Alan Pardew

[AlanSkÃrare]

Much of what he says goes to show that he'd like to do something else than he's doing. In that ESPN video that someone posted, someone said he's a manager who'll say he wants to play good football but revert to direct hoofing. It seems that way.

[Interpolic]

Much of what he says goes to show that he'd like to do something else than he's doing. In that ESPN video that someone posted, someone said he's a manager who'll say he wants to play good football but revert to direct hoofing. It seems that way.

 

Or that he's desperate to dress it up as something that it's not.

[Ikon]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability

to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

[eliassenfredrik]

So... with a full week to decide on a team and tactics the idiot came up with the bright idea of playing the atrocious Obertan in a withdrawn striker role?! The man is cluelless and this one act alone speaks volumes of his ineptitude. His tactics are actually hurting the team and our better players. Cabaye looks lost. Tiote doesn't know where to go or what do do and Ba cuts a frustrated figure up front.

 

In the first half we played well enough. We mixed our game and got into several good positions, causing Arsenal a few problems. Our goal was fully justified because we carried a threat. They equalised not long after of course but we were still in the game and things were pretty even despite Arsenal naturally having more of the ball.

 

We go in at 1-1. I guarantee as soon as the lads got into that dressing room Pardew's half-time team-talk will have centred on not the positives, but the negatives and I also guarantee the instructions for the second-half will have been to settle for the draw, contain and to keep them out. We went out set up in a negative frame of mind and with negative long ball tactics. Arsenal did to us in that half what we did to the mackems in the second half of the derby, they penned us back and we barely got out of our own half. Unlike us against the mackems though, we basically allowed Arsenal to do this by lumping it long and dropping deep.

 

Once again, Shola Ameobi comes on and the first two players he goes to are Tiote and Cabaye. I don't know what he said but those two players after he had words with them dropped even deeper and played the ball long even more. Pardew clearly thought they were playing too far forward and he was clearly worried about us losing possession by playing the ball around in midfield.

 

back to Obertan... honestly, what possessed him to dream up this role for him and starting him? He had 7 f***ing whole days to come up with a plan and this was his plan? Naturally Obertan was f***ing woeful, AGAIN!

 

Our form in the second half of the season is alarming and more like mid-table or worse than top 6. Now that Ba isn't scoring, we are struggling and Pardew has no answers and even when he does try to answer things, he gets it wrong.

 

This second half of the season is the real Alan Pardew and its simply not good enough, not with these players and this team.

 

My brother in law was there last night and is a massive Arsenal fan, he couldn't believe how rubbish we were, especially second half. He regularly tells me Colo, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa and Ba would walk into the Arsenal side. That's half of our side.

 

Get rid in the summer. Hopefully the FA will try and nab him when Harry turns them down.

 

Have to agree with this. That Obertan actually started is the biggest joke. Ba could easily have played the role Obertan had yesterday, and Cissé should have started up front.

 

And Pardew's defensive close the shop-instructions strips Cabaye from all his key qualities, and he's left chasing Arsenal's one-two play like a headless chicken using all his energy. And because of the long ball tactics that started so many of Arsenal's counter attacks, our team was out of balance, meaning our pressure and attempts to retain the ball were one by one in stead of collectively. Which is hopeless when you look at the speed and agility of the Arsenal players.

[Guest Dontooner]

Very good door to door Sales Man but like all goods that has to be sold that way.......they are either cheap,unsellable or defects.

[Doug]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

[Dr Venkman]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

By playing it to the feet of one of the midfielders? They can do that, it's a 10/15 yard pass, i can do that!

[Ikon]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

 

Read my post!! And surely it's harder to make a long pass with quality than the shorter option when not under big pressure. Christ..

[Guest Dontooner]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

Personally, i think they are under instructions to hoof the ball when under pressure or to pass it back to krul to repeat the cycle. If they werent under instructions they would have made more misplace wayward passes, i think pardew prefer not to loose the ball in key dangerous areas hence the strict tactic. Actually, too much focus is being debated on the defence, the midfield that has balls of chains on them are the problem. Attacking wise, we have very little to offer if its Pardew's choice of 11.

