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summerof69

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For a team that is easily 50% very average players, the States do very well, tbh.

 

Yeah, i agree i think it gives us (Newcastle) hope for next season because if a team has the right attitude they can do very well.

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gazza ladra

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@ summerof69 & Keefaz,

 

Yes and yes.

 

At least we can now put together a few passes and attempt to take the game to the opposition. It was painful, really, really painful watching the US play in 90, 94, and 98. Truly awful. Getting there slowly.

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Taylor Swift

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It's much easier to develop your basketball skills in American than your football skills. They've got rims every where and street ball exists in every city. It's just like the Brazilians and how the kids play football on the streets. Any good, athletic American kid is drafted into his JV/Varsity basketball/american football teams and that's it, there's no chance to develop them into a good footballer. I also think the fact that they've got to be drafted and shit, and thus not allowing professional teams to develop their own talent from a young age (like 12 or 13, like it is in Europe) means the quality of the players is much lower than you'd expect from a country with such a large population and good sporting infrastructure.

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Ameritoon

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Not exactly upset we're out, we didn't deserve to go any farther considering our defense. Just upset it's over, the last four years I've been waiting for this, sucks to have it end. Not time to fallback on Newcastle.

 

Fuck.

 

eh

 

Baseball season again!

 

Ha, right. Tigers won't beat out Minnesota for the division, and no way anyone out of the AL East gets the wild card spot.

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JH

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Is El Tel doing a s*** Sinatra impression supposed to make me want to buy The Sun?

 

It's supposed to persuade you we're going to win the World Cup :lol:

 

:lol: And even then the most positive tagline they could come up with was 'Maybe.  Just maybe'.  Should be updating it throughout - at this point it should be 'f*** no, never.  Maybe if all the other teams die'.

 

That would be class :lol:

 

"England winning the World Cup? Maybe....maybe if all the other teams die...The Sun."

 

:lol:

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Mike

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You're a Tigers fan? :lol: tough life

 

Lions fan too. My whole fucking sporting life sucks.

 

On top of that, I live in Detroit.

 

Great stuff.

 

:lol:

At least you support your local teams. Not the fucking Yankees and Cowboys.

 

Nothing wrong with being a Yankees fan!

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Mike

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Looking forward to all the links about how America instantly loses its skin-deep interest in the World Cup.

 

We'll lose a lot, but there will be some new fans. It's a slow growth.

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summerof69

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Is El Tel doing a s*** Sinatra impression supposed to make me want to buy The Sun?

 

 

Isn't it more of an Elvis impression ? Considering it is a cover of an Elvis song .

 

Maybe if he was wearing a white suit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are right, and if i'm honest i also thought it was a Sinatra cover before i found out it was an Elvis song.

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Looking forward to all the links about how America instantly loses its skin-deep interest in the World Cup.

 

We'll lose a lot, but there will be some new fans. It's a slow growth.

 

I agree. You'll lose some of the casuals who are there in bars once every four years, but you'll have the hearts of all the young kids who saw Donovan's last minute winner, and they'll grow up to be real fans in the next decade.

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B-more Mag

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Not if you're from New York there isn't.

 

:lol: I don't mind foreign Yankee fans, tbh. More the merrier. Just be there when we're shit again.

 

Can I ask when that will be? I'd like to pass it along to the Orioles' front office.

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Mike

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Not if you're from New York there isn't.

 

:lol: I don't mind foreign Yankee fans, tbh. More the merrier. Just be there when we're shit again.

 

Can I ask when that will be? I'd like to pass it along to the Orioles' front office.

 

:lol: Man. Let me ask you, since you're an O's fan. This whole Tampa Bay actually being competitive in the AL East thing, it's killing you, right?

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Exiled in Texas

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It's much easier to develop your basketball skills in American than your football skills. They've got rims every where and street ball exists in every city. It's just like the Brazilians and how the kids play football on the streets. Any good, athletic American kid is drafted into his JV/Varsity basketball/american football teams and that's it, there's no chance to develop them into a good footballer. I also think the fact that they've got to be drafted and s***, and thus not allowing professional teams to develop their own talent from a young age (like 12 or 13, like it is in Europe) means the quality of the players is much lower than you'd expect from a country with such a large population and good sporting infrastructure.

 

 

I agree with this and disagree.  You're right that basetballs is played more on the streets (just kids outplaying) because there are rims all over - city courts and sububan driveways, and you're also right that Football is king. Most American kids first organised sport is soccer, and then as soon as they are old enough to play football or baseball off they go.  Often because the parents prefer that sport.

 

BUT....the US soccer infrastructure is immense and I would estimate that there are more kids playing club soccer in Dallas than in Newcastle. The amount of teams, coaches, leagues that are set up in TX is huge. My suburban town on the edge of DFW has 38,000 residents and our local youth soccer association has approx 2,500 kids playing year round. Similar in the surrounding towns/suburbs too.  And High School Soccer is very good in TX - with very few kids walking onto the team that do not play Club soccer (and that costs players $2K-5K per year depending on clubs chosen).

 

The difference between soccer in america and basketball or even football, is that it's only ever really played as an organised sport. You don't see kids having a kickabout in the street or the park, only official team "practices" or team games.  So the players learn formation and tactics but less so the personal skills developed by playing 1-on-1 with your mates.

 

I see a very different style of play between the High School varsity teams that are Hispanic/Mexican vs the White/Suburban. Hispanic players are very "me"-centric, always wanting to take on a player, when a pass to a team mate is a better option. They see, culture and value the individual skill. The white/suburban player is all about teamwork and spreading the ball around, not as much close in skill.  They value, team work and athletic ability. And the two team styles don't mix well. :-)  But, the one thing that neither team does is the kick/run or Long Ball approach which is good to see.

 

I predict that in 10-20 years, the USA will be a permanent fixture in the Quarter/Semi Finals as they will be churning out more quality players that end up in Europe playing for our top clubs.

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