Mole_Toonfan Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 At the end of the day, almost every single player under him has gone backwards. That's enough to sack him by itself even if you ignore everything else, as it's literally the no 1 priority as a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? They aren’t in 2nd now. He wouldn’t be getting sacked if they were Season isn’t even half way done. Given the form of City and Liverpool, 3rd is a very decent result and would have been very achievable if it weren’t for a few wrong uns in their dressing room. I’m not defending him. He’s a moany cunt but he’s also a very good manager. He may well have run out of big clubs to manage now so be interesting to see what he gets offered next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? And now comfortably outside the Champions League, having spent more than anyone, getting paid more than anyone, ruining squad morale, and falling out with everyone. That universe, the one where the others listed didn't do that. Pep's spent more tbf. Mourinho would never have bought some of the players Pep has though. Even this week he was whinging about his players lack of physicality. I'm not one of those that hates him either, I think he makes the Premier more interesting, but his time is up at the very top. Best bet for him would be a club just below that tier, he'd be good for a team like Everton maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? They aren’t in 2nd now. He wouldn’t be getting sacked if they were Season isn’t even half way done. Given the form of City and Liverpool, 3rd is a very decent result and would have been very achievable if it weren’t for a few wrong uns in their dressing room. I’m not defending him. He’s a moany c*** but he’s also a very good manager. He may well have run out of big clubs to manage now so be interesting to see what he gets offered next. Who are the wronguns? Let me guess, Pogba? Conte, Allegri and Deschamps all got on with him fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 You can't defend Mourinho at all, dinosaur of the modern game. A job in China awaits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? And now comfortably outside the Champions League, having spent more than anyone, getting paid more than anyone, ruining squad morale, and falling out with everyone. That universe, the one where the others listed didn't do that. Pep's spent more tbf. Mourinho would never have bought some of the players Pep has though. Even this week he was whinging about his players lack of physicality. I'm not one of those that hates him either, I think he makes the Premier more interesting, but his time is up at the very top. Best bet for him would be a club just below that tier, he'd be good for a team like Everton maybe. Or played them correctly, the likes of Sane, Sterling would have floundered under Mourinho. Hell there's no way in hell Mourinho would have played Silva and De Bruyne in a midfield 3, he would have stuck at least one of them on the wing covering the fullback. Not really a Pep thing either, he's failed to do anything that Emery, Klopp or Pochettino have done I.E. actually improve the players you have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Mole most managers wouldn't play that sort of side I don't think it can be used as a criticism against Mourinho personally. More than one way to win a game of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Mole most managers wouldn't play that sort of side I don't think it can be used as a criticism against Mourinho personally. More than one way to win a game of football. Which is why i mentioned the other managers in the top 6 specifically. They've all improved the players they have, where as Mourinho has done the opposite. That's the long and short of it to me, if you're not improving players as a manager you're not fit to be in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Wasn't defending Mourinho btw just didn't think it was a reason to criticize him. He deserves the sack imo. All that money spent and nothing to show for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? And now comfortably outside the Champions League, having spent more than anyone, getting paid more than anyone, ruining squad morale, and falling out with everyone. That universe, the one where the others listed didn't do that. Pep's spent more tbf. Mourinho would never have bought some of the players Pep has though. Even this week he was whinging about his players lack of physicality. I'm not one of those that hates him either, I think he makes the Premier more interesting, but his time is up at the very top. Best bet for him would be a club just below that tier, he'd be good for a team like Everton maybe. Or played them correctly, the likes of Sane, Sterling would have floundered under Mourinho. Hell there's no way in hell Mourinho would have played Silva and De Bruyne in a midfield 3, he would have stuck at least one of them on the wing covering the fullback. Not really a Pep thing either, he's failed to do anything that Emery, Klopp or Pochettino have done I.E. actually improve the players you have. Didn't he get rid of De Bruyne during his time at Chelsea? Not sure about it, but yeah, he doesn't really trust the flair players does