AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 He learned from the failed experiment playing 3-5-2. Moving Colo to CM in hindsight looks slightly dodgy, but as we've discussed before he obviously wanted to keep Barton out wide. He was hamstrung by injuries and suspensions against Villa, anything but a defeat would have been amazing. I don't think either are cause to worry that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 He was talking out of his arse during that phone-in the other week, if the Villa game is anything to go by. He acknowledged that he'd made mistakes by shifting the defense around away from home. Then went and did the exact same thing which saw us lose horrendously again. We didn't need to play Coloccini in midfield for goodness sake. What's particularly frustrating about us having another new manager, is that he's got to learn about the squad all over again. I don't think there'll be wholesale changes in the summer so it's annoying that we've got to go through the whole process of a manager making mistakes and learning from them, again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 He learned from the failed experiment playing 3-5-2. Moving Colo to CM in hindsight looks slightly dodgy, but as we've discussed before he obviously wanted to keep Barton out wide. He was hamstrung by injuries and suspensions against Villa, anything but a defeat would have been amazing. I don't think either are cause to worry that much. Like I said, unfair to judge him just yet. I just hope that he learns from his mistakes, as the tactics and team selection was all wrong before a ball was even kicked in those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 1-0 to Villa with the players we had available really isn't 'losing horrendously'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 The performance was horrendous. The fundamental problem with the changes against Stoke was that we'd moved the defense around. The defense is the crux of our team cos it contains our best players - especially if Nolan and Tiote aren't in the squad. He went and did the same thing against Villa. Infuriating, and not just 'with hindsight'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 The performance was horrendous. The fundamental problem with the changes against Stoke was that we'd moved the defense around. The defense is the crux of our team cos it contains our best players - especially if Nolan and Tiote aren't in the squad. He went and did the same thing against Villa. Infuriating, and not just 'with hindsight'. But at the same time, everyone has been saying for weeks that Joey Barton should never be played in CM again. So Pardew's options were limited, unless he went for something totally suicidal like Ryan Taylor in the middle. Really think we're reading too much into the Villa result... the main issue was the lack of decent players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Alan Pardew is a mouthpiece for Ashley and Llambias' lies. Doing a good job as manager though ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm no fan of his at all but the result against Villa was down to a huge amount of injuries and suspensions if we had Nolan, Tiote and Best/Shola back we'd have got a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vinkent Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I can never see how people judge managers over one game. Fair enough to whinge on if theyve made some bad decisions but the real judgement lies in whether they move on and make amends for these mistakes in the next 2/3 games after. Hughton would have been our best manager ever if we only ever looked at the Villa home game but no, just like Pardew does, he had his faults too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I can never see how people judge managers over one game. Fair enough to whinge on if theyve made some bad decisions but the real judgement lies in whether they move on and make amends for these mistakes in the next 2/3 games after. Hughton would have been our best manager ever if we only ever looked at the Villa home game but no, just like Pardew does, he had his faults too. Who is judging him on one game then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vinkent Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Not anyone in particular here but when I've been to the past few games there's a massive amount of see-sawing opinions from week to week on him depending on what the result is. Wish some people would just have some time to think and not hit the roof about everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Not anyone in particular here but when I've been to the past few games there's a massive amount of see-sawing opinions from week to week on him depending on what the result is. Wish some people would just have some time to think and not hit the roof about everything. Most football fans are like that to some degree, just some worse than others. For example, when Leon Best scored his hat trick against West Ham, it was hilarious. People who had been saying how shite he was for months on end suddenly said "oh he's a great finisher" "I knew he'd come good" "Quality striker, going to get better and better" and then started singing his name! Fans are fickle by their very nature, just varying degrees of fickleness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I like Pardew, but statistically he isn't doing well. G W D L Win % 17 5 5 7 29.41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Not particularly, no. Then again, SAF would struggle to get anything out of some of the crap that have been getting a game recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Pardew or Hughton: Pardew because he is better equipped to take us forward http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,71438.msg2907768.html#msg2907768 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Pardew or Hughton: Pardew because he is the current manager and as if I'd say otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Pardew or Hughton: I have alot of respect for Chris and Alan is doing a great job. Can't choose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It's a miracle he got 5 wins and 5 draws with our strike force, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Pardew or Hughton: No disrespect like, but honestly, Pardew because he is better equipped to take us forward Fair enough. Good to hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I like Pardew, but statistically he isn't doing well. G W D L Win % 17 5 5 7 29.41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Just renamed my iPod to 'Pards'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Pardew or Hughton: Pardew because he is the current manager and as if I'd say otherwise Exactly. What a pointless question to ask ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Just because you don't like the answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Just because you don't like the answer Couldn't give a fuck about the answer, because it's worthless. Even if he preferred Hughton as manager, he wouldn't say so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Just because you don't like the answer Couldn't give a f*** about the answer, because it's worthless. Even if he preferred Hughton as manager, he wouldn't say so. AS JH said, why he couldn't he just say that he respected them both or that they are both good in their own ways? You think Pardew gonna drop him for saying that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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