AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 We'll have a dilemma if he plays three or four good games before the end of the season. In a way I hope he doesn't play at all, so we won't have to take a risk on him permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Villa ticket on sale now, imagine we'll regale those good humoured brummies with a good-natured round of "Ireland was right, Birmingham's shite" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 What an absolute joke this guy is, I would rather just send him back to Villa now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 One season wonder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I can't feel too much spite towards him tbh, probably couldn't believe his luck when we came calling offering a change of scenery for a couple of months when he's injured anyway. Just another farcical decision by NUFC, and similar to the Gosling deal I see it more of taking a punt on getting a decent player on the cheap rather than with any real consideration for the team's needs. Everything we do is centered around the smallest possible financial risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I can't feel too much spite towards him tbh, probably couldn't believe his luck when we came calling offering a change of scenery for a couple of months when he's injured anyway. Just another farcical decision by NUFC, and similar to the Gosling deal I see it more of taking a punt on getting a decent player on the cheap rather than with any real consideration for the team's needs. Everything we do is centered around the smallest possible financial risk. Signing players when injured is not a small financial risk tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It is if you're not paying them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It is if you're not paying them. If your not paying for wages then aye, but we are paying Gosling and Ireland decent wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I thought we weren't paying Ireland until he plays? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 We're not playing Ireland anything while he's injured if our resident forum optimist is to be believed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It is if you're not paying them. If your not paying for wages then aye, but we are paying Gosling and Ireland decent wages. i doubt gosling's getting much like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I thought we weren't paying Ireland until he plays? I've heard nothing about that, I thought we were paying part of his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It is if you're not paying them. If your not paying for wages then aye, but we are paying Gosling and Ireland decent wages. i doubt gosling's getting much like? Enough to by a £800,000 house in October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If he's not back and playing by the end of the loan we should just leave him. Too much of a risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I thought we weren't paying Ireland until he plays? I've heard nothing about that, I thought we were paying part of his wages. Ireland's father said that it was part of the deal that we didn't pay till he was on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If he's not back and playing by the end of the loan we should just leave him. Too much of a risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 For God's sake. He's injured! He didn't force himself on the club. If anyone's the complete joke, it's the person who sanctioned the deal, not the player himself. I think a lot of fans just love to hate footballers generally as they wish they made it themselves!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If he's not back and playing by the end of the loan we should just leave him. Too much of a risk. Disagree? Splashing the cash for a nutcase struggling with injuries and playing s*** for Villa for quite some time is wrong/ too big of a big risk imo. I he had shown he still had it here - why not - but obviously he hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I can't feel too much spite towards him tbh, probably couldn't believe his luck when we came calling offering a change of scenery for a couple of months when he's injured anyway. Just another farcical decision by NUFC, and similar to the Gosling deal I see it more of taking a punt on getting a decent player on the cheap rather than with any real consideration for the team's needs. Everything we do is centered around the smallest possible financial risk. agreed. personally hope we dont sign him permanently as there's better players out there and with all his baggage he's too much of a risk. with the extra carroll money, and having had a few months to plan out transfer targets, hopefully we can find better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If he's not back and playing by the end of the loan we should just leave him. Too much of a risk. Disagree? Splashing the cash for a nutcase struggling with injuries and playing s*** for Villa for quite some time is wrong/ too big of a big risk imo. I he had shown he still had it here - why not - but obviously he hasn't. I was laughing because that was the ultimate statement of the blatently obvious. As if anyone would think Ashley is going to sanction signing him if he doesnt even get fit while here now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If he's not back and playing by the end of the loan we should just leave him. Too much of a risk. Disagree? Splashing the cash for a nutcase struggling with injuries and playing s*** for Villa for quite some time is wrong/ too big of a big risk imo. I he had shown he still had it here - why not - but obviously he hasn't. I was laughing because that was the ultimate statement of the blatently obvious. As if anyone would think Ashley is going to sanction signing him if he doesnt even get fit while here now. Ben Arfa was signed for £5m despite having a broken leg (after playing 2 games) and without the club having any reasonable idea of what he'll be like when he returns. Could say the same about Gosling, who no doubt would have been given a decent signing-on fee as a Bosman. So Ireland being signed irrespective of fitness is not all that unlikely tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I think Ben Arfa is likely to be an exception. The chance to sign a player of his ability for that money is too good to turn down, especially since his leg break seems to have been pretty clean. Even Gosling was a pretty unique situation... a chance to pick up a good young player for almost nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Wonder what kind of wages he'll be willing to drop to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If he's not back and playing by the end of the loan we should just leave him. Too much of a risk. Disagree? Splashing the cash for a nutcase struggling with injuries and playing s*** for Villa for quite some time is wrong/ too big of a big risk imo. I he had shown he still had it here - why not - but obviously he hasn't. I was laughing because that was the ultimate statement of the blatently obvious. As if anyone would think Ashley is going to sanction signing him if he doesnt even get fit while here now. Ben Arfa was signed for £5m despite having a broken leg (after playing 2 games) and without the club having any reasonable idea of what he'll be like when he returns. Could say the same about Gosling, who no doubt would have been given a decent signing-on fee as a Bosman. So Ireland being signed irrespective of fitness is not all that unlikely tbf. Gosling was a free. HBA was already here and was going to overcome his broken leg. We are talking about signing a bloke who has shown nothing either in fitness or form over a long period and has suffered niggling injuries in the whole time he has been on loan here. Its a different thing alltogether tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I think Ben Arfa is likely to be an exception. The chance to sign a player of his ability for that money is too good to turn down, especially since his leg break seems to have been pretty clean. But you could say the same about Ireland to an extent. When fit and on form and starring for a City side with a decent number of £20m+ players, he was undoubtedly a good player. And his injury (in theory) isn't a serious one that'll damage him physically. Not saying I believe this is the case, but I don't think it's too stretched to imagine Ashley looking at Ireland as a worthy gamble. Good age, of good calibre/talent, was performing well a few years ago, but is cheap now due to a drop in form in recent seasons (bit like Nolan when we signed him). If he turns things around then we get a valuable player who normally wouldn't be an option for us in for a low price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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