he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Surprised they did it now, although it's been inevitable for a while. Mourinho is a fossil, overtaken by several managers in this league alone. Wonder if we'll ever see him in England again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? And now comfortably outside the Champions League, having spent more than anyone, getting paid more than anyone, ruining squad morale, and falling out with everyone. That universe, the one where the others listed didn't do that. Pep's spent more tbf. Mourinho would never have bought some of the players Pep has though. Even this week he was whinging about his players lack of physicality. I'm not one of those that hates him either, I think he makes the Premier more interesting, but his time is up at the very top. Best bet for him would be a club just below that tier, he'd be good for a team like Everton maybe. Or played them correctly, the likes of Sane, Sterling would have floundered under Mourinho. Hell there's no way in hell Mourinho would have played Silva and De Bruyne in a midfield 3, he would have stuck at least one of them on the wing covering the fullback. Not really a Pep thing either, he's failed to do anything that Emery, Klopp or Pochettino have done I.E. actually improve the players you have. Didn't he get rid of De Bruyne during his time at Chelsea? Not sure about it, but yeah, he doesn't really trust the flair players does he? And Salah. He expects wingers and attacking midfielders to score or assist in every single game or he drops them until their replacement doesn't score in a game and they're back in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He's been an utter dick yet always so very respectful about us and Bobby in particular. For that reason I find it hard to hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 So is Carrick the caretaker until the new caretaker arrives at the weekend ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 So is Carrick the caretaker until the new caretaker arrives at the weekend ? Aye, seems to be suggesting so on yellow ticker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He's been an utter dick yet always so very respectful about us and Bobby in particular. For that reason I find it hard to hate him. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He's the football equivalent of Wolf from Gladiators. I would imagine a lot of his behaviour is put on but the physio business was pretty shitty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Regarding Pogba's suspiciously-timed 'Caption this' social media post: https://twitter.com/GNev2/status/1074983715544154113 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Well Moyes side finished 7th. Van Gaal 4th and then 4th Mourinho 6th and then 2nd I’m not sure in what universe finishing 2nd can’t be seen as an improvement? And now comfortably outside the Champions League, having spent more than anyone, getting paid more than anyone, ruining squad morale, and falling out with everyone. That universe, the one where the others listed didn't do that. Pep's spent more tbf. Mourinho would never have bought some of the players Pep has though. Even this week he was whinging about his players lack of physicality. I'm not one of those that hates him either, I think he makes the Premier more interesting, but his time is up at the very top. Best bet for him would be a club just below that tier, he'd be good for a team like Everton maybe. Or played them correctly, the likes of Sane, Sterling would have floundered under Mourinho. Hell there's no way in hell Mourinho would have played Silva and De Bruyne in a midfield 3, he would have stuck at least one of them on the wing covering the fullback. Not really a Pep thing either, he's failed to do anything that Emery, Klopp or Pochettino have done I.E. actually improve the players you have. Didn't he get rid of De Bruyne during his time at Chelsea? Not sure about it, but yeah, he doesn't really trust the flair players does he? And Salah. He expects wingers and attacking midfielders to score or assist in every single game or he drops them until their replacement doesn't score in a game and they're back in No wonder Chelsea fans fell out of love with him. Imagine flogging off two of the very best players in England to your rivals? Dear me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Again not defending him but both De Bruyne and Salah werent playing at the level they currently are when sold and neither were sold to English club's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Shame he's gone - he was definitely holding Man U back. They might actually start playing football just in time to thrash us. I think that's him done in England now. He's completely charmless and toxic, and his coaching methods are prehistoric compared to the new breed of managers. Portugal job for him maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 is he pals with kenyon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 is he pals with kenyon? I hope not. I'd be gutted if Rafa got replaced by that twat. Rafa is the classiest manager we've had by miles since Robson. Mourinho has Pardewesque levels of classlessness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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