Thespence Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Zonal Marking (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/19/england-0-0-algeria-tactics/) making a case for playing Carrick. Disappointingly, Capello had a warning about this three months ago. England’s friendly against Egypt at Wembley saw them playing a North African side that used a 3-4-2-1 formation. They had less possession of the ball and were deservedly 0-1 down at half-time, when Michael Carrick came on and was by far the best player on the pitch. He transformed the game, resulting in a 3-1 England win – he would have been perfect tonight. The case for Carrick’s inclusion has been argued on this site before and doesn’t need to be repeated, but some quotes from Xabi Alonso this week made for interesting reading: “John Terry, Stevie Gerrard and Wayne Rooney are the obvious names when you think of the important players for England…if they are on top of their game and if Carrick plays, because for me he is a top player, then England will have a chance. If Carrick plays for the national team the way that he does for Manchester United, then it would be very good news for England. I think that he could easily fit in the Spanish system because I really like the way he plays. He reads the game so well, he is always ahead of what is going to happen and he is always in the right position. When he gets the ball, he plays it easy and he is available to his team-mates all the time. For me, he has the profile to play for Barcelona or any of the Spanish teams. He would also be very complimentary to Stevie.” England plainly can’t even vaguely control a game with two central midfielders – so there’s a need for a third, and that third man is Carrick. He is alarmingly off-form at club level, but should that matter if the player is being brought in to play a specific role in the side to bring the best out of others? Capello clearly doesn’t think so, considering Heskey’s place in the side. The team could do with a bit of Wallsend in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Zonal Marking (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/19/england-0-0-algeria-tactics/) making a case for playing Carrick. Disappointingly, Capello had a warning about this three months ago. England’s friendly against Egypt at Wembley saw them playing a North African side that used a 3-4-2-1 formation. They had less possession of the ball and were deservedly 0-1 down at half-time, when Michael Carrick came on and was by far the best player on the pitch. He transformed the game, resulting in a 3-1 England win – he would have been perfect tonight. The case for Carrick’s inclusion has been argued on this site before and doesn’t need to be repeated, but some quotes from Xabi Alonso this week made for interesting reading: “John Terry, Stevie Gerrard and Wayne Rooney are the obvious names when you think of the important players for England…if they are on top of their game and if Carrick plays, because for me he is a top player, then England will have a chance. If Carrick plays for the national team the way that he does for Manchester United, then it would be very good news for England. I think that he could easily fit in the Spanish system because I really like the way he plays. He reads the game so well, he is always ahead of what is going to happen and he is always in the right position. When he gets the ball, he plays it easy and he is available to his team-mates all the time. For me, he has the profile to play for Barcelona or any of the Spanish teams. He would also be very complimentary to Stevie.” England plainly can’t even vaguely control a game with two central midfielders – so there’s a need for a third, and that third man is Carrick. He is alarmingly off-form at club level, but should that matter if the player is being brought in to play a specific role in the side to bring the best out of others? Capello clearly doesn’t think so, considering Heskey’s place in the side. --------Rooney---------- J.Cole-Lampard-Gerrard ----Barry---Carrick------ A.Cole-Terry-Upson-Glen ---------James----------- Either that or we throw in Milner as a Maradona/Jonas style wing back for laughs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Jurgen Klinsmann really does have one of the most bizarre voices ever. Sounds like a little American child is trying to escape from his German body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Zonal Marking (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/19/england-0-0-algeria-tactics/) making a case for playing Carrick. Disappointingly, Capello had a warning about this three months ago. England’s friendly against Egypt at Wembley saw them playing a North African side that used a 3-4-2-1 formation. They had less possession of the ball and were deservedly 0-1 down at half-time, when Michael Carrick came on and was by far the best player on the pitch. He transformed the game, resulting in a 3-1 England win – he would have been perfect tonight. The case for Carrick’s inclusion has been argued on this site before and doesn’t need to be repeated, but some quotes from Xabi Alonso this week made for interesting reading: “John Terry, Stevie Gerrard and Wayne Rooney are the obvious names when you think of the important players for England…if they are on top of their game and if Carrick plays, because for me he is a top player, then England will have a chance. If Carrick plays for the national team the way that he does for Manchester United, then it would be very good news for England. I think that he could easily fit in the Spanish system because I really like the way he plays. He reads the game so well, he is always ahead of what is going to happen and he is always in the right position. When he gets the ball, he plays it easy and he is available to his team-mates all the time. For me, he has the profile to play for Barcelona or any of the Spanish teams. He would also be very complimentary to Stevie.” England plainly can’t even vaguely control a game with two central midfielders – so there’s a need for a third, and that third man is Carrick. He is alarmingly off-form at