TBG Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Don't forget they've probably bought some new bibs and cones for training. They don't come cheap. Extra large nets too for when Shola is on shooting practise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. There are enough bores in action posting 'jokes' like yours here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. There are enough bores in action posting 'jokes' like yours here It's known in the trade as (un)constructive witticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know whether to use this for the joke or the responses, but fair play to you all: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. There are enough bores in action posting 'jokes' like yours here Lighten up Susan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. There are enough bores in action posting 'jokes' like yours here Lighten up Susan How ironic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. There are enough bores in action posting 'jokes' like yours here Lighten up Susan How ironic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The Chronicle understands part of United’s summer kitty has been put to one side to cover Enrique’s lucrative contract should he decide to stay at St James’ Park. A slice of the money has been put to one side for new contracts for players still at the club such as Jose Enrique. From the same Lee Ryder article. Lee is to journalism what your local rapist is to consensual sex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know about you, but I am very excited about seeing the water bore in action. He has a spring in his step , thats for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think the biggest problem is people are having their expectations crushed. When Carroll was sold all we could do was console ourselves with the belief/hope that we now had £35m to play with come the summer. Now despite having made three potentially great additions to the squad we've, on the surface, not spent any money. We've been cheated! I'm certainly getting that feeling reading many of the posts - but, but, you have not spent any money!! Admittedly, as things currently stand, it looks like we will still be a bit light on quality in squad depth. Arguably we could/should complain about that. But personally I'm convinced we have a much stronger, not marginally stronger, first eleven. Two signings still to come, and personally I don't think Taylor is counted one of them but maybe he is. This keeping money for the January window is an appeasement statement no doubt about that, transparently so, and we have a right to mock it. As is the continued emphasis on the £35m as if there are no other revenue streams or income. We definitely have money available. Counting 1yr of a players (several players) salary as having come out of that Carroll money would certainly account for a fair whack of that money, but it can only be viewed as sensible or clever if in the future we are still competing where others no longer can. I can't predict the future nor am I much of an accountant or economist, but if I take the dim view that Ashley is just recouping his investment then I will be despondent, utterly despondent. So for my own sake I try and maintain a balanced view and consider the future can be brighter and rest easy for now on the fact that I can't wait to see how the new look Newcastle Utd play next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Logic, will you be utterly despondent if we continue to sign decent players who improve our squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I always find it interesting that, despite the fact that promotion to the Premiership is supposedly worth anything from £30 - £100 million to a club, you don't tend to find those clubs rushing out and spending that windfall on £10 million + players like they've just won the lottery. The way modern football finances work demands a kind of complex planning and long-term strategic thinking that is some way distant from the piggy-bank mentality of let's spend this cash that we've got lying around here doing nothing. A lot of people seem to be expecting the £35m from Carroll to be spent like that. In practice, it'll be absorbed into the longer-term financial strategy of the club. If the money is actually being taken out of the club, that's something else, but we've no evidence of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 A lot of people seem to be expecting the £35m from Carroll to be spent like that. In practice, it'll be absorbed into the longer-term financial strategy of the club. if you look back through the history of big transfers in england the (smaller) receiving club do either one of two things; (i) spend a good proportion of the fee or (ii) pocket the money waddle, beardsley & gazza are examples of (ii) any guesses where the carroll money will fall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I always find it interesting that, despite the fact that promotion to the Premiership is supposedly worth anything from £30 - £100 million to a club, you don't tend to find those clubs rushing out and spending that windfall on £10 million + players like they've just won the lottery. The way modern football finances work demands a kind of complex planning and long-term strategic thinking that is some way distant from the piggy-bank mentality of let's spend this cash that we've got lying around here doing nothing. A lot of people seem to be expecting the £35m from Carroll to be spent