LFEE Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Some good posts all round... But I go back to what I said earlier in the summer... The amount of publicity our scouting system was getting with AP and Carr giving the interviews and every Radio/TV pundit actually knowing our scouts name etc was in my opinion always going to have repercussions when it came to future transfers windows... We should of kept a much lower profile and just got on with business... It's only clever finding these players if they actually end up playing for us... FWIW i think/hope we'll get Debuchy and possibly Anita last few weeks of the window and maybe forward for the bench in January... Douglas may come in January but have feeling we'll look again next summer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 FWIW i think/hope we'll get Debuchy and possibly Anita last few weeks of the window and maybe forward for the bench in January... Douglas may come in January but have feeling we'll look again next summer... Can i just say i would be fine with this as long as Saylor can stay fit till January and Ivory Coast beat Senegal in the AFCON qualifier. It's far from ideal, but i would be ok with it as long we do get the rest of the targets in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Some good posts all round... But I go back to what I said earlier in the summer... The amount of publicity our scouting system was getting with AP and Carr giving the interviews and every Radio/TV pundit actually knowing our scouts name etc was in my opinion always going to have repercussions when it came to future transfers windows... We should of kept a much lower profile and just got on with business... It's only clever finding these players if they actually end up playing for us... FWIW i think/hope we'll get Debuchy and possibly Anita last few weeks of the window and maybe forward for the bench in January... Douglas may come in January but have feeling we'll look again next summer... I don't think we deliberately went for higher profile for our scouts etc. If you have this much success, you will become well known. You're right though, the fact we are now famous for getting a bargain is bound to count against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 FWIW i think/hope we'll get Debuchy and possibly Anita last few weeks of the window and maybe forward for the bench in January... Douglas may come in January but have feeling we'll look again next summer... Can i just say i would be fine with this as long as Saylor can stay fit till January and Ivory Coast beat Senegal in the AFCON qualifier. It's far from ideal, but i would be ok with it as long we do get the rest of the targets in January. It seems quite clear Debuchy is our main target and to a lesser extent (maybe due to how well Bigi has done) Anita is our next target alongside Douglas... But as for a forward i'm struggling to think who they have in mind with them missing out on LDJ... Only links of any credibility have been Carroll (which to me doesn't seem a good fit) and Loic Remy... Although the window has been frustrating it's made the last few weeks very intriguing and i think will be very telling of MA ambitions with the club... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Some good posts all round... But I go back to what I said earlier in the summer... The amount of publicity our scouting system was getting with AP and Carr giving the interviews and every Radio/TV pundit actually knowing our scouts name etc was in my opinion always going to have repercussions when it came to future transfers windows... We should of kept a much lower profile and just got on with business... It's only clever finding these players if they actually end up playing for us... FWIW i think/hope we'll get Debuchy and possibly Anita last few weeks of the window and maybe forward for the bench in January... Douglas may come in January but have feeling we'll look again next summer... I don't think we deliberately went for higher profile for our scouts etc. If you have this much success, you will become well known. You're right though, the fact we are now famous for getting a bargain is bound to count against us. So why let your chief scout do interviews for the media? Or your team manager to discuss it in length in the media... I don't have any knowledge of this going on at any other club... apart from Daniel Levy likes to drive a hard bargain perhaps... Just all seemed very unnecessary and a little self-congratuatly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Some good posts all round... But I go back to what I said earlier in the summer... The amount of publicity our scouting system was getting with AP and Carr giving the interviews and every Radio/TV pundit actually knowing our scouts name etc was in my opinion always going to have repercussions when it came to future transfers windows... We should of kept a much lower profile and just got on with business... It's only clever finding these players if they actually end up playing for us... FWIW i think/hope we'll get Debuchy and possibly Anita last few weeks of the window and maybe forward for the bench in January... Douglas may come in January but have feeling we'll look again next summer... I don't think we deliberately went for higher profile for our scouts etc. If you have this much success, you will become well known. You're right though, the fact we are now famous for getting a bargain is bound to count against us. So why let your chief scout do interviews for the media? Or your team manager to discuss it in length in the media... I don't have any knowledge of this going on at any other club... apart from Daniel Levy likes to drive a hard bargain perhaps... Just all seemed very unnecessary and a little self-congratuatly... At the same time though, it might work in our favour. If we put in an offer for a player the selling club knows we are not going to be held to ransom. If the player expresses an interest in joining us and then lets their club know, then it might help to net us a bargain. We've shown that we're happy to bide our time with players so the pressure is on the selling club - either put up with a disgruntled player or sell him at a reasonable price to his preferred buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 But we can do all that and keep a lower profile... Chairman/Owners hate having their faces rubbed in it... You only have to listen to the interview with the Peterbrough owner the other day talking about transfer deals and all the egos involved... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Watching this advert on the telly all the time really makes me want to get the Alan Pardew chant going. Some of the lads on here tried it at Blackburn last season. Great chant IMO. We've got (clap, clap) Alan Pardew We've got (clap, clap) Alan Pardew Yes we've got (clap, clap) Alan Pardew So glad you're mine! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 No. It's actually the same attitude that's seen us progress since we were in the Championship, by only doing deals when they're right for the club in the long term. This, supporting Newcastle is about patience nowadays. I'm pretty sure we'll get two new players in before the window and I've stopped worrying who they are and where they'll play. We've got a great squad for the league but will struggle to cope with the cups. We always would unless our squad was five players deeper. I think we do the best business in the league so let's continue as we have done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 No. It's actually the same attitude that's seen us progress since we were in the Championship, by only doing deals when they're right for the club in the long term. This, supporting Newcastle is about patience nowadays. I'm pretty sure we'll get two new players in before the window and I've stopped worrying who they are and where they'll play. We've got a great squad for the league but will struggle to cope with the cups. We always would unless our squad was five players deeper. I think we do the best business in the league so let's continue as we have done Think we're relying on the development squad to provide the extra depth needed for Europe. A mix of first teamers and kids should be more than enough to get us through the group stages. Once we're in the elimination rounds we can start thinking about playing something closer to a full-strength squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Feeling the pressure Al? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4484095/Alan-Pardew-hits-out-at-agents-over-slow-transfer-window.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Well that was certainly an "astonishing attack". Incredibly strong words there from Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Feeling the pressure Al? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4484095/Alan-Pardew-hits-out-at-agents-over-slow-transfer-window.html What a fucking waste of space of an article. Wouldn't expect anything less from that paper though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 How do they get away with articles like that :lol: Its so incredibly bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Express have it as well tbf http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/339470? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 "Astonishing attack" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 That's some tirade at that article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Anyone going to the AP & JC talk-in tonight?... Hopefully we'll get a better idea where we're at with transfers and playing style etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Express have it as well tbf http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/339470? Its hardly an attack though is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Express have it as well tbf http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/339470? He was just saying what and why things have been slow. Hardly an attack or a slam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Express have it as well tbf http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/339470? He was just saying what and why things have been slow. Hardly an attack or a slam. You avatar man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Saying that like, we can hardly talk about valuations. You want the best, you have to pay the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 There comes a point though where it is just ridiculous: Wolves wanting £20million for Fletcher is a good example, ludicrous over valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Express have it as well tbf http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/339470? He was just saying what and why things have been slow. Hardly an attack or a slam. You avatar man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 There comes a point though where it is just ridiculous: Wolves wanting £20million for Fletcher is a good example, ludicrous over valuation. I would say that is low considering the mackems are involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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