TaylorJ_01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 'leader of the magpies'. Like Hughton is some sort of crazy dictator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 To put our penny pinching further into perspective, Liverpool, in vast debt that far exceeds ours, just paid nearly 3m for a keeper that couldn't cut it in the Championship. I realise you were going for the opposite but that sounds like an endorsement of our policy more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 To put our penny pinching further into perspective, Liverpool, in vast debt that far exceeds ours, just paid nearly 3m for a keeper that couldn't cut it in the Championship. I realise you were going for the opposite but that sounds like an endorsement of our policy more than anything. i rather agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 That's the market value Luca is my point. We are looking to pay market value circa 1992. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 The market value for a player who couldn't cut it in the Championship should be £0 for Liverpool like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 He's not old enough for Milan anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 That's the market value Luca is my point. We are looking to pay market value circa 1992. Prices can't won't keep going up indefinitely. With the exception of, perhaps, Man City the majority of clubs don't have cash to piss away. Those that try are increasingly finding themselves very fucked very quickly. Our way of doing business is going to be the norm if it isn't already. Maybe we aren't offering enough money to get some of our targets and it might cause us to miss some of them, but if the alternative is spending money we don't have - particularly on players that may or may not be suited to English football - then I prefer our way over Liverpool's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Apparently (according to the OM forums) this was in L'Equipe this morning: The second attacker waited by OM happen it probably until next week . Yesterday , 18 hours, Marseille have started preparations for the reception of Lorient on Saturday . A game where "the three points are very important , " said Deschamps. For the third straight time , Hatem Ben Arfa dried training. The striker did not reappear at the training center Robert Louis - Dreyfus since his quarrel with Dassier last Thursday . It is more than ever decided to join Newcastle. Within forty- eight hours, his English dream could take shape . The OM has resumed contact with the leaders of the Magpies to ask them to reconsider their offer. This cons -proposal focuses on several details , including how the purchase option . Nothing insurmountable , then . What is the general consensus on the OM board do they think he will join us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 fuck me, we'll be at 450 pages before the transfer deadline passes and we dont sign him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I can't see him getting a starting spot week in week out at Milan, whereas he would do here. Maybe that's the great appeal for him, at least for the time being? I read that he mentioned he'd be played in his preferred position here and would undoubtedly be our 'star player', perhaps that's how he wants it? I reckon he could thrive on being the big fish in the preverbial small pond, rather than a squad player at a bigger club. Ah, who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 To put our penny pinching further into perspective, Liverpool, in vast debt that far exceeds ours, just paid nearly 3m for a keeper that couldn't cut it in the Championship. more fool them really, tbh. I can't imagine we've just not bothered talking to Marseille about this since his arrival in town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 RE: Signing Ben Arfa in general... He's a left winger, isn't he? Our best attack option for most of the last two seasons has been the combination of Enrique and Jonas down the left flank. While signing highly rated youngsters is a tactic I'm happy the club are following through on, is signing Ben Arfa really a priority? He's also clearly got some personality issues. We haven't dealt with flouncy twats very well in recent years and I can't see that changing under Hughton. If we had a man manager in the SBR mold then maybe I'd say, "why not?" but as it stands I don't think someone like Ben Arfa is necessarily someone we need around the club... or we need to hire a manager who could handle such players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 His preferred position is behind the striker apparently. If you think a bad attitude would out way what a player like Ben Arfa could add to our team then you can't have watched the Manure game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 That's the market value Luca is my point. We are looking to pay market value circa 1992. Prices can't won't keep going up indefinitely. With the exception of, perhaps, Man City the majority of clubs don't have cash to piss away. Those that try are increasingly finding themselves very fucked very quickly. Our way of doing business is going to be the norm if it isn't already. Maybe we aren't offering enough money to get some of our targets and it might cause us to miss some of them, but if the alternative is spending money we don't have - particularly on players that may or may not be suited to English football - then I prefer our way over Liverpool's. Absolutely, the likes of Everton, Villa, Liverpool - even ManU and Spurs this summer are cutting their cloth in a different manner. Maybe we are going too extreme, but if (big if