like that. In practice, it'll be absorbed into the longer-term financial strategy of the club. If the money is actually being taken out of the club, that's something else, but we've no evidence of that. I've been saying this weeks, it all comes off the bottom line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 A lot of people seem to be expecting the £35m from Carroll to be spent like that. In practice, it'll be absorbed into the longer-term financial strategy of the club. if you look back through the history of big transfers in england the (smaller) receiving club do either one of two things; (i) spend a good proportion of the fee or (ii) pocket the money waddle, beardsley & gazza are examples of (ii) any guesses where the carroll money will fall? What do you mean by "pocket the money" though? Just not spend it on transfers? So either the clubs spend the money or they don't spend it... hardly a revelation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 A lot of people seem to be expecting the £35m from Carroll to be spent like that. In practice, it'll be absorbed into the longer-term financial strategy of the club. if you look back through the history of big transfers in england the (smaller) receiving club do either one of two things; (i) spend a good proportion of the fee or (ii) pocket the money waddle, beardsley & gazza are examples of (ii) any guesses where the carroll money will fall? What do you mean by "pocket the money" though? Just not spend it on transfers? So either the clubs spend the money or they don't spend it... hardly a revelation. It means Ashley goes out to the casino and spends "the club's money". :frantic: :frantic: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think the biggest problem is people are having their expectations crushed. When Carroll was sold all we could do was console ourselves with the belief/hope that we now had £35m to play with come the summer. Now despite having made three potentially great additions to the squad we've, on the surface, not spent any money. We've been cheated! I'm certainly getting that feeling reading many of the posts - but, but, you have not spent any money!! Admittedly, as things currently stand, it looks like we will still be a bit light on quality in squad depth. Arguably we could/should complain about that. But personally I'm convinced we have a much stronger, not marginally stronger, first eleven. Two signings still to come, and personally I don't think Taylor is counted one of them but maybe he is. This keeping money for the January window is an appeasement statement no doubt about that, transparently so, and we have a right to mock it. As is the continued emphasis on the £35m as if there are no other revenue streams or income. We definitely have money available. Counting 1yr of a players (several players) salary as having come out of that Carroll money would certainly account for a fair whack of that money, but it can only be viewed as sensible or clever if in the future we are still competing where others no longer can. I can't predict the future nor am I much of an accountant or economist, but if I take the dim view that Ashley is just recouping his investment then I will be despondent, utterly despondent. So for my own sake I try and maintain a balanced view and consider the future can be brighter and rest easy for now on the fact that I can't wait to see how the new look Newcastle Utd play next season. Good post. What's annoying me regarding the spending of the money is not that I believe it should be spent for the sake of it, but that I believe we are in an ideal position to push on and really make an impact in the Premier League this upcoming season. We did far better than most expected this time around, to me we should be building on that rather than merely consolidating. It's not like we just scraped survival. I believe the Carroll money gives us the perfect opportunity to bring forward any plans we had for pushing up the league in the future - assuming we had any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think the biggest problem is people are having their expectations crushed. When Carroll was sold all we could do was console ourselves with the belief/hope that we now had £35m to play with come the summer. Now despite having made three potentially great additions to the squad we've, on the surface, not spent any money. We've been cheated! I'm certainly getting that feeling reading many of the posts - but, but, you have not spent any money!! Admittedly, as things currently stand, it looks like we will still be a bit light on quality in squad depth. Arguably we could/should complain about that. But personally I'm convinced we have a much stronger, not marginally stronger, first eleven. Two signings still to come, and personally I don't think Taylor is counted one of them but maybe he is. This keeping money for the January window is an appeasement statement no doubt about that, transparently so, and we have a right to mock it. As is the continued emphasis on the £35m as if there are no other revenue streams or income. We definitely have money available. Counting 1yr of a players (several players) salary as having come out of that Carroll money would certainly account for a fair whack of that money, but it can only be viewed as sensible or clever if in the future we are still competing where others no longer can. I can't predict the future nor am I much of an accountant or economist, but if I take the dim view that Ashley is just recouping his investment then