Keegan not new Hamburg manager

[TheGuv]

KEEGAN!  :indi:

[Guest palnese]

I would have him back in a flash.

 

It would all end in tears though... Yet again.

[SEMTEX]

That's cos Keegan is a cunt.

[madras]

i wish he would give his version of what was going on as it may force the whole truth out into the open.

 

Kevin Keegan reacted to the news by releasing a statement in which he said:

 

1. I am delighted that the Premier League Manager's arbitration tribunal has today formally announced that it has upheld my claim for wrongful dismissal against Newcastle United. The full details of the decision are on the Premier League website and will also be added to the League Managers Association website in due course.

 

2. I took the decision to resign in September 2008 only after very careful and anxious consideration. The decision to resign was one of the most difficult decisions that I have ever had to take in my life. I believe that anybody who knows me and my attachment to Newcastle United and the north east in general will understand how difficult this must have been. I very much hope that the decision of the tribunal now confirms why I felt that I had no option but to resign from the position as manager of the club that I love.

 

3. The tribunal has found the conduct of the club in forcing a player on me against my wishes represented a fundamental breach of my contract of employment. I do not believe that there is any manager in football who could have remained at the club in the light of their conduct.

 

4. Since my departure there have been many untrue stories written about my resignation, my time at the club and these proceedings. I do not blame the press for this: I know that the journalists concerned are only doing their job but I hope that the tribunal's decision will now conclusively put to rest a number of allegations made against me.

 

5. In particular I believe that the tribunal's decision makes it clear that:

 

5.1 I did have the final say on transfers and the club's allegation that I did not, which was publicised widely at the time of my resignation and subsequently, was simply untrue.

 

5.2 The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United.

 

5.3 I resigned because I was being asked to sanction the signing of a player in order to "do a favour" for two South American agents. No one at the club had seen this player play and I was asked to sign him on the basis of some clips on You Tube. This is something that I was not prepared to be associated with in any way. The club knew that I objected strongly to this transfer and were aware that by continuing with it I was likely to feel that I had no option but to resign. Notwithstanding this they nevertheless went on to sign the player at very substantial cost to the club.

 

5.4 Contrary to the public statements made by the club at the time they did not do all that they could to retain me at the club. In particular they refused to acknowledge that I was entitled to the final say on transfers. This left me in a totally untenable position.

 

5.5 A number of the allegations made against me by the club at the hearing in order to support their £2million claim against me were totally without foundation and should never have been raised in the proceedings.

 

6. I very much regret that this claim ever had to go to the hearing as it did. I want to state categorically that the allegation that has been made in the press that I turned down an offer of £4m to settle the claim is simply untrue. No such offer was made to me.

 

7. I also want to confirm that a central purpose of my claim has always been to clear my name and restore my reputation. I consider it of vital importance that I was able to let people know about the full circumstances of my resignation and the way in which I had been treated by the club. I hope that this purpose has now been achieved.

 

8. There are a number of technical issues that still need to be resolved by the tribunal and I obviously will not be in a position to comment on them until after those issues have been resolved.

 

9. I would like to thank my family, friends, legal team and the LMA who have all offered me their unstinting support throughout this very challenging period. I would also like to thank the members of the tribunal itself who have given such fair, able and meticulous consideration to my case.

 

10. Finally I would like to thank the fans of Newcastle United for their continued support and wish them and the club continued success in the current season in their goal of reaching the Premier League.

 

 

the club responded...

 

"The Club will be making no comment on this matter."

 

How's it Keegan that's hiding the truth?

who were the players he was after that he wasn't allowed to get ? (the only one i remember was zayatte).

 

(and a nice little twist of words there to make it seem i think keegan is hoding out as opposed to just thinking theres a lot more to this that needs clearing up)

[Cajun]

Lampard.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Lampard.

 

Henry.

[David28]

Lampard.

 

Henry.

 

Xisco. (?)

