Stu Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Id love to be able to see my career out here, but realistically that isnt going to happen. If this club carries on going in the right direction, which I believe it will do, they wont want me. In three or four years Ill be expected to leave. Im not going to hang around picking up my money. If Im not playing, Im one of those players who will move on. I hope its not too soon, I hope Ive got three or four years left here and Im going to work hard to try and make that happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 PS: His post-match comments from the Blues game were golden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 theres going to be an interview with him on football focus shortly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 on now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukeboxromeo Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 He looks very hungover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Overview, there wasn't much to it... Pardew doing a great job. That was his honest assessment on the Carroll move from a friends point of view. Wishes Carroll well as long as its not against NUFC. When he came up he knew he wanted to be a piece of success here. Passionate fans etc, seeing the stadium on the hill, thinks its unreal. Rafa Benitez thinks we'll miss Carroll (who he says is a good signing for Liverpool) but thinks we will replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 wrong thread I know but whilst we are on the topic did anyone keep watching and see the highlights of the Swansea - Coventry match. Swansea hit the bar three times within less than 5 seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Rafa Benitez thinks we'll miss Carroll (who he says is a good signing for Liverpool) but thinks we will replace him. The fuck is that maniac commenting on it for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Rafa Benitez thinks we'll miss Carroll (who he says is a good signing for Liverpool) but thinks we will replace him. The f*** is that maniac commenting on it for? Because he was asked on Football Focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 what was that maniac doing on there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 what was that maniac doing on there he was a guest. Refreshing change from their usual in-house dross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Overview, there wasn't much to it... Pardew doing a great job. That was his honest assessment on the Carroll move from a friends point of view. Wishes Carroll well as long as its not against NUFC. When he came up he knew he wanted to be a piece of success here. Passionate fans etc, seeing the stadium on the hill, thinks its unreal. Rafa Benitez thinks we'll miss Carroll (who he says is a good signing for Liverpool) but thinks we will replace him. Granted, it might all be guff and bluster, but Nolan definitely speaks like a club captain should do when he's in the media Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I know this won't be a popular view, but even if he ends the season on 15 Premiership goals (terrific return), ideally he's someone we really need to be selling. There are a whole bunch of reasons that when combined make perfect sense imo, e.g.: - His fitness is already borderline-appalling as it is, - He's nearing the big 3-0, when players tend to decline sharply, - He's very limited as a midfielder, in fact... - He's been a passenger for the majority of our games this season, carried by Tiote for the most part. - His value/stock this summer will be high due to the goals (e.g. £8m sale?), despite the possibility that... - This might be his purple patch, the peak he'll struggle to reach again, especially without Carroll here anymore. Furthermore, - if Tiote can carry him, then why not Ben Arfa, Ireland or Barton in attacking free roles? They're considerably more talented than Nolan. which leads to my next point, - if we spend the Carroll money on a decent pair of strikers and a winger, i.e. if we can get goals elsewhere, Nolan's importance is significantly reduced, and - depending on the type of strikers we'll get (if any), creativity rather than goals may become more important from central midfield. Having said this, I'll not be unhappy if he's still a fixture in our team next season. But even so, moving players on at the right time (i.e. before a significant decline) has always been a major failure at this club, ever since Keegan left (and he was class at being ruthless and getting rid of a player after he's served his purpose in order to improve the team and move the club forward). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 This season should be his last as a first choice starter If we get a top right sided player to replace Routledge next season 1st choice midfield should be New RM Barton Tiote Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I know this won't be a popular view, but even if he ends the season on 15 Premiership goals (terrific return), ideally he's someone we really need to be selling. There are a whole bunch of reasons that when combined make perfect sense imo, e.g.: - His fitness is already borderline-appalling as it is, - He's nearing the big 3-0, when players tend to decline sharply, - He's very limited as a midfielder, in fact... - He's been a passenger for the majority of our games this season, carried by Tiote for the most part. - His value/stock this summer will be high due to the goals (e.g. £8m sale?), despite the possibility that... - This might be his purple patch, the peak he'll struggle to reach again, especially without Carroll here anymore. Furthermore, - if Tiote can carry him, then why not Ben Arfa, Ireland or Barton in attacking free roles? They're considerably more talented than Nolan. which leads to my next point, - if we spend the Carroll money on a decent pair of strikers and a winger, i.e. if we can get goals elsewhere, Nolan's importance is significantly reduced, and - depending on the type of strikers we'll get (if any), creativity rather than goals may become more important from central midfield. Having said