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West Ham Utd vs Newcastle United Pre-match thread 23/10/10 5:30pm *Live on Sky*


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Krul

Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique

Routledge Tiote Barton Gutierrez

Nolan

Ameobi

 

That's what i'd go for. We have components in that line-up to put in good away performances... and we have done. Just continue this. It was a garbage result and performance against Wigan but i actually think we can sneak a result here.

 

Cautiously predicting a 1-1...

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                    Krul

 

Simpson Willo Sol  Jose

 

Raylor Tiote Barton Jonas

 

                Colo

 

              Carroll

 

:snod:

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my team would be

                        KRUL

SIMPSON    SOL    COLO    JOSE

 

RAYLOR    TIOTE  BARTON  JONAS

                    NOLAN

                CARROLL or SHOLA

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Anyone who can "read a game of football" will be able to see that if we persist in playing Nolan with his poor level of fitness, we are heading for the relegation trapdoor. If your open play continually breaks down because you are carrying an unfit passenger, then your results will be all over the place as they undoubtedly have been, as you are effectively only playing with 10 men.

Hughton has obviously also come to this conclusion albeit several games too late and at last dropped him hopefully with the ultimatum to get fit or be left out.

 

 

:lol: That's pretty ridiculous but I like how you've formed a theory in your head and used some unrelated events to prove it :lol:

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I think Campbell does need to come in, and it has to be for Williamson unfortunately. Not that Williamson has done anything drasticaly wrong, but Campbell will strengthen the backbone quite significantly.

Obvious we are needing a new right back to come in, not that any are particularly much better than the other, but just for confidence in the position and for that position from other players. Probably Simpson would get the nod for me, if only for the attacking threat and pace to give West Ham some problems. For this though we need a proper right winger playing. It'll probably be Routledge but at the moment I can't see an argument against playing Jonas on the right and Ferguson on the left wing.... I'm sure some will disagree.

I also wan't us to be able to hold the ball in their half/box, so both Carroll & Shola start for me at the expense of Nolan/Barton. Tiote and Guthrie would be nice in CM, with Guthrie and a top 2 we should keep the ball better, but it won't happen.

 

 

 

I'd love to see this on Saturday..

 

 

Simpson  Colo  Campbell  Jose

 

Jonas  Guthrie  Tiote  Ferguson

 

        Caroll  Ameobi

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I think Campbell does need to come in, and it has to be for Williamson unfortunately. Not that Williamson has done anything drasticaly wrong, but Campbell will strengthen the backbone quite significantly.

Obvious we are needing a new right back to come in, not that any are particularly much better than the other, but just for confidence in the position and for that position from other players. Probably Simpson would get the nod for me, if only for the attacking threat and pace to give West Ham some problems. For this though we need a proper right winger playing. It'll probably be Routledge but at the moment I can't see an argument against playing Jonas on the right and Ferguson on the left wing.... I'm sure some will disagree.

I also wan't us to be able to hold the ball in their half/box, so both Carroll & Shola start for me at the expense of Nolan/Barton. Tiote and Guthrie would be nice in CM, with Guthrie and a top 2 we should keep the ball better, but it won't happen.

 

 

 

I'd love to see this on Saturday..

 

 

Simpson  Colo  Campbell  Jose

 

Jonas  Guthrie  Tiote  Ferguson

 

         Caroll  Ameobi

 

Since when has Simpson ever had great pace and attacking threat?

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I think Campbell does need to come in, and it has to be for Williamson unfortunately. Not that Williamson has done anything drasticaly wrong, but Campbell will strengthen the backbone quite significantly.

Obvious we are needing a new right back to come in, not that any are particularly much better than the other, but just for confidence in the position and for that position from other players. Probably Simpson would get the nod for me, if only for the attacking threat and pace to give West Ham some problems. For this though we need a proper right winger playing. It'll probably be Routledge but at the moment I can't see an argument against playing Jonas on the right and Ferguson on the left wing.... I'm sure some will disagree.

