Alan Pardew

[Wullie]

Of course it would be a good decision. What's the other option - give this arse 30 million? I remember when Shepherd gave that and more to Souness and nearly everyone other than Mick and I thought it was brilliant.

[BONTEMPI]

Well if he doesn't do it in the tranfer market he'll be gone in no time.

[Guest vainsharpdad]

 

West Brom seem to have done better than us this season.

 

 

[Ikon]

 

Seriously, get a f***ing grip man.

 

 

I just don't get it how you and some other people can compare the two considering the difference in resources (players) available.

[The Prophet]

 

People also try to make out is his time here has been much worse than it is, he's been decent.

 

He was supposed to have been an upgrade, our league position suggests that he's not.

 

I'm not contending that point though, the decision to sack Hughton was ridiculous, but at the same time Pardew has come in and done a decent job.

[Ikon]

 

West Brom seem to have done better than us this season.

 

 

 

Overall they have when looking at the table, dunno about their injury record though.

[Neil]

 

People also try to make out is his time here has been much worse than it is, he's been decent.

 

He was supposed to have been an upgrade, our league position suggests that he's not.

 

I'm not contending that point though, the decision to sack hughton was ridiculous, but at the same time Pardew has come in and done a decent job.

 

I think there is some underestimation of the fact Pardew had to pick up a group of players who were no doubt in shock and probably didn't agree with the removal of Hughton either. Pardew has done well; time will tell if he spends whatever money he gets well.

[Mick]

 

I just don't get it how you and some other people can compare the two considering the difference in resources (players) available.

 

It doesn't work like that though, Ferguson is supposed to be the best manager in the country based on him having different resources to everybody else.

[Ikon]

As The Prophet once said, sacking Hughton was ridiculous, but imo Pardew has been the better of the two. Not by very much though, whether you want to call it an upgrade or not is another matter.

[Ikon]

 

People also try to make out is his time here has been much worse than it is, he's been decent.

 

He was supposed to have been an upgrade, our league position suggests that he's not.

 

I'm not contending that point though, the decision to sack hughton was ridiculous, but at the same time Pardew has come in and done a decent job.

 

I think there is some underestimation of the fact Pardew had to pick up a group of players who were no doubt in shock and probably didn't agree with the removal of Hughton either. Pardew has done well; time will tell if he spends whatever money he gets well.

 

Well said.

[Ikon]

 

I just don't get it how you and some other people can compare the two considering the difference in resources (players) available.

 

It doesn't work like that though, Ferguson is supposed to be the best manager in the country based on him having different resources to everybody else.

 

It's not exactly a comparable situation is it?

[Mick]

I'm not contending that point though, the decision to sack Hughton was ridiculous, but at the same time Pardew has come in and done a decent job.

 

Fair enough although I don't agree about the decent job as I'll always base my opinion of him coming in as a supposed better manager so I'll expect him to do better than the person he's replaced.  In the league alone he probably has done slightly better, taking the cup into it, I don't think that he has done better.

[Mick]

 

 

It's not exactly a comparable situation is it?

 

They never are and that's my point.  People still make comparisons when situations are never the same and it has always been the case.

[Ikon]

 

 

It's not exactly a comparable situation is it?

 

They never are and that's my point.  People still make comparisons when situations are never the same and it has always been the case.

 

Dont understand why you dragged red nose in to this really, it's a totally different thing. What im comparing is two managers who have had about the same amount of games each with NUFC during the same season (Pardew a few more) About the same squad with everyone fit and no suspensions, where Pardew has as good if not better points/game than Hughton. And this with Hughton having a lot less injurys/suspensions and been at the club for some time before this season started compared to Pardew who came in in a difficult situation in the middle of everything.

[Elliottman]

The end of next season is the time to judge him..

[Guest BooBoo]

The end of next season is the time to judge him..

 

Tend to agree. Any manager really needs at least one full season to be fairly judged.

[Stifler]

We finished 12th, but I think he would have managed us to a better league finish had Carroll not been sold or even a semi sort of decent replacement coming in for him.

 

I expect him to spend his money well in the summer. 10th must be the target for next season. He must be backed in the summer.

[The Prophet]

For me the problem for a lot of people is they can't seperate their feelings of Pardew from that of Ashley, Llambias and the Hughton sacking.

 

The Hughton sacking was completely out of order. The bloke did have a questionable home record, but putting that aside he dragged us from out darkest hour. He got us promoted, fostered an excellent team spirit, got players performing again and also did reasonably well in the transfer market. Chris will always be a legend due to his short but influential spell in charge, and the way Ashley treated him with such contempt was frankly shameful.

 

I'm not a massive fan of Pardew as a person and I, like others, wasn't particularly impressed when he took over. At the same time he's done a decent job. He's steadied the ship since Hughton's departure and managed to maintain the excellent team spirit while having to deal with a substantial injury list and the sale of his most potent striker. At the same time we've looked far more assured at home. Having said all that, the jury is still out. Until we've seen his transfers, how he molds the team and the how we perform next season, it isn't possible to tell if this is a good or a poor appointment. So far so good, but next season is the real test of his abilities.

[Dave]

For me the problem for a lot of people is they can't seperate their feelings of Pardew from that of Ashley, Llambias and the Hughton sacking.

