Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 If England don't win the World Cup we should all sue Terry Venables, Harry Redknapp, Ian Wright and The Sun. EDIT: Michael Ballack being injured blessing in disguise for Germany? Dunno like, Khodeira hasn't done anything out of the ordinary and he is his replacement. Formation and tactics would have changed though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Loads of Flag waving Germans there,pointing in the air. This is why they can't be allowed to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Told you about Ozil, he's just so classy. Not been marked like which helps. Looked very assured though. Living up to the hype so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Bit laughable yeah. One of the best qualifying campaigns out of any nation & we're rubbish because of a draw with the USA. I don't get it, we put in a good shift. We were America's final, they won't up their game against Algeria or Slovenia like they did against us. Australia are doing their best right now to make Germany look good, they have been shocking. It's just the huge difference in the way the teams go about their play. Even if this game were still 0 - 0 the qulaity of play from Germany is just miles ahead of anything England was doing yesterday. I have no doubt that Germany would produce this type of football against USA too. England might also be winning this game 2 - o if it were them bu it would have been disjointed and unimpressive. Germany just look miles more confident and sure of themselves and what they are trying to do. Not getting those crosses past The Gooch. Shoot from distance. That's the trick against us. Funny you should say that. You're an Everton fan, am I wrong? I don't feel like I'm wrong here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 If England don't win the World Cup we should all sue Terry Venables, Harry Redknapp, Ian Wright and The Sun. EDIT: Michael Ballack being injured blessing in disguise for Germany? Dunno like, Khodeira hasn't done anything out of the ordinary and he is his replacement. Formation and tactics would have changed though? Nah they'd have gone with this all along I think, just take out Khedira and slot Ballack in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Told you about Ozil, he's just so classy. Not been marked like which helps. Looked very assured though. Living up to the hype so far. Oh aye he's being gifted that space in between the defence and midfield - but so far he's taking advantage of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Told you about Ozil, he's just so classy. Easy to see all the defenders with his fish eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Bit laughable yeah. One of the best qualifying campaigns out of any nation & we're rubbish because of a draw with the USA. I don't get it, we put in a good shift. We were America's final, they won't up their game against Algeria or Slovenia like they did against us. Australia are doing their best right now to make Germany look good, they have been shocking. It's just the huge difference in the way the teams go about their play. Even if this game were still 0 - 0 the qulaity of play from Germany is just miles ahead of anything England was doing yesterday. I have no doubt that Germany would produce this type of football against USA too. England might also be winning this game 2 - o if it were them bu it would have been disjointed and unimpressive. Germany just look miles more confident and sure of themselves and what they are trying to do. Not getting those crosses past The Gooch. Shoot from distance. That's the trick against us. Funny you should say that. You're an Everton fan, am I wrong? I don't feel like I'm wrong here. I was getting at the fact you were saying the trick against your lot is to shoot from range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Germany play the better football, but if we were to meet them in the second round there would be no clear favourite like some would have you believe. After their qualifying campaign, I don't know how anybody can say Argentina are better than England. Spain and Brazil are the only teams in this competition who are miles ahead of England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Told you about Ozil, he's just so classy. Easy to see all the defenders with his fish eyes. He has got some shit scary mincers on him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 If England don't win the World Cup we should all sue Terry Venables, Harry Redknapp, Ian Wright and The Sun. EDIT: Michael Ballack being injured blessing in disguise for Germany? Dunno like, Khodeira hasn't done anything out of the ordinary and he is his replacement. Formation and tactics would have changed though? Nah don't think so. Ballack isn't so much of his old barnstorming self these days for Jormany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Told you about Ozil, he's just so classy. Easy to see all the defenders with his fish eyes. He can actually see around the wall when he takes free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Bit laughable yeah. One of the best qualifying campaigns out of any nation & we're rubbish because of a draw with the USA. I don't get it, we put in a good shift. We were America's final, they won't up their game against Algeria or Slovenia like they did against us. Australia are doing their best right now to make Germany look good, they have been shocking. It's just the huge difference in the way the teams go about their play. Even if this game were still 0 - 0 the qulaity of play from Germany is just miles ahead of anything England was doing yesterday. I have no doubt that Germany would produce this type of football against USA too. England might also be winning this game 2 - o if it were them bu it would have been disjointed and unimpressive. Germany just look miles more confident and sure of themselves and what they are trying to do. Not getting those crosses