this, I'll not be unhappy if he's still a fixture in our team next season. But even so, moving players on at the right time (i.e. before a significant decline) has always been a major failure at this club, ever since Keegan left (and he was class at being ruthless and getting rid of a player after he's served his purpose in order to improve the team and move the club forward). I totally agree! He brings very little to pitch outside the box. He's carried by Tiote's excellence, which allows him to sneak into the opponent box. He could be a much better player if he wants to though. Some pundits in Norway have ridiculed Nolan's body, stating directly that he looks like a pub player. And I tend to agree. He's 30 soon and should take more responsibility for what he's eating. He's too fat which hurts his overall play (slow, weak stamina and moves too little). But if he pays more attention to his lifestyle he could be able to hold his place next season. Loose a couple of couple of pounds, and he will improve his play considerable imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I know this won't be a popular view, but even if he ends the season on 15 Premiership goals (terrific return), ideally he's someone we really need to be selling. There are a whole bunch of reasons that when combined make perfect sense imo, e.g.: - His fitness is already borderline-appalling as it is, - He's nearing the big 3-0, when players tend to decline sharply, - He's very limited as a midfielder, in fact... - He's been a passenger for the majority of our games this season, carried by Tiote for the most part. - His value/stock this summer will be high due to the goals (e.g. £8m sale?), despite the possibility that... - This might be his purple patch, the peak he'll struggle to reach again, especially without Carroll here anymore. Furthermore, - if Tiote can carry him, then why not Ben Arfa, Ireland or Barton in attacking free roles? They're considerably more talented than Nolan. which leads to my next point, - if we spend the Carroll money on a decent pair of strikers and a winger, i.e. if we can get goals elsewhere, Nolan's importance is significantly reduced, and - depending on the type of strikers we'll get (if any), creativity rather than goals may become more important from central midfield. Having said this, I'll not be unhappy if he's still a fixture in our team next season. But even so, moving players on at the right time (i.e. before a significant decline) has always been a major failure at this club, ever since Keegan left (and he was class at being ruthless and getting rid of a player after he's served his purpose in order to improve the team and move the club forward). I totally agree! He brings very little to pitch outside the box. He's carried by Tiote's excellence, which allows him to sneak into the opponent box. He could be a much better player if he wants to though. Some pundits in Norway have ridiculed Nolan's body, stating directly that he looks like a pub player. And I tend to agree. He's 30 soon and should take more responsibility for what he's eating. He's too fat which hurts his overall play (slow, weak stamina and moves too little). But if he pays more attention to his lifestyle he could be able to hold his place next season. Loose a couple of couple of pounds, and he will improve his play considerable imo This is classic "Nolan hasn't scored for a while...." talk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 See guys, now he's an important part of the team again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 his 50th premier league goal, impressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Top scorer for us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I know this won't be a popular view, but even if he ends the season on 15 Premiership goals (terrific return), ideally he's someone we really need to be selling. There are a whole bunch of reasons that when combined make perfect sense imo, e.g.: - His fitness is already borderline-appalling as it is, - He's nearing the big 3-0, when players tend to decline sharply, - He's very limited as a midfielder, in fact... - He's been a passenger for the majority of our games this season, carried by Tiote for the most part. - His value/stock this summer will be high due to the goals (e.g. £8m sale?), despite the possibility that... - This might be his purple patch, the peak he'll struggle to reach again, especially without Carroll here anymore. Furthermore, - if Tiote can carry him, then why not Ben Arfa, Ireland or Barton in attacking free roles? They're considerably more talented than Nolan. which leads to my next point, - if we spend the Carroll money on a decent pair of strikers and a winger, i.e. if we can get goals elsewhere, Nolan's importance is significantly reduced, and - depending on the type of strikers we'll get (if any), creativity rather than goals may become more important from central midfield. Having said this, I'll not be unhappy if he's still a fixture in our team next season. But even so, moving players on at the right time (i.e. before a significant decline) has always been a major failure at this club, ever since Keegan left (and he was class at being ruthless and getting rid of a player after he's served his purpose in order to improve the team and move the club forward). I totally agree! He brings very little to pitch outside the box. He's carried by Tiote's excellence, which allows him to sneak into the opponent box. He could be a much better player if he wants to though. Some pundits in Norway have ridiculed Nolan's body, stating directly that he looks like a pub player. And I tend to agree. He's 30 soon and should take more responsibility for what he's eating. He's too fat which hurts his overall play (slow, weak stamina and moves too little). But if he pays more attention to his lifestyle he could be able to hold his place next season. Loose a couple of couple of pounds, and he will improve his play considerable imo @ the both of you EDIT: Apologies, I assume the both of you are grown adults who have an undertanding of the game, the club and our recent history. However, on the off chance that you're both