Alan Pardew

[Guest Shaun]

 

“I think our fans will be disappointed, and what we need is a pick-me-up now.

 

“We need to get a win – we’re well aware of that.

 

“No-one needs to tell us.

 

“We’ve got Norwich at home, and it looks like a great opportunity.”

 

But Pardew is acutely aware that nothing is a given in the Premier League.

 

Indeed, even a 2-0 cushion against relegation-haunted Wolverhampton Wanderers could not bag a victory two weeks ago, while the last home game against Sunderland turned into a dogfight.

 

Games against Swansea City and West Brom this season on Tyneside also only yielded a point, underlining the toughness of the top flight these days.

 

But even after defeat at Arsenal, Pardew is confident his side will eventually get their just rewards.

 

Pardew said: “We’ll have to work like we did on Monday night if we’re going to get it.

 

“We’ll be under a lot of pressure.

 

 

 

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Centre of his footballing world, the moron.

[Guest Deadmau5]

Seems like alot of people on here are a bit negative towards Pardew.

I don`t think the fotball has been any worse than it was under Hughton tbh.

Still, we are nearly on the same points as last season with 10 matches to go! Thats a wonderful point of departure!

We traded Nolan Barton and Carroll for Cabaye, Obertan and Demba Ba. Cabaye hasn`t been what we had hoped for,

Obertan has been rather underwhelming and Ba has been a straight upgrade on Carroll in the fotballing sense, but I cant help but think Carroll would have been better suited to our style of direct fotball.

I dont think any of our signings are players Pardew would have picked if he got the chance. He works with what he has got, but I genuinly thinks he would prefer

brawler types to continental ballpassers. Hence why he is deploying cabaye so deep, reluctancy to playing ben arfa and crossing it to Ba.

 

There seems to be a disparity between our transfer policy and our fotballing philosophy which is due to the fact that our manager has nothing to do with who we bring in, thats at the business side of things and for resale purposes.  But you cant really blame Pardew for that. He has his style and does what he does best, with what he believes to be the best players for each position.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt - but lets see how we finish before we sharpen our pitchforks. He is our manager for the next 4 years, so lets get behind him - we are all fans here 

 

[JH]

Pardew says "Foot off the pedal" people go mental.

 

Pardew says "We'll work hard" people go mental.

 

It's a lose-lose man.

[Dr Venkman]

Look at them all, going MENTAL!

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

Look at them all, going MENTAL!

 

[littlelunchbox]

Seems like alot of people on here are a bit negative towards Pardew.

I don`t think the fotball has been any worse than it was under Hughton tbh.

Still, we are nearly on the same points as last season with 10 matches to go! Thats a wonderful point of departure!

We traded Nolan Barton and Carroll for Cabaye, Obertan and Demba Ba. Cabaye hasn`t been what we had hoped for,

Obertan has been rather underwhelming and Ba has been a straight upgrade on Carroll in the fotballing sense, but I cant help but think Carroll would have been better suited to our style of direct fotball.

I dont think any of our signings are players Pardew would have picked if he got the chance. He works with what he has got, but I genuinly thinks he would prefer

brawler types to continental ballpassers. Hence why he is deploying cabaye so deep, reluctancy to playing ben arfa and crossing it to Ba.

 

There seems to be a disparity between our transfer policy and our fotballing philosophy which is due to the fact that our manager has nothing to do with who we bring in, thats at the business side of things and for resale purposes.  But you cant really blame Pardew for that. He has his style and does what he does best, with what he believes to be the best players for each position.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt - but lets see how we finish before we sharpen our pitchforks. He is our manager for the next 4 years, so lets get behind him - we are all fans here 

 

as much as i have hated the defensive play and longballs, i'd take pardew over houghton anyday,

 

appreciated what houghton did for us, but i think pardew is a better manager all round.

[Dr Venkman]

please don't start the fucking hughton debate again

[Dokko]

If Sunderland finish above us, will mike sack him? Hope so.

[loki679]

please don't start the f***ing hughton debate again

 

He's not, he's starting the Houghton debate.

[Jagten]

Pardew says "Foot off the pedal" people go mental.

 

Pardew says "We'll work hard" people go mental.

 

It's a lose-lose man.

Or he could say: "We need to get back to playing well, focus on retaining possession, playing it out from the back and playing some football that is an enjoyable spectacle for the supporters." 

[Guest Howaythetoon]

There is nothing remotely good about our team at the moment other than the abilities of certain individuals.

