James Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Moving to a new country where he can't speak the lingo yet might do him the world of good. Might help him grow up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Cheers, Baba. Well it looks like he is just a bit of a brat really. He is still very young, so hopefully as he continues to mature his behaviour should improve. Now you mention it, I do remember that he had issues with Benzema at Lyon. Maybe he feels like he should be more of a centrepiece of the team. Seems like the sort who wants to be the main man, with things centred around him. He'll certainly have more of this sort of opportunity at Newcastle, so it might suit him. He could be our Cassano, in that sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. If Ben Arfa scores half as many in his first season if he comes to us, than what Robinho did for City, then bring it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Robinho clearly didn't want to go there, and did so purely because of the money. Shit example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Regarding team spirit, we clearly have a very strong spirit within the team right now, and I think adding just one player who is possibly not as "plucky" shouldn't cause too much harm, especially as he is only young. Hopefully, the good feelings within the rest of the team should rub of him rather than the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Going down this line of thinking I guess James wouldn't have wanted Anelka when he joined Bolton. Which is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Going down this line of thinking I guess James wouldn't have wanted Anelka when he joined Bolton. Which is ridiculous. Or Okocha at Bolton, Dugarry at Birmingham, Cisse at Sunderland, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Recently our best teams have been those that contained a twat or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Robinho clearly didn't want to go there, and did so purely because of the money. Shit example. Nonetheless, name a success that wasn't built on team spirit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Moving to a new country where he can't speak the lingo yet might do him the world of good. Might help him grow up. Probably won't be able to piss of as many people if they can't understand what he's saying and he can't understand them too, so would defintiely be a good thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Robinho had no choice. He wanted to go to Chelsea, but City came with an insane bid which Chelsea could not match. He couldn't stay at Madrid as he had burned every conceivable bridge there. City essentially forced him to come to their club. Ben Arfa seems happy enough to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Robinho clearly didn't want to go there, and did so purely because of the money. Shit example. Nonetheless, name a success that wasn't built on team spirit... We're on about staying up man, not winning the fucking league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Recently our best teams have been those that contained a t*** or two. where did you stand on the bellamy debate again. (ducks) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Like he represents any sort of risk, man. He'll more than likely be worshipped here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Robinho clearly didn't want to go there, and did so purely because of the money. s*** example. Nonetheless, name a success that wasn't built on team spirit... We're on about staying up man, not winning the f***ing league. speak for yasel ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I'd rather be comfortable in this league and have a few twats that perform (like Bellamy) than watch us struggle to fight off relegation with nice guys like Raylor and Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 The key thing is to not have too many nutcases in your team. The odd one in a team who mostly have good guys, particularly those who are seen as the leaders, should be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Going down this line of thinking I guess James wouldn't have wanted Anelka when he joined Bolton. Which is ridiculous. Or Okocha at Bolton, Dugarry at Birmingham, Cisse at Sunderland, etc. Those early 2000 Bolton teams were atrocious. Okocha and Djorkaeff are what seperated them from other horrible newcomers who disappered back to the Championship, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Robinho clearly didn't want to go there, and did so purely because of the money. s*** example. Nonetheless, name a success that wasn't built on team spirit... We're on about staying up man, not winning the f***ing league. speak for yasel ! [email protected] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 N'Zogbia at Wigan is another example. Obviously a stepping stone, bit of a knobend, but is the difference between a safe mid-table side and a relegation candidate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 where did you stand on the bellamy debate again. (ducks) You don't need to duck, I thought he was a class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I can't believe having watched us consistently last season and throughout this pre-season people seem to think this squad can get by purely with a happy go lucky team spirit. We desperately need quality players. Absofuckinglutely. I don't think anyone will disagree. However, it is possible to have a different opinion on what will make a quality player for the team we've got. Talent, technique, skill, pace, flair. Team spirit doesn't do anything for any of those, and yet they're what we are missing in abundance. Ideally we want team spirit too, but quality always wins out in this league. I disagree. The winners in football always have team spirit. Teams with quality players that win nothing almost not. Robinho at Man City is a good case study. Robinho clearly didn't want to go there, and did so purely because of the money. s*** example. Nonetheless, name a success that wasn't built on team spirit... We're on about staying up man, not winning the f***ing league. speak for yasel ! [email protected] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 where did you stand on the bellamy debate again. (ducks) You don't need to duck, I thought he was a class player. sorry, was on the wind up, thought you wanted him out after souness-gate. must have been someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 The likes of Cantona were no saints at all talented players usually have some temper problems. Sir Bobby once said "we don't want them to be monks because monks don't play football" Ben Arfa will be something very amazing here and I for one can not wait to see that happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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