TRon Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think I'd just play Sissoko, Anita and Marveaux. What's the harm? I think he'll play Gosling, though. I think he might play Marveax so when we get beat we have a ready made scapegoat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Who would you play in central midfield out of Tiote, Sissoko, Anita, Marv, Bigi and Gosling (the assumption that everyone was available). Anita/Tiote-Sissoko ----Marv---- Depending on opponent. Not ideal - but I don't see the purpose of both Anita + Tiote together on the pitch with Sissoko, as we'll then have very little creativity on the ball. Sissoko HAS to play for me b/c of his brute strength and pace on the counter. He needs to get back to his box-2-box role through the middle IMO. Marv is the only guy in our squad capable of playing the #10 role able to pick out the pass, hit a decent free kick, and hell - put in a good cross when he's out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 In that case it's always Tiote-Sissoko-Marveaux. There's absolutely no way Anita should get picked ahead of Tiote right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not the worst match to miss tbh. This is the type of match where Tiote normally does really well at. Without him, our central midfield looks p*ss poor defensively. Without Cabaye it does. Without Tiote we keep the ball better. If Tiote was fit would you have chosen to drop him for this match? Who would you play in central midfield out of Tiote, Sissoko, Anita, Marv, Bigi and Gosling (the assumption that everyone was available). Depends who we're up against. Anita, Sissoko and Marveaux would be my pick most of the time at home with Tiote coming in away. I really don't think Tiote protects the defence as well as people think, but with no alternative he has to be there away from home most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Tiote isn't all about protecting. You would think there's some massive gulf in retaining possession between Anita and Tiote but there really isn't. Tiote's other abilities are a lot better than Anita's and that's why I would always play him. Anita can obviously get better but he's a passenger at times and we can't afford that luxury right now. That's when he's asked to be the main man in CM obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What other abilities? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Tiote is like a magnet for action. He must be close to making the most touches in the side and pass attempts/successful. He's always involved. Anita sometimes drifts in and out. I dont' want to say that he hides but sometimes he's a passenger. FWIW Tiote is always in the driving seat, whether good or bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Tiote is like a magnet for action. He must be close to making the most touches in the side and pass attempts/successful. He's always involved. Anita sometimes drifts in and out. I dont' want to say that he hides but sometimes he's a passenger. FWIW Tiote is always in the driving seat, whether good or bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What other abilities? Google is your friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I prefer to go on what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I prefer to go on what I've seen. Why ask then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Because I've no idea what 'other abilities' superior to Anita's you're referring to. Anita's a far better footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Tiote isn't all about protecting. You would think there's some massive gulf in retaining possession between Anita and Tiote but there really isn't. Tiote's other abilities are a lot better than Anita's and that's why I would always play him. Anita can obviously get better but he's a passenger at times and we can't afford that luxury right now. That's when he's asked to be the main man in CM obviously. I don't know what statistics there are for this, but it seems absolutely clear to me that Anita is much, much better at retaining the ball, moving the ball quickly and moving off the ball than Tiote. There won't be a "massive gulf" in the stats I guess, because Tiote's pass completion isn't too bad. But Anita does a much better job of those things I mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'd like to see Bigi given a chance to play. He won't be, mind. Didn't know he was injured. It'll be 4-4-2 with Anita and Sissoko. I'll be surprised if Marv is started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Tiote isn't all about protecting. You would think there's some massive gulf in retaining possession between Anita and Tiote but there really isn't. Tiote's other abilities are a lot better than Anita's and that's why I would always play him. Anita can obviously get better but he's a passenger at times and we can't afford that luxury right now. That's when he's asked to be the main man in CM obviously. I don't know what statistics there are for this, but it seems absolutely clear to me that Anita is much, much better at retaining the ball, moving the ball quickly and moving off the ball than Tiote. There won't be a "massive gulf" in the stats I guess, because Tiote's pass completion isn't too bad. But Anita does a much better job of those things I mentioned. Tiote simply gets lot more touches per game than Anita. Pass completion percentage is always similar while Tiote has a lot more attempts. Tiote is also great at tight spaces and has good technique for a defensive minded midifielder. Only thing that lets him down sometimes is that he can get even too confident in possession. Tiote in the form he's been the past few months is IMO easily one of our most important players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If Tiote has good technique for a DM fuck knows what you'd say about the likes of Parker, 04-08 Butt, Batty, Hamann, 02-04 Speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 We don't tend to look as good without Tiote, it must be said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Chelsea are a massive side like. Tiote is pretty strong in the air defensively for a CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Tiote's invaluable, without him our midfield just looks very very weak, he's our best cm now that cabayes gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Not his best game today, but he'll never hide and will always give his all, something we desperately lack in our side. He's our true captain, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I wish he would just fucking sit in front of the defence like the anchorman he is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I wish he would just f***ing sit in front of the defence like the anchorman he is It seems like it might be instruction but it's in Tiote's nature to take charge (for better or worse). If nobody wants to push forward, he'll give it a go. If nobody wants to play that tough forward ball, he'll give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Liked his celebration off the bench, he went mad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Manchester City are considering a summer move for Newcastle's Cheick Tiote. Manager Manuel Pellegrini wants a top quality defensive midfielder to bolster his squad and has been impressed by Tiote since his arrival in England. The 27-year-old Ivory Coast star is a fiery character who has drawn admiring glances from the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester United since signing from FC Twente in 2010. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2569244/Manuel-Pellegrini-plotting-summer-swoop-Toon-star-Cheick-Tiote-Saints-kid-Josh-Sims-impresses-United-Chelsea-Liverpool-Everton-win-race-Irish-prospect-Stephen-Kinsella-TRANSFER-COLUMN.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The media won't stop until they've linked all of our players to 'better' clubs, regardless of how good they actually are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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