Willow Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yes, I was whinging about this all through the Stoke match... We have the players, we just need to use them correctly at home and we can beat anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Lovenkrands deadwood? Judging by what exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 yes we should but in light of our personnel i'd still go ben arfa off carroll with routledge and jonas offering a lot more movemet than sticking to their given "positions" like subbuteo players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 People thinking we can afford a passenger like Lovenkrands in the team are having a laugh, frankly. He wouldn't have got a kick in 5 out of our 6 games so far. He's an example of deadwood we should have burned and replaced as a matter of priority in the summer. What we need is obvious, Ben Arfa off Carroll. Agree 100%, until we have a quality partner for Carroll this has to be the way forward, and I think the fact that Hughton tried getting Keane would suggest in an ideal world he'd prefer two up front, but can't with the lack of quality in that area, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 People thinking we can afford a passenger like Lovenkrands in the team are having a laugh, frankly. He wouldn't have got a kick in 5 out of our 6 games so far. He's an example of deadwood we should have burned and replaced as a matter of priority in the summer. What we need is obvious, Ben Arfa off Carroll. Lovenkrands showed this in his 'performance' against Chelsea. Barely got near the ball and when he did get chance made a right f***ing mess of it. 1 performance in a reserve side against Chelsea proves this, jesus christ man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Well, no, an entire career proves it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 He can't be match fit (Michael Owen©) but it is worrying he looked poor against what was largely a reserve team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Regarding Lovenkrands he's never been particulaly great, he's the only poacher type striker we have though. Our only other options are Xisco? Ranger, too similar to Carroll, great at holding up play, not proven to be a great poacher. Ameobi, need I say more realy? can be brilliant 1 game, shite the next 10. Best? Same with Xisco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Accrington Stanley didn't put out their reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Well, no, an entire career proves it. He's an average striker at best, we're an average team at best though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Accrington Stanley didn't put out their reserves. No, but we did, which is sort of the point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Lovenkrands is not an average striker, not at this level. We're the only club stupid enough to be paying him a wage at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Carroll and Lovenkrands. Simple as. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Lovenkrands is not an average striker, not at this level. We're the only club stupid enough to be paying him a wage at this level. Okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Shola & Carroll for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Did Shola and Carroll ever score in the same game in the Championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 LoveK - 6 in 44 over 3 years at Schalke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 LoveK - 6 in 44 over 3 years at Schalke. Didn;t he play on the wing for Shalke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yes, its not even a question to me anymore, losing to Blackpool alone is enough reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Did Shola and Carroll ever score in the same game in the Championship? Ipswich, no idea how many they started together though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Penalty wasn't it? Either way it's another combination that should be avoided. Much rather Shola than Loven though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 We should have went tits out for Keane. I would play both Carroll and Ameobi, Ameobi will pull and occupy the other centre back. Leaving Carroll a one to one with a defender. Can't decide if I've ever heard that phrase or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 yes we should but in light of our personnel i'd still go ben arfa off carroll with routledge and jonas offering a lot more movemet than sticking to their given "positions" like subbuteo players. I said this after the win against Everton despite everyone having a wankfest over Nolan on that day. He's a bottleneck for the whole team so I would much rather give Ben Arfa free reign to cause havoc off the main striker. With the movement of HBA, Jonas and Routledge there should be much more opportunity for goals, but then these guys along with the main striker have to take the responsibility of getting in the box and scoring them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 People thinking we can afford a passenger like Lovenkrands in the team are having a laugh, frankly. He wouldn't have got a kick in 5 out of our 6 games so far. He's an example of deadwood we should have burned and replaced as a matter of priority in the summer. What we need is obvious, Ben Arfa off Carroll. Lovenkrands showed this in his 'performance' against Chelsea. Barely got near the ball and when he did get chance made a right f***ing mess of it. 1 performance in a reserve side against Chelsea proves this, jesus christ man He was like that against Acrington Stanley and in the reserves v the mackems as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 The only one i would give a go would be Ranger, but no way is that even in Hughton's thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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