I will be despondent, utterly despondent. So for my own sake I try and maintain a balanced view and consider the future can be brighter and rest easy for now on the fact that I can't wait to see how the new look Newcastle Utd play next season. Good post. What's annoying me regarding the spending of the money is not that I believe it should be spent for the sake of it, but that I believe we are in an ideal position to push on and really make an impact in the Premier League this upcoming season. We did far better than most expected this time around, to me we should be building on that rather than merely consolidating. I believe the Carroll money gives us the perfect opportunity to bring forward any plans we had for pushing up the league in the future - assuming we had any. The point about bringing forward plans is excellent. They had a 5 year plan or whatever it was and I can't imagine that Ashley thought at the start of the plan we would get £35 million for one player. I don't think anyone is expecting the whole lot to be spent or do I think it needs to be spent. But we are a few good signings away from a push for a Europa league place. As it stands I believe our strongest 11 are able to push for that but we all know its a long hard season with injuries and suspensions to deal with, I just don't think our squad can carry us to Europe at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Fair point Dave, the Carroll sale was an unexpected boost to the cash flow. But on the other hand, £35m quid doesn't completely transform the picture of the club's finances. You could equally argue that spending it all on transfers now would be a reckless way to manage the club. If the right players are available at affordable prices, obviously I agree we should be spending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 But on the other hand, £35m quid doesn't completely transform the picture of the club's finances. You could equally argue that spending it all on transfers now would be a reckless way to manage the club. seriously ian, seriously? taking devils advocate to the extreme here like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 But on the other hand, £35m quid doesn't completely transform the picture of the club's finances. You could equally argue that spending it all on transfers now would be a reckless way to manage the club. seriously ian, seriously? taking devils advocate to the extreme here like I'm not saying we shouldn't spend anything, but wouldn't using some of the money to shore up other aspects of our finances be a good idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Spending £35mil now, on say two "big" players would be putting ~ £10mil a season onto the wagebill. I'd definately say that was reckless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think the biggest problem is people are having their expectations crushed. When Carroll was sold all we could do was console ourselves with the belief/hope that we now had £35m to play with come the summer. Now despite having made three potentially great additions to the squad we've, on the surface, not spent any money. We've been cheated! I'm certainly getting that feeling reading many of the posts - but, but, you have not spent any money!! Admittedly, as things currently stand, it looks like we will still be a bit light on quality in squad depth. Arguably we could/should complain about that. But personally I'm convinced we have a much stronger, not marginally stronger, first eleven. Two signings still to come, and personally I don't think Taylor is counted one of them but maybe he is. This keeping money for the January window is an appeasement statement no doubt about that, transparently so, and we have a right to mock it. As is the continued emphasis on the £35m as if there are no other revenue streams or income. We definitely have money available. Counting 1yr of a players (several players) salary as having come out of that Carroll money would certainly account for a fair whack of that money, but it can only be viewed as sensible or clever if in the future we are still competing where others no longer can. I can't predict the future nor am I much of an accountant or economist, but if I take the dim view that Ashley is just recouping his investment then I will be despondent, utterly despondent. So for my own sake I try and maintain a balanced view and consider the future can be brighter and rest easy for now on the fact that I can't wait to see how the new look Newcastle Utd play next season. Good post. What's annoying me regarding the spending of the money is not that I believe it should be spent for the sake of it, but that I believe we are in an ideal position to push on and really make an impact in the Premier League this upcoming season. We did far better than most expected this time around, to me we should be building on that rather than merely consolidating. It's not like we just scraped survival. I believe the Carroll money gives us the perfect opportunity to bring forward any plans we had for pushing up the league in the future - assuming we had any. There is that too, I can't argue with it. If only those feckers would communicate genuinely with us and we could trust what they said. A push for Europe could definitely be on the cards with 3 or 4 more in the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 8 quality signings in a summer would be pretty impressive like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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