time) we stay up this season and next you will see a Newcastle in rude financial shape who no longer pay inflated wages for inflated egos and are seen as a good choice for promising players. Football as we knew it 5 years ago is dead, and thank fuck for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 RE: Signing Ben Arfa in general... He's a left winger, isn't he? Our best attack option for most of the last two seasons has been the combination of Enrique and Jonas down the left flank. While signing highly rated youngsters is a tactic I'm happy the club are following through on, is signing Ben Arfa really a priority? He's also clearly got some personality issues. We haven't dealt with flouncy twats very well in recent years and I can't see that changing under Hughton. If we had a man manager in the SBR mold then maybe I'd say, "why not?" but as it stands I don't think someone like Ben Arfa is necessarily someone we need around the club... or we need to hire a manager who could handle such players. Back down the snake to page 2 for you where those questions were first asked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think that approach is ludicrous. Tv money will keep increasing and so will transfer fees. Spending zero will never become the norm in football like it is at NUFC. If that's the way you prefer business to be done, fair enough. I'd rather have a successful team and manageable debt than a shit one with no debt. If we don't sign someone with craft in midfield, we will be relegated and that will cost the club more. Ashley didn't get it last time and hasn't learned his lesson it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Seems it would be HBA + 4 mill.. hmm would they go for that ? It's not up to them If anything, Ben Arfa seems like the kind of person that would reject the move just because it'd benefit Marseille. People can skirt around the issue and be as negative as they like ("He's never going to come to us. NOOOO. Excuse me while I go slit my wrists..."), he seems pretty hellbent on coming here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 RE: Signing Ben Arfa in general... He's a left winger, isn't he? Our best attack option for most of the last two seasons has been the combination of Enrique and Jonas down the left flank. While signing highly rated youngsters is a tactic I'm happy the club are following through on, is signing Ben Arfa really a priority? He's also clearly got some personality issues. We haven't dealt with flouncy twats very well in recent years and I can't see that changing under Hughton. If we had a man manager in the SBR mold then maybe I'd say, "why not?" but as it stands I don't think someone like Ben Arfa is necessarily someone we need around the club... or we need to hire a manager who could handle such players. Back down the snake to page 2 for you where those questions were first asked Question about where he plays was, other than that I just a lot of masturbation. Do I gather you think he would be a good signing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Another article saying it should be resolved soon: http://www.lephoceen.fr/depeches-OM/vers-la-fin-du-feuilleton-ben-arfa-20809 Towards the end of the series Ben Arfa? on 17/08/2010 at 10:09 While it was once again absent from practice Monday, Hatem Ben Arfa is currently in a situation of deadlock with OM. The midfielder does not want to play or train with the club Phocaean and request a transfer to Newcastle, but the loan fee proposed by the English team does not appear to meet the leaders Olympians. However, Jean-Claude Dassier, who wants to play the card of appeasement (read here), told CMJ that the series would be soon end: "In two days maximum, will be resolved. We will explain everything and then" he said. Ben Arfa, missing training since last Thursday, will be punished as provided in the Rules of the LFP due to a "reduction of 1/30th of the monthly fixed salary per day of absence." After ten days, the club is entitled to request the suspension of the player's contract: "In ten days, if the player was not available to his club, it may request the suspension effects of the contract to the law. " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Do Celtic still want Harper? Sell him to celtic for £2.5m, get Given on back on loan and offer Marseille the money from the sale of Harper with another £2m at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest benarfaNUFC Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 RE: Signing Ben Arfa in general... He's a left winger, isn't he? Our best attack option for most of the last two seasons has been the combination of Enrique and Jonas down the left flank. While signing highly rated youngsters is a tactic I'm happy the club are following through on, is signing Ben Arfa really a priority? He's also clearly got some personality issues. We haven't dealt with flouncy twats very well in recent years and I can't see that changing under Hughton. If we had a man manager in the SBR mold then maybe I'd say, "why not?" but as it stands I don't think someone like Ben Arfa is necessarily someone we need around the club... or we need to hire a manager who could handle such players. Ben arfa is 10 (baggio kaka ....)stat assists = goal I'm a really big idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 OH NOES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest LukeT Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 When was this 2 days maximum quote originally from? Sunday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 HOLY CRAP A FOOTBALL VIDEO!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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