club level, but should that matter if the player is being brought in to play a specific role in the side to bring the best out of others? Capello clearly doesn’t think so, considering Heskey’s place in the side. --------Rooney---------- J.Cole-Lampard-Gerrard ----Barry---Carrick------ A.Cole-Terry-Upson-Glen Either that or we throw in Milner as a Maradona/Jonas style wing back for laughs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Zonal Marking (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/19/england-0-0-algeria-tactics/) making a case for playing Carrick. Disappointingly, Capello had a warning about this three months ago. England’s friendly against Egypt at Wembley saw them playing a North African side that used a 3-4-2-1 formation. They had less possession of the ball and were deservedly 0-1 down at half-time, when Michael Carrick came on and was by far the best player on the pitch. He transformed the game, resulting in a 3-1 England win – he would have been perfect tonight. The case for Carrick’s inclusion has been argued on this site before and doesn’t need to be repeated, but some quotes from Xabi Alonso this week made for interesting reading: “John Terry, Stevie Gerrard and Wayne Rooney are the obvious names when you think of the important players for England…if they are on top of their game and if Carrick plays, because for me he is a top player, then England will have a chance. If Carrick plays for the national team the way that he does for Manchester United, then it would be very good news for England. I think that he could easily fit in the Spanish system because I really like the way he plays. He reads the game so well, he is always ahead of what is going to happen and he is always in the right position. When he gets the ball, he plays it easy and he is available to his team-mates all the time. For me, he has the profile to play for Barcelona or any of the Spanish teams. He would also be very complimentary to Stevie.” England plainly can’t even vaguely control a game with two central midfielders – so there’s a need for a third, and that third man is Carrick. He is alarmingly off-form at club level, but should that matter if the player is being brought in to play a specific role in the side to bring the best out of others? Capello clearly doesn’t think so, considering Heskey’s place in the side. Yet again, this ignores the fact that no one wanted the ball, control it when they received it or use it to any great effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Zonal Marking (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/19/england-0-0-algeria-tactics/) making a case for playing Carrick. Disappointingly, Capello had a warning about this three months ago. England’s friendly against Egypt at Wembley saw them playing a North African side that used a 3-4-2-1 formation. They had less possession of the ball and were deservedly 0-1 down at half-time, when Michael Carrick came on and was by far the best player on the pitch. He transformed the game, resulting in a 3-1 England win – he would have been perfect tonight. The case for Carrick’s inclusion has been argued on this site before and doesn’t need to be repeated, but some quotes from Xabi Alonso this week made for interesting reading: “John Terry, Stevie Gerrard and Wayne Rooney are the obvious names when you think of the important players for England…if they are on top of their game and if Carrick plays, because for me he is a top player, then England will have a chance. If Carrick plays for the national team the way that he does for Manchester United, then it would be very good news for England. I think that he could easily fit in the Spanish system because I really like the way he plays. He reads the game so well, he is always ahead of what is going to happen and he is always in the right position. When he gets the ball, he plays it easy and he is available to his team-mates all the time. For me, he has the profile to play for Barcelona or any of the Spanish teams. He would also be very complimentary to Stevie.” England plainly can’t even vaguely control a game with two central midfielders – so there’s a need for a third, and that third man is Carrick. He is alarmingly off-form at club level, but should that matter if the player is being brought in to play a specific role in the side to bring the best out of others? Capello clearly doesn’t think so, considering Heskey’s place in the side. Yet again, this ignores the fact that no one wanted the ball, control it when they received it or use it to any great effect. It's just confusing really. These aren't the finer details we're talking about, it is the fundamental ability to pass, control, and move. It's honestly frightening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Pleasure to watch Ghana with their free flowing football, players taking on players, no fear of having a shot from range.. all good except they tend to go to sleep at the back from time to time. I too have enjoyed watching Ghana, North Korea strangely enough is another who I'm looking forward to watching again and Chile... Chile were excellent as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 --------Rooney---------- J.Cole-Lampard-Gerrard ----Barry---Carrick------ A.Cole-Terry-Upson-Glen ---------James----------- Either that or we throw in Milner as a Maradona/Jonas style wing back for laughs. Would love to see that line up. I wont be suprised atall to see us start with the exact same team as the last couple games though. Depends how much Capello believes our problem is in our mentality, moreso than anything being wrong with the system thats been reasonably sucessful for us up till the world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Yet again, this ignores the fact that no one wanted the ball, control it when they received it or use it to any great effect. It's just confusing really. These aren't the finer details we're talking about, it is the fundamental ability to pass, control, and move. It's honestly frightening. I know everyone wanks on about the ball. I have endlessly. But our overhit crosses were shocking. Gerrard tested