 

Are we hard to beat? We've lost 7 games to date in 28 matches.

 

Are we tough to score against? We've condeded 41 goals in 28 matches. In short we are likely to concede in every match and given we have only scored 40 goals, that means we are more likely to either draw or lose a game than win.

 

Are we capable of beating sides? We've won a healthy 12 but we've lost 7 and drew 8, that's 15 games we haven't won.

 

Our strengths are:

 

High work ethic

Team spirit

Individual brilliance

 

That is all our side has to offer. Tactically we are a mess. The shape, the system, the roles of key players, are all wrong.

 

For us to win a game the opposition have to be either really poor and really unlucky while we need a combination of good luck, individual brilliance and valiant effort in terms of work ethic and team spirit. We do not beat teams systematically via a combination of tactics, fluid team play and possession football.

 

It is pardew's job and the coaches to assess the strengths of our side based on the players we have and to date all they seem capable of creating is a hard working and motivated group with great team spirit. Our tactics are primitive and basic. Our team-shape is rigid and lacks compactness and fluidity. Our team lineups are often all wrong too. Pardew has a habit of sending out the wrong side with players in wrong positions. Barton wide left away to Stevenage. Ryan Taylor at left-back or central midfield or right-wing. Obertan as a withdrawn striker.

 

There is nothing to our side that a similar hard working side cannot compete against. Worryingly such sides like QPR, Wolves and Villa, all terrorised us at points of those respective games. QPR cut us open at least 5 times and but for poor finishing we could have been several goals down before the break. Villa had similar chances. Wolves came back from 2-0 down and had enough chances to actually win the game.

 

Tiote and Cabaye play far too deep and the gap between them and the forwards is ridiculous. Ba is often isolated up top. When Ryan Taylor plays he drifts infield too much. Our full-backs are not encouraged to get to the byeline or to overlap. Pardew can be seen regularly telling them to stop at around the half-way line. Meaning Jonas has to do all the wing play when he's often teamed up on by 2 to 3 players. Its now happening with Ben Arfa on the right too. Defensively we either hold a high line or a deep line depending on the opposition or game. There is no campactness there, no fluidity. All defenders are encouraged to hit an early ball or to get it forwards quickly, this means a long ball to the front. The 'keeper is instructed likewise. We play a narrow game in midfield. Our tactics are negative and counter productive, designed to contain the opposition and to keep clean sheets. Tactics that clearly don't work because we cannot contain the opposition nor keep a clean sheet. We are utterly hopeless as an attacking force.

 

We seldom create clear cut chances or enough to comfortably beat the opposition. We allow the opposition too much time on the ball and to dominate our midfield also.

 

If we have serious designs on finishing in the top 6 on a regular basis and playing in Europea, he needs replaced because he cannot cut the msutard. Our players can though.

[TheGuv]

My thoughts basically.

 

Unfortunately there's no way he will leave while Mike and Dekka are here. Unless he resigns.

[danswan]

I kind of agree with a lot of that but we aren't getting relegated or anything, and earlier in the season we played some nice football. I'd definitely give him another full season.

[Stuy_O]

 

For all Pardew's talk preseason and during the season, as we've been more and more successful, and edge closer and closer to a European place, it's clear he's scared shitless. 

 

Definatly something in this. I like Pardew, quite amazing where he has us in the league but its understandable some fans are concerned at the growing tepidness in our performances. Now Europa is a clear objective, He seems to be getting increasingly paranoid about opposing teams and the side has gone in its shell as a result.

 

You can take a defeat to Arsenal, but some of the absolute basics recently have been really poor. Passing, retaining possesion etc are so sloppy at times. Set Pieces also remain plain awful. The current run reminds me of some our early season games (QPR, Scunthorpe), where most our players just looked lost.

 

Wether its down to tactics or stage fright is open to debate, but there in real danger of letting a potentially great season devolve into a mediocre one. If Pardew is streetwise (I think he is) he needs to do the obvious, which is start Ben Arfa week in week out and play two up top without fail. If he persists with this containing method they currently adopt, they will not get europa league.

 

Huge game on sunday, possibly Pard's biggest for me, asides his first as manager.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

I don't want to start up the whole Hughton vs Pardew debate but the biggest difference between the two is their character and attitude and how its reflected on the pitch. Hughton is a relaxed, calm and generally positive man and that's how the team was set up, relaxed, calm and positive which enables players to play with freedom and confidence.

