, he's not great at holding the ball up. That kind of striker isn't so much in favour at the top level any more. Top four you mean? or Premiership? Erm.. Hernandez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 In what world is one in three s****? Aye, I did say it was shit like, didn't I. Aye, I did say you did, didn't I. Just the general consensus some are portraying. Defoe has generally been a very good goalscorer for club and country, to say otherwise is mental IMO. Yeah, he's not Shearer (1 in 2) or Messi/Ronaldo/Torres/Drogba (1 in 1) but there tends to be a very small bunch of fantastic strikers and a very large bunch of mediocre strikers. Defoe is neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 In what world is one in three s****? Exactly. There's not a great number of players got more than 13 this season, and he's pretty much averaged around that level of scoring throughout his career (last season apart). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Defoe is a good finisher, inside and outside the box. For that, he needs to play right up on the last defenders, but at the same time, like Owen, he's not great at holding the ball up. That kind of striker isn't so much in favour at the top level any more. Top four you mean? or Premiership? Erm.. Hernandez? Done very well hasn't he. And making Rooney look a million times better. £6m was it? what a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 In what world is one in three s****? Aye, I did say it was shit like, didn't I. Aye, I did say you did, didn't I. Just the general consensus some are portraying. Defoe has generally been a very good goalscorer for club and country, to say otherwise is mental IMO. Yeah, he's not Shearer (1 in 2) or Messi/Ronaldo/Torres/Drogba (1 in 1) but there tends to be a very small bunch of fantastic strikers and a very large bunch of mediocre strikers. Defoe is neither. Very true sir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Have always thought Defoe was a good player, though his form this season has been piss poor, whether that's because Spurs changed their style of play because VDV arrived, and just played with one up top, or whether it signals the start ofa decline I'm not sure. Probably both, I reckon. Either way, if I had to nail my colours to the mast I'd be disappointed if he was one of the two strikers we're allegedly buying this summer. For the money he'd be asking for I would think there are better options elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I don't think it's a case of Ow*n/Defoe/Hernandez type players becoming obsolete but more because for whatever reason there are fewer of them being produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 In what world is one in three s****? Aye, I did say it was shit like, didn't I. Aye, I did say you did, didn't I. Just the general consensus some are portraying. Defoe has generally been a very good goalscorer for club and country, to say otherwise is mental IMO. Yeah, he's not Shearer (1 in 2) or Messi/Ronaldo/Torres/Drogba (1 in 1) but there tends to be a very small bunch of fantastic strikers and a very large bunch of mediocre strikers. Defoe is neither. Very true sir. Nah, middle ground doesn't exist. Either someone is wonderful or they're shit. Since Defoe isn't great, he's automatically shit and you, a team consistently playing Shola Ameobi and Peter Lovenkrands, should stay well away. Of course, it's not that realistic Spurs would sell for a reasonable fee (under £8m) and it remains to be seen what wages he'd ask for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Have always thought Defoe was a good player, though his form this season has been piss poor, whether that's because Spurs changed their style of play because VDV arrived, and just played with one up top, or whether it signals the start ofa decline I'm not sure. Probably both, I reckon. Either way, if I had to nail my colours to the mast I'd be disappointed if he was one of the two strikers we're allegedly buying this summer. For the money he'd be asking for I would think there are better options elsewhere. Love the avatar once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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