Lotus Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 No, he had plenty of good games in the season we came 5th. You look silly saying otherwise. Hope he adapts and improves as it will benefit everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 He had a fair few against a couple of big sides and when teams didn't press him. Even in good form he'll never be what we need to progress. You play an out and out defensive midfielder under two basic conditions and a side looking to climb the table isn't one of them, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Yeah, im with Ronaldo. (again) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 you've not been saying he's not what we need to progress, you've been arguing that he's got no chance of ever becoming a passable PL midfielder again we all know he's not what we need to progress ffs full of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 At his best he's not what we need to progress. In the form he's shown over the last 18 months or so he should be back on the bench in Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 so you accept with a functioning team around him and some coaching he could make an adequate PL midfielder good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 At his best he'd do just fine in a team with no ambition, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 made for us then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 If his best form was here and we didn't have much better players anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Plenty of players have had a bad period coinciding with Tiote's loss of form, i.e. last season mainly. Not sure why he needs singling out. There's no doubt in my mind a Tiote at his best is a valuable addition to any squad in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 He needs singling out because he's a brainless idiot that costs us points and contributes nothing in a footballing sense. The rest generally do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 What doesn't help his cause is that his reputation precedes him and that players and referees know this, hence last season against *Everton when Fellaini hit the deck about 3 yards away from Tiote and the referee looks up and sees Tiote in the vicinity so automatically gives a free kick which subsequently is scored from. * - this is what i remember happening, don't remember Tiote actually putting in a daft challenge (on this occasion) He does fly into challenges recklessly far too often though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 context means nothing to tiote's form apparently - he's to be judged in total isolation - everyone take note Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Think its a combination of being found out a bit and being coached into something he's not. Thing is when he came he kept things simple and that was why he was so effective. I remember him being hassled by the Arsenal midfield and still being neat and tidy with the ball so no reason he can't get back to that. No was should he be in the side ahead of Anita at the moment though, he deserves his 1st team place. Is pretty much what I think. You can't just have physicality in your locker to cut the mustard as a starting top league midfielder. He can pass (simply) when under no real pressure / has his back to the opposition and can run / mark. That's really it. Somebody like Gattuso had so much more to his game apart from sole tenacity. No wonder the Dutch fans thought we were idiots for treating him like a 'demi god' initially. Mind, to his credit, he played like a king vs Liverpool in Pardews first game and he's been decent against the other bigger sides too, but I think his days here should be ending soon. Which Dutch fans? No need to rewrite history; he was fantastic when he first came in, and I for one back him to refind that level. Was it not on some Ajax forums after we signed Anita? I know I know.. Ajax fans.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Tiote's form has been waning for ages. Even when we finished 5th, I can only think of a few standout performances. It's been ever since Pardew said he could be the complete midfielder. He even started taking corners after that ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 context means nothing to tiote's form apparently - he's to be judged in total isolation - everyone take note Context? You're highlighting a season in which we finished 12th and totally disregarding the rest of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 He needs singling out because he's a brainless idiot that costs us points and contributes nothing in a footballing sense. The rest generally do. what a sensible post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Think its a combination of being found out a bit and being coached into something he's not. Thing is when he came he kept things simple and that was why he was so effective. I remember him being hassled by the Arsenal midfield and still being neat and tidy with the ball so no reason he can't get back to that. No was should he be in the side ahead of Anita at the moment though, he deserves his 1st team place. Is pretty much what I think. You can't just have physicality in your locker to cut the mustard as a starting top league midfielder. He can pass (simply) when under no real pressure / has his back to the opposition and can run / mark. That's really it. Somebody like Gattuso had so much more to his game apart from sole tenacity. No wonder the Dutch fans thought we were idiots for treating him like a 'demi god' initially. Mind, to his credit, he played like a king vs Liverpool in Pardews first game and he's been decent against the other bigger sides too, but I think his days here should be ending soon. Which Dutch fans? No need to rewrite history; he was fantastic when he first came in, and I for one back him to refind that level. Was it not on some Ajax forums after we signed Anita? I know I know.. Ajax fans.. Like basing your opinion on Ben Arfa on a mackem's insight on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Tiote's form has been waning for ages. Even when we finished 5th, I can only think of a few standout performances. It's been ever since Pardew said he could be the complete midfielder. He even started taking corners after that ffs. That is forgotten a lot of the time honesty felt we performed better more often with Cabaye and Guthrie. Although he did have some outstanding performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 context means nothing to tiote's form apparently - he's to be judged in total isolation - everyone take note Context? You're highlighting a season in which we finished 12th and totally disregarding the rest of his career. actually i'm not, but carry on it never usually stops you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He was absolutely dog shit last night. Should be nowhere near the starting 11 imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He should have one job, protect the back four. But Pardew's tactics and Tiote's own lack of common sense mean that's exactly the one thing he doesn't do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Awful player, furious he started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He was absolutely dog s*** last night. Should be nowhere near the starting 11 imo Why was he dogshit? You watched the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He was absolutely dog s*** last night. Should be nowhere near the starting 11 imo Why was he dogshit? You watched the game? Couldn't pass, couldn't tackle, slowed the game right down every time he got the ball and we were looking to build a bit of momentum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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