 

When we went 2-0 up against Villa or the mackems, did Hughton try to shut up shop or instruct his midfielders to drop a tad deeper? No, he basically stood by and ALLOWED his team to carry on with what they were doing. Pardew doesn't allow the team to do anything that he himself cannot have some say in or to dictate. 2-0 up at half-time against Wolves it should have been a case of carry on as you were. But no, he instructs the players to shut shop, contain, see the game through.

 

I'd have more faith in Hughton actually sending this current team out to play football, to get at teams and to win games than Pardew who I have no faith in at all now.

[Guest neesy111]

I don't want to start up the whole Hughton vs Pardew debate but the biggest difference between the two is their character and attitude and how its reflected on the pitch. Hughton is a relaxed, calm and generally positive man and that's how the team was set up, relaxed, calm and positive which enables players to play with freedom and confidence.

 

When we went 2-0 up against Villa or the mackems, did Hughton try to shut up shop or instruct his midfielders to drop a tad deeper? No, he basically stood by and ALLOWED his team to carry on with what they were doing. Pardew doesn't allow the team to do anything that he himself cannot have some say in or to dictate. 2-0 up at half-time against Wolves it should have been a case of carry on as you were. But no, he instructs the players to shut shop, contain, see the game through.

 

I'd have more faith in Hughton actually sending this current team out to play football, to get at teams and to win games than Pardew who I have no faith in at all now.

 

This.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

We've had a decent start to the season no doubt which cannot be denied but even during our good run I wasn't overley convinced and as a result I've went all the way back to Big Sam's time here. He was sacked after 21 games and his record read:

 

Won 7

Drew 5

Lost 9

For 27

Against 33

 

27 Points

 

At that point he was universally (almost) castigated for our performances and form with many fearing relegation etc. etc.

 

Our form and results this season in our first 21 games under Pardew:

 

Won 10

Drew 6

Lost 5

For 30

Against 25

 

36 points

 

And now Hughton in his first 21 games last season, a manager not deemed good enough and someone who many feel Pardew is a big upgrade on or has been:

 

Won 8

Drew 4

Lost 9

For 34

Against 31

 

28 points

 

I don't quite know what I'm trying to get at here but looking at the respective records, there isn't a great deal in it and worringly, if you reversed our season now to start game 28 as the first all the way back to game 7 as the 21st, Pardew's record would be worse and all this given the best side we've had since Sir Bobby's days in a season where the usual contenders if you like such as Arsenal, Liverpool and even your Everton's and Villa's have all had poor seasons compared to our "great" or "very good" one.

[ATB]

I miss Hughton

[Guest VaVaVoom]

There is nothing remotely good about our team at the moment other than the abilities of certain individuals.

 

Are we hard to beat? We've lost 7 games to date in 28 matches.

 

Are we tough to score against? We've condeded 41 goals in 28 matches. In short we are likely to concede in every match and given we have only scored 40 goals, that means we are more likely to either draw or lose a game than win.

 

Are we capable of beating sides? We've won a healthy 12 but we've lost 7 and drew 8, that's 15 games we haven't won.

 

Our strengths are:

 

High work ethic

Team spirit

Individual brilliance

 

That is all our side has to offer. Tactically we are a mess. The shape, the system, the roles of key players, are all wrong.

 

For us to win a game the opposition have to be either really poor and really unlucky while we need a combination of good luck, individual brilliance and valiant effort in terms of work ethic and team spirit. We do not beat teams systematically via a combination of tactics, fluid team play and possession football.

 

It is pardew's job and the coaches to assess the strengths of our side based on the players we have and to date all they seem capable of creating is a hard working and motivated group with great team spirit. Our tactics are primitive and basic. Our team-shape is rigid and lacks compactness and fluidity. Our team lineups are often all wrong too. Pardew has a habit of sending out the wrong side with players in wrong positions. Barton wide left away to Stevenage. Ryan Taylor at left-back or central midfield or right-wing. Obertan as a withdrawn striker.

 

There is nothing to our side that a similar hard working side cannot compete against. Worryingly such sides like QPR, Wolves and Villa, all terrorised us at points of those respective games. QPR cut us open at least 5 times and but for poor finishing we could have been several goals down before the break. Villa had similar chances. Wolves came back from 2-0 down and had enough chances to actually win the game.