the goalkeeper in the first few minutes, when trying to loop over a cross for Heskey who i dont think had even made it into the area yet. Now thats not normal. I cant remember seeing Gerrard hit a pass that bad for liverpool in a long long time. Then you have the cutback for lampard that was awful. Let alone the two shots he had in the same half that would still have gone over had there been 8 goals stacked on top of one another. The shots that we kept down had no power behind them atall. Seems to me the pitch/ball is one of the reasons we cant control it. Lampard twice had chances in the area...the one he caused a save from & one from a corner. Where he just misjudged the bounce & it ended up behind him. These are to many coincidences. They dont seem able to handle the ball well. Far worse so than they did against USA even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 There should only be one of either Lampard or Gerrard out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Republica Del Mundial! The Mexican channel girls are back! The best part of this World Cup by a mile. I couldn't f***ing wait for the game to end. Germany is now Mexico, Mexico is Paraguay, and Mexico is Team USA. You must be thrilled Mike. Mexico is perfect, man. USA top just makes it seem excessive. Paraguay top nice on Argentina, though. Still. Mexico, man. Get some picures and video's up! VAMOS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 There should only be one of either Lampard or Gerrard out there. If we are playing with two strikers then I agree. But you can accommodate both of them if you have Carrick & Barry on defensive duty, and three attacking midfielders + Rooney. On paper, that is the best England XI I think. In reality, they will turn into five Nicky Butts so you might be better off sticking with a 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Republica Del Mundial! The Mexican channel girls are back! The best part of this World Cup by a mile. I couldn't f***ing wait for the game to end. Germany is now Mexico, Mexico is Paraguay, and Mexico is Team USA. You must be thrilled Mike. Mexico is perfect, man. USA top just makes it seem excessive. Paraguay top nice on Argentina, though. Still. Mexico, man. Get some picures and video's up! VAMOS! The fan in the white shirt has them all beat, I think. She might be 17, though. So I feel bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Cameroun - Denmark, can't wait now, off from work at 19:15 and home to cold beers and barbecue and hopefully 3 points... Hope you win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Republica Del Mundial! The Mexican channel girls are back! The best part of this World Cup by a mile. I couldn't f***ing wait for the game to end. Germany is now Mexico, Mexico is Paraguay, and Mexico is Team USA. You must be thrilled Mike. Mexico is perfect, man. USA top just makes it seem excessive. Paraguay top nice on Argentina, though. Still. Mexico, man. Get some picures and video's up! VAMOS! The fan in the white shirt has them all beat, I think. She might be 17, though. So I feel bad. If there's grass on the wicket.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Republica Del Mundial! The Mexican channel girls are back! The best part of this World Cup by a mile. I couldn't f***ing wait for the game to end. Germany is now Mexico, Mexico is Paraguay, and Mexico is Team USA. You must be thrilled Mike. Mexico is perfect, man. USA top just makes it seem excessive. Paraguay top nice on Argentina, though. Still. Mexico, man. Get some picures and video's up! VAMOS! The fan in the white shirt has them all beat, I think. She might be 17, though. So I feel bad. http://leighsseeds.com/pedo-bear-cake.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Fuck off, Kaz. She's probably 18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 People in...what the hell kind of costume is that, on Univision. Some real Bumble Bee man shit going on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Did you see her, Chicago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I used to work for Univision... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 The security on this show has be to all ex special forces or something. I've never seen Spanish men so well behaved while surrounded by beautiful women. There must be like, AK's on the other side of the cameras. The only one acting appropriately is the headcase host. It can't be like this in the offices, Village. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Did you see her, Chicago? Are we talking about this Argentina girl on the right? I'm still not sure anyone beats Paraguay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 The security on this show has be to all ex special forces or something. I've never seen Spanish men so well behaved while surrounded by beautiful women. There must be like, AK's on the other side of the cameras. The only one acting appropriately is the headcase host. It can't be like this in the offices, Village. Even the people at the offices are like super-hot, felt like an untermensch during my time there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Did you see her, Chicago? Are we talking about this Argentina girl on the right? I'm still not sure anyone beats Paraguay. She's got a glitter USA shirt on. The producers of the show, man. They are A++. They saw her in the crowd, took her in the back, cut her shirt in half and put her behind the main girls. Guarantee you'll see her. Brunette with her hair on the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 The security on this show has be to all ex special forces or something. I've never seen Spanish men so well behaved while surrounded by beautiful women. There must be like, AK's on the other side of the cameras. The only one acting appropriately is the headcase host. It can't be like this in the offices, Village. Even the people at the offices are like super-hot, felt like an untermensch during my time there. What an outstanding organization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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