[Doug]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

 

Read my post!! And surely it's harder to make a long pass with quality than the shorter option when not under big pressure. Christ..

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

Personally, i think they are under instructions to hoof the ball when under pressure or to pass it back to krul to repeat the cycle. If they werent under instructions they would have made more misplace wayward passes, i think pardew prefer not to loose the ball in key dangerous areas hence the strict tactic. Actually, too much focus is being debated on the defence, the midfield that has balls of chains on them are the problem. Attacking wise, we have very little to offer if its Pardew's choice of 11.

You may have a point. It could be Pardew would like to play more inventively from the back but he is limited by the number of quality defenders he has. I think he would like to have signed a footballing defender in January but that opens up another story about the tight miserable barstards above him.

[Ikon]

Nah, i'll rather give up.

[colinmk]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

By playing it to the feet of one of the midfielders? They can do that, it's a 10/15 yard pass, i can do that!

 

You can't train players of their level of these to do this, it's just not possible. Last week I was watching a team in the first division in Scotland doing it, must have been off my tits though because it's impossible.

[Ikon]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

By playing it to the feet of one of the midfielders? They can do that, it's a 10/15 yard pass, i can do that!

 

You can't train players of their level of these to do this, it's just not possible. Last week I was watching a team in the first division in Scotland doing it, must have been off my tits though because it's impossible.

 

Dog on drugs

[Darth Crooks]

This page makes zero sense so far like

[thedudeabides]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

Personally, i think they are under instructions to hoof the ball when under pressure or to pass it back to krul to repeat the cycle. If they werent under instructions they would have made more misplace wayward passes, i think pardew prefer not to loose the ball in key dangerous areas hence the strict tactic. Actually, too much focus is being debated on the defence, the midfield that has balls of chains on them are the problem. Attacking wise, we have very little to offer if its Pardew's choice of 11.

 

The midfield is the problem in my opinion:

 

Tiote - Ball winning midfielder, offers next to nothing going forward. Excellent last season, only played well in a couple of games this time round.

Cabaye - Deep lying playmaker, good passer and decent shot on him but offers little else going forward. Has been very poor since Man Utd.

Jonas - Plenty of graft but little craft. Looks jaded.

Guthrie - Neat and tidy player but not enough pace to be an attacking force.

Taylor - Decent set pieces but little else.

Obertan - Raw with pace, but no brain. Offers next to nothing going forward.

Vukic - Talented but too slow for PL. Not ready.

Ben Arfa - Extremely talented and exciting but can be just as frustrating. Looks back to full fitness and strentgh so has to start now. Our only attacking midfielder.

 

Ben Arfa aside, where are these attacking options you talk of?

 

[Guest BooBoo]

Fair point really. I hoped Cabaye would have been a ceative force this year but he's only really shown glimpses. In general though our midfield is poor at creating chances or threading through balls. When was the last time a striker of ours had a one on one chance?

[BottledDog]

Fair point really. I hoped Cabaye would have been a ceative force this year but he's only really shown glimpses. In general though our midfield is poor at creating chances or threading through balls. When was the last time a striker of ours had a one on one chance?

 

Yup. The closest to a decent through ball against Liverpool was from Perch.

[Guest Dontooner]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

Personally, i think they are under instructions to hoof the ball when under pressure or to pass it back to krul to repeat the cycle. If they werent under instructions they would have made more misplace wayward passes, i think pardew prefer not to loose the ball in key dangerous areas hence the strict tactic. Actually, too much focus is being debated on the defence, the midfield that has balls of chains on them are the problem. Attacking wise, we have very little to offer if its Pardew's choice of 11.

 

The midfield is the problem in my opinion:

 

Tiote - Ball winning midfielder, offers next to nothing going forward. Excellent last season, only played well in a couple of games this time round.

Cabaye - Deep lying playmaker, good passer and decent shot on him but offers little else going forward. Has been very poor since Man Utd.

Jonas - Plenty of graft but little craft. Looks jaded.

Guthrie - Neat and tidy player but not enough pace to be an attacking force.