[madras]

Lampard.

now i don't take that NotW piece at 100% but didn't someone on here try to make out that a move for lampard at that time wouldn't have so outlandish ?

[Happy Face]

i wish he would give his version of what was going on as it may force the whole truth out into the open.

 

Kevin Keegan reacted to the news by releasing a statement in which he said:

 

1. I am delighted that the Premier League Manager's arbitration tribunal has today formally announced that it has upheld my claim for wrongful dismissal against Newcastle United. The full details of the decision are on the Premier League website and will also be added to the League Managers Association website in due course.

 

2. I took the decision to resign in September 2008 only after very careful and anxious consideration. The decision to resign was one of the most difficult decisions that I have ever had to take in my life. I believe that anybody who knows me and my attachment to Newcastle United and the north east in general will understand how difficult this must have been. I very much hope that the decision of the tribunal now confirms why I felt that I had no option but to resign from the position as manager of the club that I love.

 

3. The tribunal has found the conduct of the club in forcing a player on me against my wishes represented a fundamental breach of my contract of employment. I do not believe that there is any manager in football who could have remained at the club in the light of their conduct.

 

4. Since my departure there have been many untrue stories written about my resignation, my time at the club and these proceedings. I do not blame the press for this: I know that the journalists concerned are only doing their job but I hope that the tribunal's decision will now conclusively put to rest a number of allegations made against me.

 

5. In particular I believe that the tribunal's decision makes it clear that:

 

5.1 I did have the final say on transfers and the club's allegation that I did not, which was publicised widely at the time of my resignation and subsequently, was simply untrue.

 

5.2 The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United.

 

5.3 I resigned because I was being asked to sanction the signing of a player in order to "do a favour" for two South American agents. No one at the club had seen this player play and I was asked to sign him on the basis of some clips on You Tube. This is something that I was not prepared to be associated with in any way. The club knew that I objected strongly to this transfer and were aware that by continuing with it I was likely to feel that I had no option but to resign. Notwithstanding this they nevertheless went on to sign the player at very substantial cost to the club.

 

5.4 Contrary to the public statements made by the club at the time they did not do all that they could to retain me at the club. In particular they refused to acknowledge that I was entitled to the final say on transfers. This left me in a totally untenable position.

 

5.5 A number of the allegations made against me by the club at the hearing in order to support their £2million claim against me were totally without foundation and should never have been raised in the proceedings.

 

6. I very much regret that this claim ever had to go to the hearing as it did. I want to state categorically that the allegation that has been made in the press that I turned down an offer of £4m to settle the claim is simply untrue. No such offer was made to me.

 

7. I also want to confirm that a central purpose of my claim has always been to clear my name and restore my reputation. I consider it of vital importance that I was able to let people know about the full circumstances of my resignation and the way in which I had been treated by the club. I hope that this purpose has now been achieved.

 

8. There are a number of technical issues that still need to be resolved by the tribunal and I obviously will not be in a position to comment on them until after those issues have been resolved.

 

9. I would like to thank my family, friends, legal team and the LMA who have all offered me their unstinting support throughout this very challenging period. I would also like to thank the members of the tribunal itself who have given such fair, able and meticulous consideration to my case.

 

10. Finally I would like to thank the fans of Newcastle United for their continued support and wish them and the club continued success in the current season in their goal of reaching the Premier League.

 

 

the club responded...

 

"The Club will be making no comment on this matter."

 

How's it Keegan that's hiding the truth?

who were the players he was after that he wasn't allowed to get ? (the only one i remember was zayatte).

 

(and a nice little twist of words there to make it seem i think keegan is hoding out as opposed to just thinking theres a lot more to this that needs clearing up)

 

I can't see where he says he wasn't allowed to bring in the players he was after.

 

Genuinley, could you quote the section you're referring to?

[Cajun]

Lampard.

now i don't take that NotW piece at 100% but didn't someone on here try to make out that a move for lampard at that time wouldn't have so outlandish ?

 

It wouldn't surprise me.

[madras]

i wish he would give his version of what was going on as it may force the whole truth out into the open.

