Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 By whom, Krul, Danny Simpson and Mike Williamson? Wake up and take a look at these players when they have the ball. You've named 2 out of 10 outfield players who can't, any more? 'From the back.' 3 out of 5, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm fairly sure Krul could knock if 15 yards to a fullback if Pardew asked like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I think Wullie's point about MoN wasn't to compare him with Keegan, it was more to rubbish this notion that Pardew hasn't got the players to play football on the deck. It's utter s*** as far as I'm concerned, we have more than good enough footballers, but Pardew hasn't got either the balls or the coaching ability to encourage football played from the back. By whom, Krul, Danny Simpson and Mike Williamson? Wake up and take a look at these players when they have the ball. Think the truth lies somewhere in between the two extremes, they're rubbish on the ball but not as bad as they look due to the tactics we employ most of the time. I think they could play a 10/15 yard pass into midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 They distribute the ball better from the back, yes. I know they do, that's my point. It's because they are encouraged to by their manager in my view, not because they've suddenly become much better footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Or you'll do what? Throw shit at you like a monkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm fairly sure Krul could knock if 15 yards to a fullback if Pardew asked like. Let's hope he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I think Wullie's point about MoN wasn't to compare him with Keegan, it was more to rubbish this notion that Pardew hasn't got the players to play football on the deck. It's utter s*** as far as I'm concerned, we have more than good enough footballers, but Pardew hasn't got either the balls or the coaching ability to encourage football played from the back. By whom, Krul, Danny Simpson and Mike Williamson? Wake up and take a look at these players when they have the ball. Think the truth lies somewhere in between the two extremes, they're rubbish on the ball but not as bad as they look due to the tactics we employ most of the time. I think they could play a 10/15 yard pass into midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm fairly sure Krul could knock if 15 yards to a fullback if Pardew asked like. Let's hope he doesn't. Because he can't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 They distribute the ball better from the back, yes. I know they do, that's my point. It's because they are encouraged to by their manager in my view, not because they've suddenly become much better footballers. You don't think the likes of Richardson, Bridge, Bardsley and O'Shea are better on the ball than 3/4 of our most frequent back 4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 By whom, Krul, Danny Simpson and Mike Williamson? Wake up and take a look at these players when they have the ball. You've named 2 out of 10 outfield players who can't, any more? 'From the back.' 3 out of 5, actually. We've usually got Tiote and/or Cabaye starting from deep so it wouldn't take much of a pass to find one of those two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'd much rather Krul gave it to the midfield than us play it from the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I just want Krul to stop hoofing it to two forwards that aren't suited to that style. He can throw it, header it, scissor kick it out for all I care. Just do it quickly and put it into a player's feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 So we're going to play it our from Krul, on the deck, but not involve Simpson, Williamson or Raylor (if he plays). Hmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Keep calm and pass to Coloccini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Keep calm and pass to Coloccini Amen. He should start at least 75% of our sortees forward from the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Williamson and Simpson are getting stick for not being able to kick a ball, I don't remember too many complaints last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Williamson and Simpson are getting stick for not being able to kick a ball, I don't remember too many complaints last season. We had a striker who could hod the ball up for the first half of the season last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Williamson and Simpson are getting stick for not being able to kick a ball, I don't remember too many complaints last season. Or the first 12 games of this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 They distribute the ball better from the back, yes. I know they do, that's my point. It's because they are encouraged to by their manager in my view, not because they've suddenly become much better footballers. You don't think the likes of Richardson, Bridge, Bardsley and O'Shea are better on the ball than 3/4 of our most frequent back 4? If Kieron Richardson can be considered a full back, why not Shane Ferguson? Put Santon on the other side and you have two full backs more than capable of bringing the ball out and Coloccini is better than most so that leaves us with one hammer thrower in Williamson. It's all down to how you set your team up at the end of the day and Pardew is stuck between two stools at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Bit of variety wouldn't go amiss, especially when the ball keeps returning. Doesn't take a fuking mastermind to work that out, and on that I reckon Pardew will have it figured out before the end of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Keep calm and pass to Coloccini Amen. He should start at least 75% of our sortees forward from the back ironically Colo isn't averse to the odd long ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Keep calm and pass to Coloccini Amen. He should start at least 75% of our sortees forward from the back ironically Colo isn't averse to the odd long ball That's only because the nearest midfielders are alongside him defending for their life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Keep calm and pass to Coloccini Amen. He should start at least 75% of our sortees forward from the back ironically Colo isn't averse to the odd long ball That's only because the nearest midfielders are alongside him defending for their life. True - but the point is we need to change more than just Krul hoying the ball out to Colo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 They distribute the ball better from the back, yes. I know they do, that's my point. It's because they are encouraged to by their manager in my view, not because they've suddenly become much better footballers. You don't think the likes of Richardson, Bridge, Bardsley and O'Shea are better on the ball than 3/4 of our most frequent back 4? If Kieron Richardson can be considered a full back, why not Shane Ferguson? How many times has Shane started at full back for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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