Taylor - Decent set pieces but little else.

Obertan - Raw with pace, but no brain. Offers next to nothing going forward.

Vukic - Talented but too slow for PL. Not ready.

Ben Arfa - Extremely talented and exciting but can be just as frustrating. Looks back to full fitness and strentgh so has to start now. Our only attacking midfielder.

 

Ben Arfa aside, where are these attacking options you talk of?

 

The problem is not the players themselves but how they need to take risk and find space between opposition players and pass into space when in possession. Currently the team is playing very deep especially the middle two in order to protect the back 4 and this is with or without the ball. Personally, i think its under instructions, thats why teams need to try harder to break us down since very little can go through our middle. However, these defensive tactics anchors our midfield players in very specific zones only, definitely in the wrong zones when in possession.

 

I think if the midfield 4 is allowed to move out of their own positions and overlap one another it will open up more space, in theory Cabaye has the ball at feet runs towards Ben Arfa and they overlap and change positions, or generally when Obertan goes on his diagonal runs from the right to the left it would naturally open up space.

The top teams have their midfielders moving about and covering one another but this needs a good system when everybody knows  their roles. There is risk to moving players around but if use in the right way, it becomes less predictable, and much harder to defend against. In fact we are especially bad at counter attacking, which puzzles me because we are an inviting pressure team and in theory the opposition will need to lead a very high line. We dont have a counter attacking game plan or is coach properly into one which is a shame.

 

We can play better football and it would be proven sooner or later. I dont think we have a group of players incapable moving and passing, , its probably the tactics that limit that part of their game. The fact is there are teams that has inferior players to us but their managers have them overachieving in possession and attacking plays. The same for us Pardew has some of our shit defenders Overachieving in their defensive games , and looking quite the player...too bad its at the expense of the attacking players. Its always give and take, you can never gain something without another in exchange.

 

 

[thedudeabides]

With a back 4 containing only two comfortable footballers you cannot play passing football built from the back.

That is the simple reason why Krul has to club the ball forward on a regular basis. If Colo or Santon are not showing or are closed down what else can Krul be expected to do.

Pardew would be better off picking 3  defenders and getting the most creative of his remaining wide men to work the flanks box to box.

 

No offense, but this is bullshit, OK, you might not be able to play as tight and risky, but other teams with poor "footballers" manage to play it from the back ten times more often than us.

I must be mistaken then,

Please tell me how you are going to get the other half of our back four to play this creative football, I am keen to be enlightened further by you.

 

Surely there's a difference between playing "creative foootball" and not hoofing it so much?  Don't know if it's Pardew's tactics or whatever, but surely these two are capable of passing the ball on the deck a helluva lot more often than they do now?

 

Dunno how many times i've seen them try for the longer option when not even under pressure, and they simply don't have the footballing ability to do this with quality anyway, that's why i think it would be better to not hoof it as much unless it's a risky pass. Don't know what more to say/how to explain it to you.

I think you just answered our question right there.

Personally, i think they are under instructions to hoof the ball when under pressure or to pass it back to krul to repeat the cycle. If they werent under instructions they would have made more misplace wayward passes, i think pardew prefer not to loose the ball in key dangerous areas hence the strict tactic. Actually, too much focus is being debated on the defence, the midfield that has balls of chains on them are the problem. Attacking wise, we have very little to offer if its Pardew's choice of 11.

 

The midfield is the problem in my opinion:

 

Tiote - Ball winning midfielder, offers next to nothing going forward. Excellent last season, only played well in a couple of games this time round.

Cabaye - Deep lying playmaker, good passer and decent shot on him but offers little else going forward. Has been very poor since Man Utd.

Jonas - Plenty of graft but little craft. Looks jaded.

Guthrie - Neat and tidy player but not enough pace to be an attacking force.

Taylor - Decent set pieces but little else.

Obertan - Raw with pace, but no brain. Offers next to nothing going forward.

Vukic - Talented but too slow for PL. Not ready.

Ben Arfa - Extremely talented and exciting but can be just as frustrating. Looks back to full fitness and strentgh so has to start now. Our only attacking midfielder.