past The Gooch. Shoot from distance. That's the trick against us. Funny you should say that. You're an Everton fan, am I wrong? I don't feel like I'm wrong here. I was getting at the fact you were saying the trick against your lot is to shoot from range. I think it is, tbh. Defenders sort of have their shit together in the box, but right outside is a lawless wasteland sometimes. It's not as if England and USA are going to meet up again, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Germany play the better football, but if we were to meet them in the second round there would be no clear favourite like some would have you believe. After their qualifying campaign, I don't know how anybody can say Argentina are better than England. Spain and Brazil are the only teams in this competition who are miles ahead of England. Better opposition in the South American qualifiers tbh, also think people are underestimating Maradona as a manager just because of some press conference antics and so on. And England only sound like world beaters because of how popular the PL is all over the world, you have heard of all of England's players. But that doesn't mean they're automatically better than the ones in the Bundesliga for instance. You have the players on paper to do really well, but you're not a team. Like Newcastle in the relegation season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Bit laughable yeah. One of the best qualifying campaigns out of any nation & we're rubbish because of a draw with the USA. I don't get it, we put in a good shift. We were America's final, they won't up their game against Algeria or Slovenia like they did against us. Australia are doing their best right now to make Germany look good, they have been shocking. It's just the huge difference in the way the teams go about their play. Even if this game were still 0 - 0 the qulaity of play from Germany is just miles ahead of anything England was doing yesterday. I have no doubt that Germany would produce this type of football against USA too. England might also be winning this game 2 - o if it were them bu it would have been disjointed and unimpressive. Germany just look miles more confident and sure of themselves and what they are trying to do. Not getting those crosses past The Gooch. Shoot from distance. That's the trick against us. Funny you should say that. You're an Everton fan, am I wrong? I don't feel like I'm wrong here. I was getting at the fact you were saying the trick against your lot is to shoot from range. I think it is, tbh. Defenders sort of have their shit together in the box, but right outside is a lawless wasteland sometimes. It's not as if England and USA are going to meet up again, though. Oh we'll meet up. Next time, it's personal. Like, really, really personal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 What did you make of last night btw Mike? How did you rate your performance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Wish we could play like Germany, got the players to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Is the difference some people referring to really going to be made in the form of gareth fooking barry? I think England were very unlucky yesterday, because Heskey on the whole ended up playing better than most, and also Milner and SWP were awful on the left. Pretty much sets things up perfectly for Capello to resort to keeping Heskey upfront, shunting Gerrard out left and playing Barry in the centre with Lampard. With the excellent performances Rooney had at Man U upfront alone. I find it extraordinary that the same hasn't been tried for England, with Barry holding and Gerrard and Lampard behind Rooney. Capello has showed no evidence that he has even considered this. Not a good sign at all. I feel that setup would bring the best football from England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 5live now is hillarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Germany play the better football, but if we were to meet them in the second round there would be no clear favourite like some would have you believe. After their qualifying campaign, I don't know how anybody can say Argentina are better than England. Spain and Brazil are the only teams in this competition who are miles ahead of England. On paper, you are right. But realistically, I can't see us beating Germany when it matters. Absolutely vital that we thump Algeria and Slovenia by a wide margin and leave the Yanks to deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 5live now is hillarious wassup? Alan Green disagreeing with people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Fwiw I think we'll comprehensively beat Algeria 3-0. Still, if that happened, wouldn't expect free-flowing football as we're just not going to get that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Germany play the better football, but if we were to meet them in the second round there would be no clear favourite like some would have you believe. After their qualifying campaign, I don't know how anybody can say Argentina are better than England. Spain and Brazil are the only teams in this competition who are miles ahead of England. Does qualifying play that much of a part in how the actual tournament pans out though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Got to be said though, Australia's defence is seriously shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Germany play the better football, but if we were to meet them in the second round there would be no clear favourite like some would have you believe. After their qualifying campaign, I don't know how anybody can say Argentina are better than England. Spain and Brazil are the only teams in this competition who are miles ahead of England. Does qualifying play that much of a part in how the actual tournament pans out though? Example soon to be illustrated: Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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