José Mourinho

[LucaAltieri]

The Chelsea squad, on an individual basis, is class. Strikers could be better, mind. But the players alone don't win anything, winning is done by teams.

 

They played the Liverpool game perfectly. Rodgers has been whining about Chelsea defending from the first minute, but Liverpool start games fast, what the fuck is he supposed to do? Just let you score for the sake of the neutrals watching? Fuck that.

 

Chelsea have done Liverpool home and away and City home and away this season. That's not luck, it's not a vastly superior squad, it's using the right game plan.

[BrettNUFC]

City wouldn't have been able to put out a competitive team in midfield and defense if they had the amount of players Chelsea had missing. ( enforced or otherwise)

 

 

Milner Garcia Rodwell Navas

 

Kolarov Lescott Nastatic Richards

 

That's a complete separate midfield and defence, i'm sure if they had a few players missing there is more than enough there to be competitive in the manner Chelsea were if they set their stall out to defend.

[Mole_Toonfan]

I would have agreed on the squad not being good enough before they bought Salah, Schurrle, Willian, Matic and Eto'o.

 

Not now though, only thing they lack is as said someone of the Suarez/Aguero class.

[Mole_Toonfan]

City wouldn't have been able to put out a competitive team in midfield and defense if they had the amount of players Chelsea had missing. ( enforced or otherwise)

 

 

Milner Garcia Rodwell Navas

 

Kolarov Lescott Nastatic Richards

 

That's a complete separate midfield and defence, i'm sure if they had a few players missing there is more than enough there to be competitive in the manner Chelsea were if they set their stall out to defend.

 

That team would have got battered.

[TRon]

I would have agreed on the squad not being good enough before they bought Salah, Schurrle, Willian, Matic and Eto'o.

 

Not now though, only thing they lack is as said someone of the Suarez/Aguero class.

 

Their strikers aren't good enough when Hazard's out. Winning at Anfield with Ba starting as their main striker was a hell of a result.

[BrettNUFC]

That's a complete separate midfield and defence. Wasn't the case for Chelsea. Say Jose was in charge for Man City and set the team out, you're telling me this wouldn't be competitive yesterday.

 

Milner Garcia Toure Navas

 

Kolarov Lescott Kompany Richards

 

Chelsea still had a handful of regular starters out yesterday. Mikel/Lampard were playing because they miss mid week anyways through suspension.

[Mole_Toonfan]

I would have agreed on the squad not being good enough before they bought Salah, Schurrle, Willian, Matic and Eto'o.

 

Not now though, only thing they lack is as said someone of the Suarez/Aguero class.

 

Their strikers aren't good enough when Hazard's out. Winning at Anfield with Ba starting as their main striker was a hell of a result.

 

I never denied that though as i said they need someone of Aguero/Suarez ilk.

 

Squads are not just rated upon how many strikers you have despite common belief and Chelsea are absolutely stacked in every other position.

[Rosenrot]

Liverpool have beaten pretty much every other big team this season. Mourinho rolls up with a few players missing, and turns them over two nil. The bloke is mint

 

Agree so much with this. Love Mourinho.

[DJ_NUFC]

Yep.

 

And the reaction from Liverpool fans I know and online has been nothing less than shameful. Bunch of babies throwing their toys out of the pram. It's understandable, and I'd be pissed too, but they are all fucking sanctimonious and holier-than-thou than one needs to be.

 

For this reaction alone I want anyone but Liverpool now to win the league. Don't think it'll happen though. Sigh.

 

Fucking cunts.

[Trumpet]

Kudos for him for the result, but the wankfest and this "Tactical Masterclass" stuff is absolutely baffling.

 

Did he include in his masterclass preparation that opposition captain will slip and gift them a goal? What is so mastery in camping with 8 players on edge of the box? Tactical Masterclass was Pep's Barca doing these 5-0 3 years ago. Tactical Masterclass was game 6 of Fischer-Spassky chess championship game, Tactical Masterclass was Klopp's 4-1 win over Madrid last year.