teenager newcomers to NUFC, living in some remote arctic tundra, then I apologise for being so blunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 FWIW I know this won't be a popular view, but even if he ends the season on 15 Premiership goals (terrific return), ideally he's someone we really need to be selling. There are a whole bunch of reasons that when combined make perfect sense imo, e.g.: - His fitness is already borderline-appalling as it is Lazy, lazy analysis. This is a guy who has played 30+ games every season since he was 18. Unfit players simply do not survive in the Premiership, particularly if they're "borderline-appalling" - with the notable exeption of Matt le Tissier. Nolan's game is all about getting into the box as a late runner, picking up the knockdowns and scraps - is it any wonder that he looks visibly tired at the 80minute mark when he's been up and down the pitch all game? - He's nearing the big 3-0, when players tend to decline sharply Really? This sounds like another lazy soundbite, Nolan has avoided serious injury throughout his career, as he gets older he gets more experienced and is able to time his runs and position himself better and become more effective. See: Scholes, P; Lampard, F; as another example of a Premiership midfielder who hasn't "declined sharply" at the 30-year mark. - He's very limited as a midfielder, in fact...Football (Game); objective: to score more goals than the opposition. Kevin Nolan scores goals. - He's been a passenger for the majority of our games this season, carried by Tiote for the most part.More lazy analysis. Granted, Tiote is a huge addition to our first team and every player benefits from having him in our side (from Harper, to Colo to Lovenkrands), Nolan is no different. However, we didn't have Tiote in our team last season (Nolan scored 18 goals). Similarly, in the games where Tiote has been suspended (mackems away?) Nolan has been just as effective. He was by no way the scapegoat for Bolton (a) or the Fulham (a) games. Curiously, Tiote's worst performance coincided with Nolan being injured (Wigan at home). - His value/stock this summer will be high due to the goals (e.g. £8m sale?), despite the possibility that...Get out. Even if people are paying £35m for Carroll (!!), you've spent the rest of your post slagging Nolan off...why on earth do you think a Premiership manager would pay £8m if he's as useless as you try to say? - This might be his purple patch, the peak he'll struggle to reach again, especially without Carroll here anymore. Really? He's scored 3 goals in 2011 without AC in the team, only Leon Best has been more prolific. Furthermore, - if Tiote can carry him, then why not Ben Arfa, Ireland or Barton in attacking free roles? They're considerably more talented than Nolan. which leads to my next point, Why not have creative players AND goalscorers? Play all of them (if they're ever fit together) - if we spend the Carroll money on a decent pair of strikers and a winger, i.e. if we can get goals elsewhere, Nolan's importance is significantly reduced, andTrue, as the squad improves then Nolan's contribution will diminish and he's on-the-field role will reduce; however, what also endears me to the club captain is that he's openly admitted that he'll not hold the team back if he can't compete. While he's able to, I want people like him around the club and the dressing room - depending on the type of strikers we'll get (if any), creativity rather than goals may become more important from central midfield.While we're still trying to become an established Premiership team, we're going to be playing 4-5-1 a fair bit and we'll need as much experience in that midfield as we can get, I don't see much sense (financially or for squad harmony) to exclude someone who has done as much as anyone else (if not more) to return us to the Premiership and reconstruct the atmosphere around the playing staff. Change for change's sake Having said this, I'll not be unhappy if he's still a fixture in our team next season. But even so, moving players on at the right time (i.e. before a significant decline) has always been a major failure at this club, ever since Keegan left (and he was class at being ruthless and getting rid of a player after he's served his purpose in order to improve the team and move the club forward). I totally agree! He brings very little to pitch outside the box. He's carried by Tiote's excellence, which allows him to sneak into the opponent box. He could be a much better player if he wants to though. Some pundits in Norway have ridiculed Nolan's body, stating directly that he looks like a pub player. And I tend to agree. He's 30 soon and should take more responsibility for what he's eating. He's too fat which hurts his overall play (slow, weak stamina and moves too little). But if he pays more attention to his lifestyle he could be able to hold his place next season. Loose a couple of couple of pounds, and he will improve his play considerable imo This is just more lazy analysis, do you even know what Nolan does during a game? See the comments above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I personally think it would be stupid to sell him. That doesn't mean he doesn't have limitations but he's key to you atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Worked really hard today, scored a cracking goal. The force Tiote struck the cross should have taken his head off, he did well with the header. His defensive work was vital today. Got us out of the shit on several occasions. Needs replacing in the first team but I wouldnt sell him. As good a club captain as we have had since Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Chicken Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Worked really hard today, scored a cracking goal. The force Tiote struck the cross should have taken his head off, he did well with the header. His defensive work was vital today. Got us out of the s*** on several occasions. Needs replacing in the first team but I wouldnt sell him. As good a club captain as we have had since Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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