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If Fabregas had been told by Barca they'd give him a huge payrise compared to what he's on, went to the Arsenal chairman saying he wanted a new contract on similar to what he's being offered, was told no because it's not in the pay structure to do so, and then asked for a transfer before Barcelona then offered more than his market value, they'd not turn it down.

 

Give over man, Arsenal have got more money than they know what to do with anyway.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

And since we've regained our Premier League status have signed Tiote, Ben Arfa & Ireland on loan.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

Spurs and Arsenal are both very well run clubs and are not taking massive financial risks.

 

That's the reason why I have nothing against Spurs. . Unlike City and Chelsea, their success can be ascribed to the fact that they have a salary cap on players' salary and they have made some smart buys and sold them with huge profits. And they have picked up talents and honed them. Chelsea and City would have been nowhere if it wasn't for their owners' generosity.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

And since we've regained our Premier League status have signed Tiote, Ben Arfa & Ireland on loan.

 

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

Yeh, that was the reason why we want down.  :lol:

 

For the record I mean who've we signed and sold and the prices we've got for them etc.

 

P.S You've always striked me as a bit of an internet warrior.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

Yeh, that was the reason why we want down.  :lol:

 

For the record I mean who've we signed and sold and the prices we've got for them etc.

 

P.S You've always striked me as a bit of an internet warrior.

 

What the hell's an internet warrior?

 

I judge the success of transfers on what they do on the field, not what price you get for them at the end of it. The reason we went down was because the players weren't good enough - that's the players that we bought, you know, from transfers? And we didn't benefit from the ones we didn't have, because, you know, we'd transferred them?

 

Fucking hell.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

We'd have also stayed up if between them, Owen, Viduka, Nolan, Martins, etc. had managed one more goal between them which really shouldn't have been too much to ask?

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

We'd have also stayed up if between them, Owen, Viduka, Nolan, Martins, etc. had managed one more goal between them which really shouldn't have been too much to ask?

 

That's the second totally irrelevant reply you've made Nut. ???

 

They didn't, so obviously it was too much to ask. If you go down, you go down. They don't let you off because it was a close shave.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

Yeh, that was the reason why we want down.  :lol:

 

For the record I mean who've we signed and sold and the prices we've got for them etc.

 

P.S You've always striked me as a bit of an internet warrior.

 

What the hell's an internet warrior?

 

I judge the success of transfers on what they do on the field, not what price you get for them at the end of it. The reason we went down was because the players weren't good enough - that's the players that we bought, you know, from transfers? And we didn't benefit from the ones we didn't have, because, you know, we'd transferred them?

 

Fucking hell.

 

:lol:

 

Fuck me - managing a club made easy by Wullie.

 

So in your world the squad that went down was at least the 18th worst in the premiership?!  :lol:

 

I'm almost 100% certain that if Wenger left in the circumstances that Keegan did and Arsenal appointed Joe Kinnear then they'd go down too, in your world that would make there players not good enough either! Obviously this is all relatively moot as there's no way of knowing for sure but its laughable to suggest that the quality of the players was the reason we went down. The squad that went down was almost identical to the one that went up.

 

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

We'd have also stayed up if between them, Owen, Viduka, Nolan, Martins, etc. had managed one more goal between them which really shouldn't have been too much to ask?

 

That's the second totally irrelevant reply you've made Nut. ???

 

They didn't, so obviously it was too much to ask. If you go down, you go down. They don't let you off because it was a close shave.

 

What was irrelevant about the first reply? You said we went down due to bad transfers, all I'm saying is that since we've came back we've made some very good ones.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

Not without coherent management we wouldn't. We were a complete wreck management wise that season. They all wanted out anyway.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

The reason we went down was becasue we sold the shot stopping skills of Given? Yes, the consistent creativity and industry of N'Zogbia? Hmmm and the pin point crossing and penatrations of Milner? No

 

I'll leave it here before I turn it into one of 'those' threads. For the record i stand by my transfer claims.

 

 

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

Yeh, that was the reason why we want down.  :lol:

 

For the record I mean who've we signed and sold and the prices we've got for them etc.

 

P.S You've always striked me as a bit of an internet warrior.

 

What the hell's an internet warrior?