 

Anyways, the man gets result no matter how ugly. Credit to him. But I'd hate to watch the shit he serves week after week. Jose to football, is what Ghenghis Khan was to human beings. Successful at conquering masses and adding land to its thing, but ultimately a forgettable prick. An absolute butcher of the beautiful game. Thankfully, he'll end up with zero titles for the second season in a row.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Well it is easier to coach...

[DJ_NUFC]

Are you a Liverpool fan, Georgey?

[Trumpet]

^ Yep.

 

One thing is great though. It will be either City/Liverpool who win the league barring an unbelievable collapse on half of both teams, so this "Defend with 10 men" tactical masterclass have failed in the league this season, but hey, the genius Mourinho can brag about his "4 wins in 4 games against City/Liverpool" trophy.

[LucaAltieri]

^ Yep.

 

One thing is great though. It will be either City/Liverpool who win the league barring an unbelievable collapse on half of both teams, so this "Defend with 10 men" tactical masterclass have failed in the league this season, but hey, the genius Mourinho can brag about his "4 wins in 4 games against City/Liverpool" trophy.

 

I'm sure he'll be content with the Champion's League.

[loki679]

I fucking love watching liverpool fans cry like babies when something goes against them.

[DJ_NUFC]

For the football Rodgers has you lot playing you deserve something, but there have been very few normal Liverpool fans surrounding me who demand respect. You may be one of the few on earth, which explains why you've survived around N-O for this long

 

Mind you, I'm beginning to call Rodgers a genius as well, he's done astonishingly well this season. He has some way of course to go to be at Mourinho or other greats, but all he needs now is time, from the looks of it.

[Trumpet]

^ Yep.

 

One thing is great though. It will be either City/Liverpool who win the league barring an unbelievable collapse on half of both teams, so this "Defend with 10 men" tactical masterclass have failed in the league this season, but hey, the genius Mourinho can brag about his "4 wins in 4 games against City/Liverpool" trophy.

 

I'm sure he'll be content with the Champion's League.

 

He won't be winning it. I believe in La Decima.

 

Cheers DJ, I will be lasting here for decades to come hopefully.

[Incognito]

^ Yep.

 

One thing is great though. It will be either City/Liverpool who win the league barring an unbelievable collapse on half of both teams, so this "Defend with 10 men" tactical masterclass have failed in the league this season, but hey, the genius Mourinho can brag about his "4 wins in 4 games against City/Liverpool" trophy.

 

To think parking the bus at Old Trafford may well be the difference between them winning or losing the League appeals to me. Negative bastard.

[timeEd32]

Kudos for him for the result, but the wankfest and this "Tactical Masterclass" stuff is absolutely baffling.

 

Did he include in his masterclass preparation that opposition captain will slip and gift them a goal? What is so mastery in camping with 8 players on edge of the box? Tactical Masterclass was Pep's Barca doing these 5-0 3 years ago. Tactical Masterclass was game 6 of Fischer-Spassky chess championship game, Tactical Masterclass was Klopp's 4-1 win over Madrid last year.

 

Anyways, the man gets result no matter how ugly. Credit to him. But I'd hate to watch the s*** he serves week after week. Jose to football, is what Ghenghis Khan was to human beings. Successful at conquering masses and adding land to its thing, but ultimately a forgettable prick. An absolute butcher of the beautiful game. Thankfully, he'll end up with zero titles for the second season in a row.

 

I don't disagree that I'd rather watch Klopp or Guardiola teams, but to dismiss what Jose does is just silly.

