Smal Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Two defensive midfielders is ideal for playing a quick counter attacking style 4-2-3-1. See the Dutch's football in Euro 2008. It does however mean you have to have an attacking midfielder (Sneijder in Holland's case). None of Tioté, Cabaye or Matuidi really fit that role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Much rather keep Best than have that twat here. Not even instead of Stroller? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Two defensive midfielders is ideal for playing a quick counter attacking style 4-2-3-1. See the Dutch's football in Euro 2008. It does however mean you have to have an attacking midfielder (Sneijder in Holland's case). None of Tioté, Cabaye or Matuidi really fit that role Ben Arfa will roam around picking up the ball from the middle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Does anyone actually know whether Barnetta is any good? I've seen his name banded about in the past but that counts for nothing. I think (although I haven't seen him on a regular basis for a couple of years) he'd be perfect in the Premier League. He's pretty much a jack of all trades - master of none. Reasonably fast, good delivery, can come inside, good shot on him and has a very good attitude/work rate on the pitch. I wouldn't say he's as good as N'Zogbia (but it's difficult to compare obviously) but I'd rate him slightly better than Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Does anyone actually know whether Barnetta is any good? I've seen his name banded about in the past but that counts for nothing. Shocking on Fifa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 What I really like about that midfield trio of cabaye, tiote and matuidi, is all the variety it offers. Tiote got the speed to force his way past oponents, they all can sit back. Cabaye spreading around neat passes to both flanks. Just the joy of football right there, a dynamic side with a trio capable of defence and offense at the same time got real fire power up top! Want another good striker though and matuidi now! gogo buy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Two defensive midfielders is ideal for playing a quick counter attacking style 4-2-3-1. See the Dutch's football in Euro 2008. It does however mean you have to have an attacking midfielder (Sneijder in Holland's case). None of Tioté, Cabaye or Matuidi really fit that role Ben Arfa will roam around picking up the ball from the middle Absolutley... Cabaye Tiote | Barnetta Arfa Marveaux | Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 A Tiote-Matuidi double pivot would be interesting....our 'invisible wall'. Teams tend to us double pivots so their full backs can bomb forward but I don't see ours being effective at it. I'm very intrigued by this new playing style thats in the pipeline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Does anyone actually know whether Barnetta is any good? I've seen his name banded about in the past but that counts for nothing. I think (although I haven't seen him on a regular basis for a couple of years) he'd be perfect in the Premier League. He's pretty much a jack of all trades - master of none. Reasonably fast, good delivery, can come inside, good shot on him and has a very good attitude/work rate on the pitch. I wouldn't say he's as good as N'Zogbia (but it's difficult to compare obviously) but I'd rate him significantly better than Barton. ...in the offensive role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Does anyone actually know whether Barnetta is any good? I've seen his name banded about in the past but that counts for nothing. I think (although I haven't seen him on a regular basis for a couple of years) he'd be perfect in the Premier League. He's pretty much a jack of all trades - master of none. Reasonably fast, good delivery, can come inside, good shot on him and has a very good attitude/work rate on the pitch. I wouldn't say he's as good as N'Zogbia (but it's difficult to compare obviously) but I'd rate him slightly better than Barton. I suspect he's probably more mobile than Barton, part of why we want him for the alledged new playing style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Barnetta's got more in him than Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 N'Zogbia's a much better dribbler of the ball, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 'Tiote Cabaye Matuidi' is quite a short midfiled 3 tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 'Tiote Cabaye Matuidi' is quite a short midfiled 3 tbh Size is overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I'd agree, if we we're Barcelona (and even they have Busquets). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Not sure what you're laughing at. N'Zogbia has never proved himself to be a disruptive influence within a stable dressing room. That's not what I said. Read it again, slowly. That's exactly what you said. If you're going to make stupid points, do try to remember them before projecting your ignorance onto other people. There's nothing to substantiate that rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I'd agree, if we we're Barcelona (and even they have Busquets). We don't need big guys in midfield man. Those 3 are all technically gifted and very good physically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Tiote Matuidi Cabaye f***ing defensive like. Like Ronaldo (I think it was) said on here a few weeks ago, there is a lot to be said for playing with 2 defensive midfielders. Especially in away games. Aye. You've only got to look what playing the likes of Jonas (who contributes a hell of a lot defensively) and Tiote did for us at The Emirates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Read a stat before that apparently Matuidi makes more tackles than anybody else in Ligue 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 No team's gonna get through us this season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Not sure what you're laughing at. N'Zogbia has never proved himself to be a disruptive influence within a stable dressing room. That's not what I said. Read it again, slowly. That's exactly what you said. If you're going to make stupid points, do try to remember them before projecting your ignorance onto other people. There's nothing to substantiate that rubbish. Good grief. What I said was: 1. "I thought that N'Zogbia's attitude stank during his last spell at the club" In his last six months as a Newcastle player, there were repeated instances of him shooting his mouth off in interviews and saying that he wanted to leave, even publicly slagging off decisions made by the management. The final straw was his public battle with Kinnear (who admittedly didn't do himself any favours). Google can assist if you cannot remember any of this. Then I said: 2. "and I'd rather take a punt on a different player than risk introducing an already proven disruptive influence" For "already proven disruptive influence", see above and my final comment below. Which was followed by: 3. "into an otherwise stable dressing-room." The operative word here is, of course, "into", denoting our current squad. Many of our current players have made public statements over the last 18 months about how close "this group of lads" is and how the team has benefited from relative stability following our relegation and subsequent promotion. I have not concocted this out of thin air. Both statements (ie N'Zogbia's disruptive influence and our current stability) are fairly well documented. As such, whilst you obviously don't agree, it's far from a stupid point. I wouldn't want any player at the club that is likely to cause tidal waves, particularly if they could, on account of their nationality and mother tongue, have an influence on our expanding French contingent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 No team's gonna get through us this season! They'll just go over the top of us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 No team's gonna get through us this season! Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini New LB [---GIGANTIC MOFO BARRIER---] Cabaye N'Zogbia Ben Arfa Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Not sure what you're laughing at. N'Zogbia has never proved himself to be a disruptive influence within a stable dressing room. That's not what I said. Read it again, slowly. That's exactly what you said. If you're going to make stupid points, do try to remember them before projecting your ignorance onto other people. There's nothing to substantiate that rubbish. R e a d i t a g a i n . S l o w l y . . Edit: I see Domokunwins has already pointed out where you've gone wrong. You should do yourself a favour and not get on your high horse with people all the time if you can't even read or properly understand what they are saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Tiote- Matudi- Cabaye does not sit too well with me, I'd imagine/ speculate that they would all sit too deep and occupy the same spaces. Now, Tiote- Cabaye- Martin.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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