I also wan't us to be able to hold the ball in their half/box, so both Carroll & Shola start for me at the expense of Nolan/Barton. Tiote and Guthrie would be nice in CM, with Guthrie and a top 2 we should keep the ball better, but it won't happen.

 

 

 

I'd love to see this on Saturday..

 

 

Simpson  Colo  Campbell  Jose

 

Jonas  Guthrie  Tiote  Ferguson

 

         Caroll  Ameobi

 

Since when has Simpson ever had great pace and attacking threat?

 

He has more pace and general wide attacking wing play than Raylor does. Despite Raylor having a better cross, he doesn't look to overlap those ahead of him like Simpson or Perch does, and with Perch being gash, I'd chose Simpson.

 

That ok for you?

 

Also, I'm struggling to find where Ive put Simpson has 'great'. can you help me?

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Yeah, break up Jose and Jonas to accomodate Shane Ferguson. Honestly.

 

I know, but its not to 'accomodate' Ferguson, its to give us something down the right! And Ferguson looks even better at tracking back and covering than Jonas does, and then our RB would finally get some cover if Jonas was there.

 

I think its a good shout anyway. I understand not wanting to break up our best link and the uncertainty of playing Ferguson. I don't see how its a particularly bad idea though. Our right has been fucking woeful! Shame Ferguson isn't right footed.

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Yeah, break up Jose and Jonas to accomodate Shane Ferguson. Honestly.

 

I know, but its not to 'accomodate' Ferguson, its to give us something down the right! And Ferguson looks even better at tracking back and covering than Jonas does, and then our RB would finally get some cover if Jonas was there.

 

I think its a good shout anyway. I understand not wanting to break up our best link and the uncertainty of playing Ferguson. I don't see how its a particularly bad idea though. Our right has been fucking woeful! Shame Ferguson isn't right footed.

 

If you're basing this on the Chelsea game, Ferguson was playing LB  :shifty:

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Yes yes, I'm sure everyone else knows that, as well as I. I'm sure I didn't mention once that he played a great game at Left Mid against Chelsea

 

Fucking Hell, i suggest a positive change as do a couple of others and I get lambasted for it.

But Ok, I'll suggest we play the same proven sub-standard tactics as we have been so far this season. I forgot the joys of last season prove that regardless of form and moral we should stick with what we know, even if it isn't good enough.

 

FFS. I do wonder why we ask for so much sometimes and the majority allow for so little.

 

 

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Anyone who can "read a game of football" will be able to see that if we persist in playing Nolan with his poor level of fitness, we are heading for the relegation trapdoor. If your open play continually breaks down because you are carrying an unfit passenger, then your results will be all over the place as they undoubtedly have been, as you are effectively only playing with 10 men.

Hughton has obviously also come to this conclusion albeit several games too late and at last dropped him hopefully with the ultimatum to get fit or be left out.

 

 

:lol: That's pretty ridiculous but I like how you've formed a theory in your head and used some unrelated events to prove it :lol:

So, if I am of the opinion is that an unfit Nolan should not be in the team,

I either do not watch the games, or cannot read a game and my opinion is ridiculous.

Personally I think you overeact with your Nolan protection.

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--------------Krul--------------

Simpson Solo Colo Enrique

Raylor Tiote Barton Jonas

        Ameobi Carroll

 

Subs

Soderberg

Perch

Routledge

Guthrie

Lovenkrands

Williamson

Nolan

 

 

You realize that Solo as a nick name, is longer than his actual name? :D

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                        Krul

 

Simpson  Campbell  Colo    Enrique

 

                            Tiote

              Barton

Guthrie                                Jonas

 

              Ameobi  Carroll

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                         Krul

 

Simpson  Campbell   Colo    Enrique

 

                             Tiote

               Barton

Guthrie                                 Jonas

 

               Ameobi   Carroll

 

Aye, because Guthrie on the wing worked really well on Saturday.

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