 

Kevin Keegan reacted to the news by releasing a statement in which he said:

 

1. I am delighted that the Premier League Manager's arbitration tribunal has today formally announced that it has upheld my claim for wrongful dismissal against Newcastle United. The full details of the decision are on the Premier League website and will also be added to the League Managers Association website in due course.

 

2. I took the decision to resign in September 2008 only after very careful and anxious consideration. The decision to resign was one of the most difficult decisions that I have ever had to take in my life. I believe that anybody who knows me and my attachment to Newcastle United and the north east in general will understand how difficult this must have been. I very much hope that the decision of the tribunal now confirms why I felt that I had no option but to resign from the position as manager of the club that I love.

 

3. The tribunal has found the conduct of the club in forcing a player on me against my wishes represented a fundamental breach of my contract of employment. I do not believe that there is any manager in football who could have remained at the club in the light of their conduct.

 

4. Since my departure there have been many untrue stories written about my resignation, my time at the club and these proceedings. I do not blame the press for this: I know that the journalists concerned are only doing their job but I hope that the tribunal's decision will now conclusively put to rest a number of allegations made against me.

 

5. In particular I believe that the tribunal's decision makes it clear that:

 

5.1 I did have the final say on transfers and the club's allegation that I did not, which was publicised widely at the time of my resignation and subsequently, was simply untrue.

 

5.2 The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United.

 

5.3 I resigned because I was being asked to sanction the signing of a player in order to "do a favour" for two South American agents. No one at the club had seen this player play and I was asked to sign him on the basis of some clips on You Tube. This is something that I was not prepared to be associated with in any way. The club knew that I objected strongly to this transfer and were aware that by continuing with it I was likely to feel that I had no option but to resign. Notwithstanding this they nevertheless went on to sign the player at very substantial cost to the club.

 

5.4 Contrary to the public statements made by the club at the time they did not do all that they could to retain me at the club. In particular they refused to acknowledge that I was entitled to the final say on transfers. This left me in a totally untenable position.

 

5.5 A number of the allegations made against me by the club at the hearing in order to support their £2million claim against me were totally without foundation and should never have been raised in the proceedings.

 

6. I very much regret that this claim ever had to go to the hearing as it did. I want to state categorically that the allegation that has been made in the press that I turned down an offer of £4m to settle the claim is simply untrue. No such offer was made to me.

 

7. I also want to confirm that a central purpose of my claim has always been to clear my name and restore my reputation. I consider it of vital importance that I was able to let people know about the full circumstances of my resignation and the way in which I had been treated by the club. I hope that this purpose has now been achieved.

 

8. There are a number of technical issues that still need to be resolved by the tribunal and I obviously will not be in a position to comment on them until after those issues have been resolved.

 

9. I would like to thank my family, friends, legal team and the LMA who have all offered me their unstinting support throughout this very challenging period. I would also like to thank the members of the tribunal itself who have given such fair, able and meticulous consideration to my case.

 

10. Finally I would like to thank the fans of Newcastle United for their continued support and wish them and the club continued success in the current season in their goal of reaching the Premier League.

 

 

the club responded...

 

"The Club will be making no comment on this matter."

 

How's it Keegan that's hiding the truth?

who were the players he was after that he wasn't allowed to get ? (the only one i remember was zayatte).

 

(and a nice little twist of words there to make it seem i think keegan is hoding out as opposed to just thinking theres a lot more to this that needs clearing up)

 

I can't see where he says he wasn't allowed to bring in the players he was after.

 

Genuinley, could you quote the section you're referring to?

well isn't that the implication in "having the final say" or do you really think he got who he wanted as he knew the constraints of the club and the only reason he left was gonzalez coming in ?

 

 

do you think gonzalez coming in was the biggest thing at the club and all that wants answering ? you not bothered about what else was going on.

[Incognito]

I think he wanted Schweinsteiger.