 

I judge the success of transfers on what they do on the field, not what price you get for them at the end of it. The reason we went down was because the players weren't good enough - that's the players that we bought, you know, from transfers? And we didn't benefit from the ones we didn't have, because, you know, we'd transferred them?

 

Fucking hell.

 

:lol:

 

Fuck me - managing a club made easy by Wullie.

 

So in your world the squad that went down was at least the 18th worst in the premiership?!  :lol:

 

I'm almost 100% certain that if Wenger left in the circumstances that Keegan did and Arsenal appointed Joe Kinnear then they'd go down too, in your world that would make there players not good enough either! Obviously this is all relatively moot as there's no way of knowing for sure but its laughable to suggest that the quality of the players was the reason we went down. The squad that went down was almost identical to the one that went up.

 

You laugh as if they didn't go down ffs.

 

Aye, Arsenal would have gone down, sensible comparison. :rolleyes:

 

West Brom have been relegated and subsequently promoted with the same squad about five times, does that mean they were actually good enough each time they got relegated, just badly managed? I'm actually embarrassed for you.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

The reason we went down was becasue we sold the shot stopping skills of Given? Yes, the consistent creativity and industry of N'Zogbia? Hmmm and the pin point crossing and penatrations of Milner? No

 

Like we'd have needed them to perform every week to get one more point.

 

Go and have a lie down.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

We'd have also stayed up if between them, Owen, Viduka, Nolan, Martins, etc. had managed one more goal between them which really shouldn't have been too much to ask?

 

That's the second totally irrelevant reply you've made Nut. ???

 

They didn't, so obviously it was too much to ask. If you go down, you go down. They don't let you off because it was a close shave.

 

What was irrelevant about the first reply? You said we went down due to bad transfers, all I'm saying is that since we've came back we've made some very good ones.

 

You're including Stephen Ireland on loan? :lol:

 

We've just sold our most important player, you might have missed that. I think that tips the balance.

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If we're talking about the financial running of the club alone, there's no argument that Ashley is doing a much better job.

 

The problem is that we're still in the spending bubble that means success in the Premier League is virtually impossible without taking massive financial risks or an owner investing vast amounts without hope of a return - neither of which Ashley is prepared to do.

 

Depends on your definition of success but I don't think that's true at all. I think the club would like you to think it though.

 

Well yeah, by success I was thinking European qualification and then pushing up into the top 4.

 

If by success you mean getting promoted and potentially finishing in the top half, then pushing on from there... we're already doing that.

 

Do you think Spurs are taking massive financial risks? Or even the mackems, who will probably still either bottle it or simply be caught by Liverpool, but are still very much in contention for Europe? Do you think Arsenal are taking massive financial risks?

 

How would you have gone about running the club? Serious question.

 

Thats a question to anyone bytheway.

 

 

Don't sell the best players?

 

Agenda aside id genuinely be interested in someones opinion as to what exactly they'd do differently. In terms of transfers I think we;ve been close to spot on in recent years. Even Spurs had to sell the likes of berba and carrick before they got estabilished.

 

If the money is spent wisely then we're on the right way in my opinioon. Obviosuly the biggest if going.

 

Aye, our transfers have been so spot on, we ended up going down. Jesus, man.

 

We went down due to the utter managerial shambles post Keegan. The squad, although it contained plenty of over paid under performers, was still good enough to be in the Premiership.

 

We'd have stayed up if we'd not sold Given, N'Zogbia and/or Milner.

 

We'd have also stayed up if between them, Owen, Viduka, Nolan, Martins, etc. had managed one more goal between them which really shouldn't have been too much to ask?

 

That's the second totally irrelevant reply you've made Nut. ???

 

They didn't, so obviously it was too much to ask. If you go down, you go down. They don't let you off because it was a close shave.

 

Actually, if the ref makes a correct call, one of that list gets the goal that keeps us up.

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It's a shame to say, but we have no ambiton.

 

I know our target was to simply stay up this year, but after quietley sneaking up the table, and getting a great team spirit together, Carroll leaving has but the brakes on abit.

 

I still can't beleive he went to Liverpool after his "I'm a geordie, and I want to stay here for the rest of my career" interview.

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