 

What's masterful is the level of organization in the back 4/6/8. The fact the CBs yesterday were Ivanovic and a kid making his PL debut, and it didn't matter one damn bit. The fact they sit back and somehow aren't under a constant barrage of great scoring chances. And, the most amazing thing to me is the fact that even though there are 6, 8, or more players sitting back, when the ball is cleared there always seems to be a Chelsea player getting possession. It's not the type of sitting back that invites wave after wave of pressure. It's calculated and controlled with outlets to effectively counter-attack, which is why it's successful for him so often. This isn't just dumb luck.

 

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Chelsea don't play poor football or negative football to be honest. To say they do shows a lack of understanding about the game. They play to win games. Mourinho isn't gung ho or throws caution to the wind yes, but he sends his sides out to win and more often than not they win, especially the big games and those that can really count like at Anfield yesterday. Chelsea play what I'd call effective structured football based on a system and tactics and every player playing to that paradigm. There is little room for free flowing football or players truly expressing themselves off the cuff, but then that's OK. There isn't a rule that states every team has to be all out attack or pass masters like Barca for example.

 

We are a poor football side, we play poor football. Mourinho and Chelsea are fucking light years ahead of what we serve up.

[DJ_NUFC]

Chelsea don't play poor football or negative football to be honest. To say they do shows a lack of understanding about the game. They play to win games. Mourinho isn't gung ho or throws caution to the wind yes, but he sends his sides out to win and more often than not they win, especially the big games and those that can really count like at Anfield yesterday. Chelsea play what I'd call effective structured football based on a system and tactics and every player playing to that paradigm. There is little room for free flowing football or players truly expressing themselves off the cuff, but then that's OK. There isn't a rule that states every team has to be all out attack or pass masters like Barca for example.

 

We are a poor football side, we play poor football. Mourinho and Chelsea are fucking light years ahead of what we serve up.

 

[Guest bimpy474]

Liverpool are just bitter that Jose didn't come out all guns blazing and let Liverpool beat them 4-2, i enjoyed every minute of it.

 

[KaKa]

Liverpool have over achieved massively this season. There guaranteed a Champions League place next year. They've already killed it.

 

Can only imagine the kind of players they will bring in this summer now. It's going to be a lot worse for other fans before it gets better.

[Flip]

Chelsea don't play poor football or negative football to be honest. To say they do shows a lack of understanding about the game. They play to win games. Mourinho isn't gung ho or throws caution to the wind yes, but he sends his sides out to win and more often than not they win, especially the big games and those that can really count like at Anfield yesterday. Chelsea play what I'd call effective structured football based on a system and tactics and every player playing to that paradigm. There is little room for free flowing football or players truly expressing themselves off the cuff, but then that's OK. There isn't a rule that states every team has to be all out attack or pass masters like Barca for example.

 

We are a poor football side, we play poor football. Mourinho and Chelsea are f***ing light years ahead of what we serve up.

 

So it's a lack of understanding of the game to suggest they play a negative football? You're off your tits again HTT. Jesus Christ. Not to diminish what he has done, but had he truly been this genius that many on here seem to think, he'd have run this league this year with his squad. I'm sorry but he has in my opinion undoubtedly the 2nd if not the best squad in the league. To play the football his team does is boring, negative and a piss to watch. It's effective, he's in the semi-finals of the CL, but it's still boooooring and negative as fuck. How anyone can deny that and yet say people who think that lack a knowledge of the game is embarrassing (which coming from you sometimes isn't a surprise).

 

Also, they should also be light-years ahead of us, but lets not forget they lost the title with losses to teams like us, Sunderland and Crystal Palace which have no advantage in any position. He's a very good manager, and he gets his players to cough blood for him, but let's not pretend he sends his team out to win every day, because just last week against Atletico he had no intention to win.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Don't get me wrong I find Chelsea boring, but you do not win what Mourinho has won or his sides by playing poor negative football. He sets his sides up to win the game just as much as Rodgers does, but Mourinho is more pragmatic, more calculating, more tactical and more in control of his team and players which in many ways makes what he achieves even more remarkable because how they play and how they win is basically more down to their manager than their own ability or prowess.