Optimistic Nut Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 So what's the craic with Spain's group? If Switzerland win by two does that mean they're guaranteed to go through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 who is playing today worth watching ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Look at Stuart Hall's bitty about the S. Africa/France game from the RT: Hello folks. It's the Frank Ribery show. I want the French winger in my team, as I've said before, but I want South Africa to win. I once went to the townships in Cape Town. Not a place for tourists, usually, but I like to poke my nose into places it shouldn't be. My reception was hostile. I was ordered first to the witch doctor, who pronounced me half-dead. The cure was concocted from ravens' wings, tigers' teeth, crocodile fingers, iron filings and mercury. I left five pounds lighter and gave my bottle to the first patient in the queue outside. Which made him happy but not as happy as the rest when I dispensed 200 Silk Cut. I was instantly invited to their homes and listened to stories of the miracles Mandela would perform. The day passed, happiness mixed with misery. As I left, I observed a knackered Ford Cortina with the sign "We'll Never Walk Alone". I stopped the car by battering on its roof. The passengers were terrified by this insane daytripper. I embraced them - Liverpool FC supporters. I gave them my last fags, a handful of rand and a blessing. They can't afford a ticket, so, for them, the hand of victory, not the hand of Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 So what's the craic with Spain's group? If Switzerland win by two does that mean they're guaranteed to go through? Aye, because then if Spain beat Chile by even just 1 goal, Chile's goal difference becomes inferior. If Chile/Spain draw or if Chile beat Spain then Switzerland would still qualify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 So what's the craic with Spain's group? If Switzerland win by two does that mean they're guaranteed to go through? Aye, because then if Spain beat Chile by even just 1 goal, Chile's goal difference becomes inferior. If Chile/Spain draw or if Chile beat Spain then Switzerland would still qualify. Looking dodgy for Chile then which is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Ah, balls, just been talking about this in the other thread. Needless to say, howay Honduras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 who is playing today worth watching ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/ Argentina and France games for me today. Then England game, Germany game, Italy game, Denmark/Japan, Portugal/Brazil and Chile/Spain. What a cracking four days ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 aint it just!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Get in, I'll be able to see England's 2nd round match. If... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 i think portugal will do em! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Well, Brazil will probably be resting players so Portugal have a chance. I wouldn't have thought Portugal could beat even an under-strength Brazil team, if it wasn't for such a convincing display yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 just got a feeling they will beat em 1-0 . but i think there will be a lot of canceling each other out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Portugal won't get a sniff if Brazil put out a full strength team. They only ever concede goals when they're comfortable and lose concentration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 If they won a game each then E could be used to determine who had the aggregate win. But that would be E and F wouldn't be needed. If England won 2-0 and lost 0-2 then E wouldn't apply. I think rule F is written badly, I believe it means ALL goals scored in ALL games (not just head to head). Isn't that C? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 If they won a game each then E could be used to determine who had the aggregate win. But that would be E and F wouldn't be needed. If England won 2-0 and lost 0-2 then E wouldn't apply. I think rule F is written badly, I believe it means ALL goals scored in ALL games (not just head to head). My reading is the last three clauses apply for when there are three teams who have equal points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 If they won a game each then E could be used to determine who had the aggregate win. But that would be E and F wouldn't be needed. If England won 2-0 and lost 0-2 then E wouldn't apply. I think rule F is written badly, I believe it means ALL goals scored in ALL games (not just head to head). Isn't that C? Nah, man. Not goal difference just total goals scored by the team in all group games. Which seems harsh, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 7am doesn't make sense without games on now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Oh. I've no idea, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Fuck it. As others have mentioned presumably it's just a catch-all set of rules that applies when there are more teams and games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Sorry if discussed but what happens if we draw 2-2 and USA draw 0-0? Someone in the pub last night said it goes to drawing lots. Suppose theres no real fair way of deciding by shots/cards etc so could be true Its correct mate. The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows: a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches; b) goal difference in all group matches; c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches. If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows: d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned; e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned; f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned; g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee. Does this clear it up? 1.goal difference in all group matches (applies in WC) 2.greater number of goals scored in all group matches (applies in WC) 3.greater number of points obtained in matches between the tied teams 4.goal difference in matches between the tied teams 5.greater number of goals scored in matches between the tied teams 6.drawing of lots (applies in WC), or a play-off (if approved by FIFA) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Like D) and E), F) Refers to goals scored in matches between the teams in stalemate. It can only come into effect if there are three teams involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Fuck it. As others have mentioned presumably it's just a catch-all set of rules that applies when there are more teams and games. Good shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 We're in 2010, yet something as important as getting to round 2 is determined by drawing lots? Thats absolutely shocking tbh. Surely they could use fair play records, world rankings or their record against the 1st placed team. Drawing lots is disgraceful. By the way, what scenario would see Spain finish 1st and Chile 2nd (assuming Switzerland beat Honduras)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Spain beats Chile 1-0 and Switzerland beats Honduras 1-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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