 

Ben Arfa aside, where are these attacking options you talk of?

 

The problem is not the players themselves but how they need to take risk and find space between opposition players and pass into space when in possession. Currently the team is playing very deep especially the middle two in order to protect the back 4 and this is with or without the ball. Personally, i think its under instructions, thats why teams need to try harder to break us down since very little can go through our middle. However, these defensive tactics anchors our midfield players in very specific zones only, definitely in the wrong zones when in possession.

 

I think if the midfield 4 is allowed to move out of their own positions and overlap one another it will open up more space, in theory Cabaye has the ball at feet runs towards Ben Arfa and they overlap and change positions, or generally when Obertan goes on his diagonal runs from the right to the left it would naturally open up space.

The top teams have their midfielders moving about and covering one another but this needs a good system when everybody knows  their roles. There is risk to moving players around but if use in the right way, it becomes less predictable, and much harder to defend against. In fact we are especially bad at counter attacking, which puzzles me because we are an inviting pressure team and in theory the opposition will need to lead a very high line. We dont have a counter attacking game plan or is coach properly into one which is a shame.

 

We can play better football and it would be proven sooner or later. I dont think we have a group of players incapable moving and passing, , its probably the tactics that limit that part of their game. The fact is there are teams that has inferior players to us but their managers have them overachieving in possession and attacking plays. The same for us Pardew has some of our s*** defenders Overachieving in their defensive games , and looking quite the player...too bad its at the expense of the attacking players. Its always give and take, you can never gain something without another in exchange.

 

 

 

Cabaye is not comfortable running with the ball, he's a deep lying playmaker with little pace who is uncomfotable in the final third of the pitch. As is Tiote. And Jonas.

 

 

[Guest BooBoo]

Fucking fed up with this nonsensical "deep lying playmaker" phrase. What does that even mean? A so-so midfielder who plays short passes, likes to tackle and takes mostly average set pieces?

[thedudeabides]

Fair point really. I hoped Cabaye would have been a ceative force this year but he's only really shown glimpses. In general though our  midfield is poor at creating chances or threading through balls. When was the last time a striker of ours had a one on one chance?

 

They are indeed. And we get nothing from the fullbacks too.

 

 

[thedudeabides]

f***ing fed up with this nonsensical "deep lying playmaker" phrase. What does that even mean? A so-so midfielder who plays short passes, likes to tackle and takes mostly average set pieces?

 

It was Championship Manager speak, and a little tongue in cheek on my behalf.

 

A one paced midfielder if you will.

[Guest BooBoo]

As a phrase it suggests a defensive midfielder who pings balls right left and centre, creating chances.

 

Which isn't Yohan at all really.

[Guest NobbyOhNobby]

Does nobody else find it strange that Pardew isn't playing the one player who's actally suited to hoofball - Shola. If Pardew's going to play these horrid tactics then Shola has to start, he's our sole physical presence up front. I'd rather he picked the right team for the tactics rather than doing something as obviously stupid as playing Obertan yesterday. That decision was mind boggling. Like Venkman said earlier, why not play Ba in the Obertan role with Cisse? But that wouldn't have solved the issue of our dreadful tactics. If we had still been intent on hoofing the ball, Cisse wouldn't have been able to make the ball stick, he's no target man. It would've been pointless. He needs to wake up and see the players that we have at our disposal, and do something positive with them. Imagine if Brendan Rodgers was our manager? Imagine what he could do with our players.

[Guest Dontooner]

Just to add, although Liverpool is slightly off us a couple of points, but they are a good example of pass and move and overlapping players to find space. I believe they have quite a solid defensive record as well. I know its Kenny's team but he has them playing the right way, they will get better as the seasonS go. Its possible to play football even with bad players, its just the system that is set in place from the Manager's philosophy. However i must repeat, it doesnt necessarily yield results especially when you have a negative Manager Example like Sam Alla trying to do a Keegan. That is ultimately the reason why i dont rate Pardew, as i see him too late in his age to transit his system and game plan. I think we are stuck with an more negative approach to games as long as he is in charge.