Yorkie Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Colo and MYM should never play together again after that Everton game The fuck, man? They had a stinker, that's all, imo. Absolutely no way we can decide that they're unsuited at this stage, imo. But they're our two best centre-backs and not playing them together means dropping one of them, which I'd just rather not do. Given how fucking gash we are when it comes to conceding goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Colo and MYM should never play together again after that Everton game No offence, but that's ridiculous. they don't work together simple as that a cb pairing is more than just simply the 2 most talented its the 2 best balanced and MYM and Colo don't compliment each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Colo and MYM should never play together again after that Everton game No offence, but that's ridiculous. they don't work together simple as that a cb pairing is more than just simply the 2 most talented its the 2 best balanced and MYM and Colo don't compliment each other. I'd rather we give our two best CBs more than 5 minutes to become settled with one another, tbh, as opposed to ditching the idea off the back of one game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Colo and MYM should never play together again after that Everton game No offence, but that's ridiculous. they don't work together simple as that a cb pairing is more than just simply the 2 most talented its the 2 best balanced and MYM and Colo don't compliment each other. (A) we don't know that, it's too soon to say and (B) the other options have glaring weaknesses and are almost certainly worse overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Colo and MYM should never play together again after that Everton game No offence, but that's ridiculous. they don't work together simple as that a cb pairing is more than just simply the 2 most talented its the 2 best balanced and MYM and Colo don't compliment each other. Except they've generally looked solid every other time they've been paired together. One nightmare performance against the most physical striker in the league isn't enough to scrap the partnership of our two best CBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 They've only like 11 matches together and that mostly along a new right back, backup left back and goalie. You'll find that it generally takes much more than that to form a solid back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm always worried about our lack of height when MYM & Colo play together. Hull exposed this quite a bit against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Taylor is only 2cm taller than Mapou. Granted he competes better in the air (probably). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I just think any conclusion based on Lukaku is stupid, Colo played worse against him and he dominates almost everyone. I really wish Pardew had just stuck with Mapou, and we would be talking about a much improved performance instead of whether Taylor should play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I just think any conclusion based on Lukaku is stupid, Colo played worse against him and he dominates almost everyone. I really wish Pardew had just stuck with Mapou, and we would be talking about a much improved performance instead of whether Taylor should play. You're forgetting the shambles the defence was against Hull, Colo in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I just think any conclusion based on Lukaku is stupid, Colo played worse against him and he dominates almost everyone. I really wish Pardew had just stuck with Mapou, and we would be talking about a much improved performance instead of whether Taylor should play. You're forgetting the shambles the defence was against Hull, Colo in particular. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 It's a tough one. MYM handled benteke far, far better than Taylor He did? Didn't Benteke only score from open play against one of them? And yes, I know Sissoko was marking him at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm just saying, if Taylor's on the pitch he's the one marking Benteke and I don't think he loses him, either. He certainly doesn't just step away from the herd of bodies like MYM did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm just saying, if Taylor's on the pitch he's the one marking Benteke and I don't think he loses him, either. He certainly doesn't just step away from the herd of bodies like MYM did. You don't know that man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 It's an opinion with a pretty solid basis. Listen, I think MYM has the potential to be better than Taylor is, and here's another opinion: I think he will be, by far, in time. That said, right now Taylor's better suited to PL football by a distance, and by far the better partner for Coloccini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Benteke did a lot more from open play against Taylor than he did against MYM. In the 2-1 last year, only shit finishing from Benteke stopped him from scoring a hatrick. Against MYM this year he did close to f*ck all outside of one corner which tbf Taylor might have stopped. But that is really irrelevant tbh, the end result was the same with both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 If one performance against Benteke in which he scored forms a large part of the argument in favour of playing MYM, it's a bloody weak argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 You want Taylor based on one incident during a match....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Me? What you on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 MYM's positioning is pretty bad. He's often using his pace to make up for mistakes in positioning. Doubt Pardew will make any changes in defence anyway. This isn't the game to put MYM back in. It could bury him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 As long as it's not Willo. Don't want to think about what Suarez will do to his nice hair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 FWIW, I've always thought that Taylor's marking from set-pieces is crap. I have no specific examples, simply because my memory for stuff like that is pretty shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 A lot of people on this forum talk like Taylor is crap at everything, even the things he's decent at. And say some shit like MYM not being much worse in that regard anyway so he should start. Load of bollocks. Reminiscent of the Cisse excuses at the start of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Oh look, College Dropout is here to re-write reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 NO Logic: Taylor's not even good in the air. MYM's only slightly shorter he's not much worse. Reality: MYM doesn't even mark opponents aerial threats. NO Logic: Steven Taylor makes blocks and last ditch tackles to make up for previous mistakes in positioning. MYM has a better footballing brain. Reality: MYM often uses his pace to make up for his poor positional play. And if not that, he'll run away from trouble/physical duels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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