The College Dropout Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 It's good for the sport that the best managers now aren't the likes of Jose and Rafa. You still have your Conte's and Simeone's but they aren't getting the very top jobs. Heynckes is a shout. Won 2 CLs 20 years apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Wenger? Won plenty with not much cash. Not much cash? Naah. Net transfer spend? Sure. But they consistently spent shit-loads on wages, and as soon as Chelsea started spending he stopped winning stuff. The frugal years were between 2006 and 2013, when he won precisely zip, and even Spurs won a trophy. Then after that he - or the higher-ups - really did start to splash the cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 There was a stat that Arsenal had spent the most money on their squad when Wenger won his first 2 league titles. But the 3rd, The Invincibles was the first of the PL era to win the league and not be one of the two teams spending the most money on their squad. 2006 to 2013 he kept them competitive although a couple of times they should've gone closer to the title based on the squad. The last 3/4 years or so, he was clearly done. But he did a good job before that. Even when he was done he won FA Cups. Spurs could only dream of being such a great spent force. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 There was a stat that Arsenal had spent the most money on their squad when Wenger won his first 2 league titles. But the 3rd, The Invincibles was the first of the PL era to win the league and not be one of the two teams spending the most money on their squad. 2006 to 2013 he kept them competitive although a couple of times they should've gone closer to the title based on the squad. The last 3/4 years or so, he was clearly done. But he did a good job before that. Even when he was done he won FA Cups. Spurs could only dream of being such a great spent force. We could only dream of spending the money they were spending, and we've been better over those years. Would be nice to win something though . Would also be nice if Man City and Chelsea fucked off, but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 There was a stat that Arsenal had spent the most money on their squad when Wenger won his first 2 league titles. But the 3rd, The Invincibles was the first of the PL era to win the league and not be one of the two teams spending the most money on their squad. 2006 to 2013 he kept them competitive although a couple of times they should've gone closer to the title based on the squad. The last 3/4 years or so, he was clearly done. But he did a good job before that. Even when he was done he won FA Cups. Spurs could only dream of being such a great spent force. We could only dream of spending the money they were spending, and we've been better over those years. Would be nice to win something though . Would also be nice if Man City and Chelsea fucked off, but there you go. Aye you've been better but won nowt. I think the fact Arsene is undoubtedly a winner helped him win those. IIRC they beat teams better than them, that had also beat Spurs to win 2 finals. That's the one thing with Poch and Klopp (he's won stuff but also lost an amazing amount of finals). If Jose had such competitive teams, he would've won a trophy by now with both clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Leffe absolutely loves mentioning that Spurs don’t spend any money whenever other big team’s finances are brought up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 There was a stat that Arsenal had spent the most money on their squad when Wenger won his first 2 league titles. But the 3rd, The Invincibles was the first of the PL era to win the league and not be one of the two teams spending the most money on their squad. 2006 to 2013 he kept them competitive although a couple of times they should've gone closer to the title based on the squad. The last 3/4 years or so, he was clearly done. But he did a good job before that. Even when he was done he won FA Cups. Spurs could only dream of being such a great spent force. We could only dream of spending the money they were spending, and we've been better over those years. Would be nice to win something though . Would also be nice if Man City and Chelsea f***ed off, but there you go. Aye you've been better but won nowt. I think the fact Arsene is undoubtedly a winner helped him win those. IIRC they beat teams better than them, that had also beat Spurs to win 2 finals. That's the one thing with Poch and Klopp (he's won stuff but also lost an amazing amount of finals). If Jose had such competitive teams, he would've won a trophy by now with both clubs. He wouldn’t have made Spurs or Liverpool that good though which is a major thing you’ve left out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Loved the Inter run aswell - that uber defensive performance in Barca was pure sex. That whole Inter spell has an asterisk next to it anyway. I follow nerazzuri in Italy, and I’ve always had this resentment that Mourinho was in charge when they finally won the Serie A. The state Italian football was in at the time, Pardew might have won the scudetto with Inter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 People ho are saying hes one of the greatest managers ever need to remember He has been sacked from every club hes been to bar 1 This is irrelevant but alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 How long before Ashley offers Rafa to Man U ? 🤪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 How long before Ashley offers Rafa to Man U ? 🤪 If it's for cash, Ashley would sell his own mother. He wouldn't think twice before fucking the club over for a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Leffe absolutely loves mentioning that Spurs don’t spend any money whenever other big team’s finances are brought up Yup - it's one of my key functions on here . There are a number of trigger phrases to which I am required to respond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Don't think they'd want Rafa. They probably see him as another Mourinho in terms of style of football, and a manager with his best years behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Fuck him, miserable twat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I reckon he wanted to sell Pogba in January, they realised they’d be taking a massive hit on his transfer fee, so they weighed it up against Jose’s pay off and thought it would be cheaper to do that instead. The timing is strange. Like, why put a caretaker manager in for the majority of the season. Who’s in a job right now that wouldn’t jump ship? Do they not need to try and ensure a top 4 finish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Why would they go to the bother of appointing a caretaker when Carrick could just do it and there's probably as much chance of him being decent than Solskjaer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Why would they go to the bother of appointing a caretaker when Carrick could just do it and there's probably as much chance of him being decent than Solskjaer Yeap, I'm wondering this as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Can only think Carrick specifically didn't want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 How much have they had to pay him? £18m. No wonder he was smiling on his way out of his sordid little grief hole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He never seemed happy with their buys. Yes they spent daft money as stupid as it sounds other than Matic how many were his first choices? Watching them play their midfield doesn't work too many 6 footers who just run and tackle a bit. No finesse trying to remember his Chelsea midfield did he have a playmaker alongside makelele and lampards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 How much have they had to pay him? £18m. No wonder he was smiling on his way out of his sordid little grief hole Living like some bloody tramp in a lay-by Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 How much have they had to pay him? £18m. No wonder he was smiling on his way out of his sordid little grief hole Living like some bloody tramp in a lay-by Have you got your big plate, José? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 John Terry will not like that contouring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Quite incredible that such a horrendous, painful, embarrassing period included them winning two of the competitions they featured in last season. How the other half live, eh. Certainly not denying that this season has been disastrous by their standards, by the way. As everyone has said, he's been outdone tactically by more progressive and modern managers, and he's just never really seemed like a good fit for that club. Meanwhile the character traits for which he's been famed aren't useful or entertaining any more; he used to be cocky and would ruffle feathers with it, now he just seems constantly bitter and clinging to previous achievements that he's never going to replicate. I was sick of him ages ago but still kinda hold a bit of hope for him in England. It would be interesting to see him build something with more typical resources at a club that doesn't expect immediate success. I'd even take him here in some circumstances; say if Rafa had moved on but we had new owners who wanted to build the club around a particular vision. Hopefully he isn't finished but hopefully it's the last we see of him for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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