Segun Oluwaniyi Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Imagine a front 6 of N'Zogbia, Tiote, Nolan, Ben Arfa, Gervinho and Gameiro man. Imagine a NUFC without Nolan and Barton. Zog, Ben Arfa, Gervinho, Gameiro - as talented as they might be, they aren't as important as those two. If we sign them, they would be much more important. Nolan and Barton are only important because we don't have better players in their positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Imagine a front 6 of N'Zogbia, Tiote, Nolan, Ben Arfa, Gervinho and Gameiro man. Imagine a NUFC without Nolan and Barton. Zog, Ben Arfa, Gervinho, Gameiro - as talented as they might be, they aren't as important as those two. If we sign them, they would be much more important. Nolan and Barton are only important because we don't have better players in their positions. No, they're more important because they aren't like Zog, like Ben Arfa, like Gervinho, like Gameiro (and also like Owen and Martins in the past) who would just fuck off and stop caring if things aren't going right - they'll try to put things right because they do care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. But they weren't wanted. The same goes for Colo and Enrique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. It's not a question of loyalty, it's a matter of commitment to the cause. A team with no heart and soul is no team at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Imagine a front 6 of N'Zogbia, Tiote, Nolan, Ben Arfa, Gervinho and Gameiro man. See identical post circa 2005 Imagine a front 6 of Luque, Emre, Parker, Solano, Owen and Shearer man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Bump and a half that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 So we can expect another one in 2017 then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. But they weren't wanted. The same goes for Colo and Enrique. Doesn't matter, though. All that does matter is that they have been here through that season in the CCC. That has made them a team (or that 'group of lads') and thats why we shouldn't sell anyone (or not renew the contract of anyone) that is still capable of playing for another few years at top level and has been here through that CCC season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Bump and a half that like. You didn't actually say that to the best of my knowledge, I'm just indicating what was said at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ah right was going to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. The uncomfortable truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. The uncomfortable truth. Completely irrelevant to the original point however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. But they weren't wanted. The same goes for Colo and Enrique. Doesn't matter, though. All that does matter is that they have been here through that season in the CCC. That has made them a team (or that 'group of lads') and thats why we shouldn't sell anyone (or not renew the contract of anyone) that is still capable of playing for another few years at top level and has been here through that CCC season. You pay what players are worth. No matter how good a group of lads that isn't going to win them a CL spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. But they weren't wanted. The same goes for Colo and Enrique. Doesn't matter, though. All that does matter is that they have been here through that season in the CCC. That has made them a team (or that 'group of lads') and thats why we shouldn't sell anyone (or not renew the contract of anyone) that is still capable of playing for another few years at top level and has been here through that CCC season. You pay what players are worth. No matter how good a group of lads that isn't going to win them a CL spot. until they're worth more than you fancy paying them, then you sell them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. But they weren't wanted. The same goes for Colo and Enrique. Doesn't matter, though. All that does matter is that they have been here through that season in the CCC. That has made them a team (or that 'group of lads') and thats why we shouldn't sell anyone (or not renew the contract of anyone) that is still capable of playing for another few years at top level and has been here through that CCC season. You pay what players are worth. No matter how good a group of lads that isn't going to win them a CL spot. until they're worth more than you fancy paying them, then you sell them Barton's not being sold, he's just not going to get a 4 year contract. Nolan's in new contract talks even though he's still got 2 years left on his current one. I don't see how that translates as either player being turfed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Don't know if this have been posted earlier today. There have been a number of enquiries from clubs across Europe, including Newcastle United, but there have so far been no bids matching Liverpool's valuation. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/05/27/liverpool-fc-put-8m-price-tag-on-striker-david-ngog-100252-28775454 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Don't know if this have been posted earlier today. There have been a number of enquiries from clubs across Europe, including Newcastle United, but there have so far been no bids matching Liverpool's valuation. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/05/27/liverpool-fc-put-8m-price-tag-on-striker-david-ngog-100252-28775454 £8m?! max 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddles mullet Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 According to our information, Newcastle made these days a new offer to transfer to Toulouse to engage the services of Sheikh M'Bengue. This would amount to 6 million. For now, Toulouse has still not made a decision regarding a sale of its left side. Marseille, Lille and Lyon also follow M'Bengue. But they have not moved in a concrete way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Players with options leave. Is there any player that actually denied a chance to move when we were relegated? The ones that were pursued are no longer here. People are loyal when they are without choice. Keep perpetuating this stupid myth, though. Every player would have went after relegation if a decent chance would have been there. Joey and Nolan as well. But they weren't wanted. The same goes for Colo and Enrique. Doesn't matter, though. All that does matter is that they have been here through that season in the CCC. That has made them a team (or that 'group of lads') and thats why we shouldn't sell anyone (or not renew the contract of anyone) that is still capable of playing for another few years at top level and has been here through that CCC season. You pay what players are worth. No matter how good a group of lads that isn't going to win them a CL spot. until they're worth more than you fancy paying them, then you sell them Barton's not being sold, he's just not going to get a 4 year contract. Nolan's in new contract talks even though he's still got 2 years left on his current one. I don't see how that translates as either player being turfed out. Regardless of rumours or speculation, the facts since Carroll left are... Tiote signed a contract until June 2017. Newcastle survived relegation and finished comfortable mid-table. Ferguson signed a contract until June 2016. Barton & Enrique are Newcastle players until at least June 2012. Nolan is a Newcastle player until June 2013. Until the latter changes (if at all), we're still going in the right direction imo for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Nut, im generally optimistic too but even I have to admit there's some heavy spin on that. Forgive mentor not wetting my pants in excitement of a young lad signing a long term deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Pinch of salt time, and a possible moment... cwarr07 Colin #nufc officials flew to France today after permission was given to speak to Cheikh M'Bengue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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