 

Tiote and Cabaye play far too deep and the gap between them and the forwards is ridiculous. Ba is often isolated up top. When Ryan Taylor plays he drifts infield too much. Our full-backs are not encouraged to get to the byeline or to overlap. Pardew can be seen regularly telling them to stop at around the half-way line. Meaning Jonas has to do all the wing play when he's often teamed up on by 2 to 3 players. Its now happening with Ben Arfa on the right too. Defensively we either hold a high line or a deep line depending on the opposition or game. There is no campactness there, no fluidity. All defenders are encouraged to hit an early ball or to get it forwards quickly, this means a long ball to the front. The 'keeper is instructed likewise. We play a narrow game in midfield. Our tactics are negative and counter productive, designed to contain the opposition and to keep clean sheets. Tactics that clearly don't work because we cannot contain the opposition nor keep a clean sheet. We are utterly hopeless as an attacking force.

 

We seldom create clear cut chances or enough to comfortably beat the opposition. We allow the opposition too much time on the ball and to dominate our midfield also.

 

If we have serious designs on finishing in the top 6 on a regular basis and playing in Europea, he needs replaced because he cannot cut the msutard. Our players can though.

 

I normally strongly dislike your posts, like our football they are far too negative but this post actually accurately sums us up. If only we could get this post to one of the backroom staff to read!

 

Having said that, HTT, i dont hate AP like you do, not even close, i think he does care about the club and we ARE moving forward. We are 6th! 6th whilsts playing shite with a talented 1st team of players. Do you not think we will improve? I do. Developing a good brand of football takes time, ability and understanding between players not to mention a consistent starting 11.

 

We have not been blessed in the latter what with injuries, suspensions and international commitments. We have time and ability to forge the understanding within the group.

 

I think AP does want us to play attacking football but its a building process. This season was always going to be a building job, its just so happened that we have got to 6th whilst being relatively poor.

 

Fwiw i think some good football will break out in the last 10 games and see us into europe. That in itself will bring in better players to fill in those weak positions and in turn hopefully encourage even better football next season. Exposure to european football will also help us develop a better brand of football.

 

People want too much too soon in my opinion. We are 6th ffs.

[Mick]

 

I normally strongly dislike your posts, like our football they are far too negative but this post actually accurately sums us up. If only we could get this post to one of the backroom staff to read!

 

Having said that, HTT, i dont hate AP like you do, not even close, i think he does care about the club and we ARE moving forward. We are 6th! 6th whilsts playing s**** with a talented 1st team of players. Do you not think we will improve? I do. Developing a good brand of football takes time, ability and understanding between players not to mention a consistent starting 11.

 

We have not been blessed in the latter what with injuries, suspensions and international commitments. We have time and ability to forge the understanding within the group.

 

I think AP does want us to play attacking football but its a building process. This season was always going to be a building job, its just so happened that we have got to 6th whilst being relatively poor.

 

Fwiw i think some good football will break out in the last 10 games and see us into europe. That in itself will bring in better players to fill in those weak positions and in turn hopefully encourage even better football next season. Exposure to european football will also help us develop a better brand of football.

 

People want too much too soon in my opinion. We are 6th ffs.

 

[Guest BooBoo]

It's an undeniable fact that we are 6th though.

[Guest neesy111]

 

I normally strongly dislike your posts, like our football they are far too negative but this post actually accurately sums us up. If only we could get this post to one of the backroom staff to read!

 

Having said that, HTT, i dont hate AP like you do, not even close, i think he does care about the club and we ARE moving forward. We are 6th! 6th whilsts playing s**** with a talented 1st team of players. Do you not think we will improve? I do. Developing a good brand of football takes time, ability and understanding between players not to mention a consistent starting 11.

 

We have not been blessed in the latter what with injuries, suspensions and international commitments. We have time and ability to forge the understanding within the group.

 

I think AP does want us to play attacking football but its a building process. This season was always going to be a building job, its just so happened that we have got to 6th whilst being relatively poor.

 

Fwiw i think some good football will break out in the last 10 games and see us into europe. That in itself will bring in better players to fill in those weak positions and in turn hopefully encourage even better football next season. Exposure to european football will also help us develop a better brand of football.

 

People want too much too soon in my opinion. We are 6th ffs.

 

 

Since when do you win prizes after 28 games.

[Guest neesy111]

It's an undeniable fact that we are 6th though.

 

Means fuck all until end of the season.

[Guest BooBoo]

Neesy you're so bitter at the moment, things really aren't as bad as they're being made out.

[Guest VaVaVoom]

You laugh but there was a deliberate point in that.

 

Some people just act as if they dont know. Or just are ungrateful and/or just plain idiotic.

 

Wanting AP out because we are not playing magic football whilst we occupy SIXTH spot is pathetic.