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Bit surprised gggg favours a rule which plays into the hands of the elite, considering his usual views on here.

 

An elite team should surely be finishing top 4.

 

It's horrible on the rare occasion it happens, but the defending champions should get priority over a team finishing 4th.

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Bit surprised gggg favours a rule which plays into the hands of the elite, considering his usual views on here.

 

It's just common sense to have the winners qualify over everybody else.

 

And having 5 Premier League teams, 1/4 of the league in is certainly favorable to the elite.

 

Giving the teams that qualify the previous year (more than likely the sides who get in every year) a path to entry which is impossible for the fourth placed team to influence (if they haven't qualified previously) is unfairly balanced towards the top clubs. I really don't see why winning a tournament you qualified for last year should have any bearing on qualifying for it this year. Completely outdated idea having the holders defend their trophy - their defence should start by making sure they qualify through the league, just like the World Cup winners' starts with making sure they get there.

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I wonder what Harry Redknapp's opinion is.

 

Look forward to his snide bitterness seeping through his quasi-dignified exterior.

 

"well we're disappointed, but we've had a good season, we weren't even competing for Europe when I took over... let alone disappointed to miss out on the Champions League... we knew the rules at the start of the season... even if they aren't fair, and should be changed retrospectively... but we knew 'em, we just got to move forward.. try and find some players, there's this one guy who has one year left on his contract we're looking at unsettling, his name is..."

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Bit surprised gggg favours a rule which plays into the hands of the elite, considering his usual views on here.

 

It's just common sense to have the winners qualify over everybody else.

 

And having 5 Premier League teams, 1/4 of the league in is certainly favorable to the elite.

 

Giving the teams that qualify the previous year (more than likely the sides who get in every year) a path to entry which is impossible for the fourth placed team to influence (if they haven't qualified previously) is unfairly balanced towards the top clubs. I really don't see why winning a tournament you qualified for last year should have any bearing on qualifying for it this year. Completely outdated idea having the holders defend their trophy - their defence should start by making sure they qualify through the league, just like the World Cup winners' starts with making sure they get there.

 

Sums up UEFA as a whole tbh.

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First thing UEFA should do is change the name just so we avoid this tedious "it's supposed to be Champions" shit every year. The competition has changed, get over it.

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First thing UEFA should do is change the name just so we avoid this tedious "it's supposed to be Champions" shit every year. The competition has changed, get over it.

 

Yep, doesn't make any sense that otherwise logical people still go on about this.

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First thing UEFA should do is change the name just so we avoid this tedious "it's supposed to be Champions" shit every year. The competition has changed, get over it.

 

2nd.  Get rid of the group stages and create knock-out only compeition.

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First thing UEFA should do is change the name just so we avoid this tedious "it's supposed to be Champions" s*** every year. The competition has changed, get over it.

 

2nd.  Get rid of the group stages and create knock-out only compeition.

and get rid of the seeding, if real madrid get barce in the first round, so be it.
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First thing UEFA should do is change the name just so we avoid this tedious "it's supposed to be Champions" s*** every year. The competition has changed, get over it.

 

2nd.  Get rid of the group stages and create knock-out only compeition.

and get rid of the seeding, if real madrid get barce in the first round, so be it.

 

:thup:

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What's the problem with seeding?

 

Seeding is good. Otherwise it'll be like the FA cup and teams equivalent to Cardiff will get to the final.

 

Then so be it.  Again it gives an unfair advantage towards the clubs in the richest/successful leagues.

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What's the problem with seeding?

 

Seeding is good. Otherwise it'll be like the FA cup and teams equivalent to Cardiff will get to the final.

 

How come that doesn't happen every year in the FA Cup and didn't happen in the old European Cup?

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What's the problem with seeding?

 

It's hugely favoured in terms of draws and finances towards the bigger team due to the coefficients etc. I don't see why a team should be "hamstrug" by what nation they come from, a league win is a league win IMO

 

Despite APOEL reaching the QFs they'll have earnt way less than any of the other QFs this season because they're not an attractive watch.

 

Different argument but the "prize money" in the CL is the main reason the FA/Waffa has turned too. So ridiculously overweighted it's untrue.

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What's the problem with seeding?

 

Seeding is good. Otherwise it'll be like the FA cup and teams equivalent to Cardiff will get to the final.

 

How come that doesn't happen every year in the FA Cup and didn't happen in the old European Cup?

 

It's seeding that makes it easy for the top clubs and harder for the smaller clubs.

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What's the problem with seeding?

 

Seeding is good. Otherwise it'll be like the FA cup and teams equivalent to Cardiff will get to the final.

 

How come that doesn't happen every year in the FA Cup and didn't happen in the old European Cup?

 

Would imagine there would have been a lot more random teams making it to the QFs/SFs, but eventually top teams will always make it to the final.

 

Surely seeding is more of an issue with regards to favouring "elite" clubs than the current qualification system? Not that I want seeding abolished.

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What's the problem with seeding?

 

Seeding is good. Otherwise it'll be like the FA cup and teams equivalent to Cardiff will get to the final.

 

How come that doesn't happen every year in the FA Cup and didn't happen in the old European Cup?

 

Would imagine there would have been a lot more random teams making it to the QFs/SFs, but eventually top teams will always make it to the final.

 

Surely seeding is more of an issue with regards to favouring "elite" clubs than the current qualification system? Not that I want seeding abolished.

 

Of course it is, yeah, and it should be abolished.

 

At the very least it should be gotten rid of once in the tournament proper.

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