 

The Hughton sacking was completely out of order. The bloke did have a questionable home record, but putting that aside he dragged us from out darkest hour. He got us promoted, fostered an excellent team spirit, got players performing again and also did reasonably well in the transfer market. Chris will always be a legend due to his short but influential spell in charge, and the way Ashley treated him with such contempt was frankly shameful.

 

I'm not a massive fan of Pardew as a person and I, like others, wasn't particularly impressed when he took over. At the same time he's done a decent job. He's steadied the ship since Hughton's departure and managed to maintain the excellent team spirit while having to deal with a substantial injury list and the sale of his most potent striker. At the same time we've looked far more assured at home. Having said all that, the jury is still out. Until we've seen his transfers, how he molds the team and the how we perform next season, it isn't possible to tell if this is a good or a poor appointment. So far so good, but next season is the real test of his abilities.

 

Aside from the fact I don't believe the ship needed steadying, I agree with this.

[Stifler]

For me the problem for a lot of people is they can't seperate their feelings of Pardew from that of Ashley, Llambias and the Hughton sacking.

 

The Hughton sacking was completely out of order. The bloke did have a questionable home record, but putting that aside he dragged us from out darkest hour. He got us promoted, fostered an excellent team spirit, got players performing again and also did reasonably well in the transfer market. Chris will always be a legend due to his short but influential spell in charge, and the way Ashley treated him with such contempt was frankly shameful.

 

I'm not a massive fan of Pardew as a person and I, like others, wasn't particularly impressed when he took over. At the same time he's done a decent job. He's steadied the ship since Hughton's departure and managed to maintain the excellent team spirit while having to deal with a substantial injury list and the sale of his most potent striker. At the same time we've looked far more assured at home. Having said all that, the jury is still out. Until we've seen his transfers, how he molds the team and the how we perform next season, it isn't possible to tell if this is a good or a poor appointment. So far so good, but next season is the real test of his abilities.

 

Aside from the fact I don't believe the ship needed steadying, I agree with this.

He stopped it from drifting away a few times.

 

The team could easily have dropped moral when Hughton was sacked  but he came in and in his first game beat Liverpool 3-1.

 

Andy Carroll was sold and we had no replacement and the team moral could easily have left us again, we continued through to the end of the season and only narrowly missed out on a top 10 finish.

 

We were 4-0 down at half time to Arsenal are were going to get hammered, whatever he said at half time it worked and lead to the biggest comeback in Premiership history and that I believe was the moment when our players turned around and said "Not this time, we aren't going to fail this time".

 

Chris Hughton might have installed that team moral in the first place, but Pardew has kept it there when it could have very easily fucked off.

[Guest BooBoo]

Whilst it's obvious we need strikers, we've made a habit of shipping goals at home. We really need to tighten up at the back next season. How many clean sheets? Four? I can think of Villa, Fulham, West Ham and Man Utd.

[Mick]

He stopped it from drifting away a few times.

 

The team could easily have dropped moral when Hughton was sacked  but he came in and in his first game beat Liverpool 3-1.

 

Andy Carroll was sold and we had no replacement and the team moral could easily have left us again, we continued through to the end of the season and only narrowly missed out on a top 10 finish.

 

We were 4-0 down at half time to Arsenal are were going to get hammered, whatever he said at half time it worked and lead to the biggest comeback in Premiership history and that I believe was the moment when our players turned around and said "Not this time, we aren't going to fail this time".

 

Chris Hughton might have installed that team moral in the first place, but Pardew has kept it there when it could have very easily f***ed off.

 

Do you seriously think Pardew changed the game against Arsenal?  What changed that game was a sending off and then the players and crowd being lifted by that decision.  If Arsenal had stayed at 11 men we wouldn't have got a point out of the game.

[Mick]

Whilst it's obvious we need strikers, we've made a habit of shipping goals at home. We really need to tighten up at the back next season. How many clean sheets? Four? I can think of Villa, Fulham, West Ham and Man Utd.

 

Getting somebody next to Tiote with legs will help the defence.

[Rich]

He stopped it from drifting away a few times.

 

The team could easily have dropped moral when Hughton was sacked  but he came in and in his first game beat Liverpool 3-1.

 

Andy Carroll was sold and we had no replacement and the team moral could easily have left us again, we continued through to the end of the season and only narrowly missed out on a top 10 finish.

 

We were 4-0 down at half time to Arsenal are were going to get hammered, whatever he said at half time it worked and lead to the biggest comeback in Premiership history and that I believe was the moment when our players turned around and said "Not this time, we aren't going to fail this time".

 

Chris Hughton might have installed that team moral in the first place, but Pardew has kept it there when it could have very easily f***ed off.

 

Do you seriously think Pardew changed the game against Arsenal?  What changed that game was a sending off and then the players and crowd being lifted by that decision.  If Arsenal had stayed at 11 men we wouldn't have got a point out of the game.

 

He brought Ranger on, didn't he? I'm sure that decision got a lot of credit at the time as we scored three goals after his introduction.

 

You can't have it every which way Mick, you've blatantly got a massive agenda here.

[Guest BooBoo]

Mick's always been one of my favourite posters on here but his Pardew agenda is just getting in the way of any decent post making.

 

I'll be honest, contrary to belief I'm not a Pardew fan who will defend him no matter what but i am prepared to judge him only when he's had a fair crack. So far he's done quite well but the only time to really judge is after next season.