[madras]

I think he wanted Schweinsteiger.

that is a regular rumour but it goes on that the player said no after agreeing terms etc.

[David28]

I think he wanted Schweinsteiger.

that is a regular rumour but it goes on that the player said no after agreeing terms etc.

 

I for myself still don't think that we were ever close to signing him btw. I certainly would have heard something here that time but heard nothing about that.

[madras]

I think he wanted Schweinsteiger.

that is a regular rumour but it goes on that the player said no after agreeing terms etc.

 

I for myself still don't think that we were ever close to signing him btw. I certainly would have heard something here that time but heard nothing about that.

like i say. it's all rumour as was the rumour that wise set up a deal for derdiyok and keegan pulled the plug on that one. the rumour was that bassong was a vetere signing when he wasn't in the team at the start then he became a keegan signing when doing well in the first team....all rumour.

 

if keegan or the board would come out and say who respective parties were after and why they never happened then i reckon we'd be a lot closer to the truth .

[Tooj]

Good luck to him if he gets the job.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Good luck to him them if he gets the job.

 

fyp

[madras]

Good luck to him if he gets the job.

aye. the world cant have enough managers who preach,open,attacking, pass and move football.

[David28]

Just been on a Hamburg forum... they wouldn't even want him       

[NG32]

More fool them.

[Happy Face]

Well isn't that the implication in "having the final say" or do you really think he got who he wanted as he knew the constraints of the club and the only reason he left was gonzalez coming in ?

 

 

do you think gonzalez coming in was the biggest thing at the club and all that wants answering ? you not bothered about what else was going on.

 

I don't think he implies anything about the players he wanted or the boards ability to deliver.

 

He states implicitly the problem was a specific player being forced upon him.  The players he wanted and the efforts made (or not) to secure them was never brought up by Keegan or the club.  If anything, it's implied that he was quite happy that he'd had final say on the players already signed in the summer (Jonas, Colo, Guthrie, Bassong).

 

If he was making unreasonable demands it was up to the club to show that.  They haven't and won't.

 

Keegan's never walked out of a club due to budgetry constraints.  He's left every club in a better league position than he found it.  Three out of four in higher divisions than he found them.

 

The stick he gets from some Newcastle fans is appalling.

[OzzieMandias]

What makes me chuckle is the pompous, denunciatory tone adopted by the Keegan-can-do-no-wrong brigade.

 

"Disgraceful", "appalling", "frankly disgusting" etc.

 

It's like reading the letters page of the Daily Telegraph. Brilliant!

[Happy Face]

What makes me chuckle is the pompous, denunciatory tone adopted by the Keegan-can-do-no-wrong brigade.

 

"Disgraceful", "appalling", "frankly disgusting" etc.

 

It's like reading the letters page of the Daily Telegraph. Brilliant!

 

The more this goes on, the more I definitely don't want Keegan back. The idea that the whole club is so completely in thrall to one temperamental, volatile man is frankly appalling.

 

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,56160.msg1520745.html#msg1520745

 

[Liam Liam Liam O]

What makes me chuckle is the pompous, denunciatory tone adopted by the Keegan-can-do-no-wrong brigade.

 

"Disgraceful", "appalling", "frankly disgusting" etc.

 

It's like reading the letters page of the Daily Telegraph. Brilliant!

 

The more this goes on, the more I definitely don't want Keegan back. The idea that the whole club is so completely in thrall to one temperamental, volatile man is frankly appalling.

 

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,56160.msg1520745.html#msg1520745

 

 

That was too easy, wasn't it?

[OzzieMandias]

What makes me chuckle is the pompous, denunciatory tone adopted by the Keegan-can-do-no-wrong brigade.

 

"Disgraceful", "appalling", "frankly disgusting" etc.

 

It's like reading the letters page of the Daily Telegraph. Brilliant!

 

The more this goes on, the more I definitely don't want Keegan back. The idea that the whole club is so completely in thrall to one temperamental, volatile man is frankly appalling.

 

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,56160.msg1520745.html#msg1520745