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That's a very smart plan for the future and seems to place the interests of supporters first.

 

It's an excellent idea to get season tickets sold for next year, there's no question about it, and it's a very good deal for ST holders, but I think it's more a short term fix to try and sell STs for next season despite the current disillusionment with the club rather than a smart plan for the long term future. I'd think most ST holders will take it up - there's only a 1 year tie-in - but longer term, in 5+ years time, we could be left behind other clubs with smaller crowds in match day revenues. Especially as we'll be in the Champions League and competing for the title by then. :harry:

 

Matchday revenue should still be £30m+, so at a modest 3% compound interest that's potentially (very roughly) £7m revenue lost in 2019, £8m in 2020, £9m in 2011, £10m in 2022.

 

It's an act borne of necessity rather than an altruistic move, and indicates we'll be trying to keep attendances up through price cuts (in real terms) rather than increasing the desire to go whatever the cost. It's a shame that wont be the case, but taking that into consideration this is a decent move in the circumstances, and quite frankly if it's to the benefit of match going supporters and keeps attendances up, it's better than the alternative of seeing a half empty St James' for a lot of less attractive league games next season.

 

Agreed, I think all clubs nowadays will be acting out of "necessity rather than altruism" but I think they've come up with an excellent balance here and packaged it well.

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FFS! My season ticket has now gone up from £390 to £558 at least (minus the 10% championship discount). Christ that is at least a £120 increase!

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

I think you're talking s***. Singing area is the only bit of the ground that seems to give a toss most of the time bar a small section of the Gallowgate

 

Agreed.

 

Haway man, you may be justified in trying to put a pessimistic negative spin on everything that happens at Newcastle to further your campaign, but you just said a couple of posts ago that you hardly ever attend SJP, so how can you comment on what the atmosphere is like ?

 

Of course I can comment on what the atmosphere is like. I've been to SJP 5 times this season, haven't been since Hughton was sacked. Even when we were beating Villa 4-0 the atmosphere was weak. The Blackpool match, I felt embarassed to be a Newcastle fan, 48,000 of our fans and 4,000 Blackpool supporters put us to shame.

 

I've been to 9/10 away matches a season for 3 or 4 years now. I'd rather spend my time, effort and money on going to away matches than St James', that's just what I prefer. How's that putting a negative spin on things? Muppet.

 

Insults from "United for Newcastle"  ;D

Recap man, you agreed with a statement that implies about 1500 fans in one section of the ground are the only ones who "give a toss". What about the other 48,000 of us who care enough to actually attend matches - are you saying we don't give a toss ?

And you're supposed to be some kind of fan's "spokesman" ?  Fackin mappet.

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Current season ticket holders will receive their renewal packs from the beginning of next week. The pack will include full details of the 10 year offer.

 

The final date for ST renewals is the end of April 2011.

 

Like shit i can/will make that decision by then, looks like i could end up moving seat if someone nicks mine :dave:

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any theories on why the club are extending the flexible capacity of the away end from 2,800 to 4,000?

 

doesnt make sense to me, majority of teams fail to sell their allocation anyway and the ones that do the games tend to be full houses eg. man utd, arsenal, sunderland, liverpool etc...

offering those teams 4,000 will only stop newcastle fans watching game at expense of them lot.  If there are gaps in seating for those games it tends to be around the premium areas and not that particular area of stadium maybe more should be done to encourage tickets to be sold i those areas, or am i just not seeing the bigger picture?

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

I think you're talking s***. Singing area is the only bit of the ground that seems to give a toss most of the time bar a small section of the Gallowgate

 

Agreed.

 

Haway man, you may be justified in trying to put a pessimistic negative spin on everything that happens at Newcastle to further your campaign, but you just said a couple of posts ago that you hardly ever attend SJP, so how can you comment on what the atmosphere is like ?

 

Of course I can comment on what the atmosphere is like. I've been to SJP 5 times this season, haven't been since Hughton was sacked. Even when we were beating Villa 4-0 the atmosphere was weak. The Blackpool match, I felt embarassed to be a Newcastle fan, 48,000 of our fans and 4,000 Blackpool supporters put us to shame.

 

I've been to 9/10 away matches a season for 3 or 4 years now. I'd rather spend my time, effort and money on going to away matches than St James', that's just what I prefer. How's that putting a negative spin on things? Muppet.

 

Insults from "United for Newcastle"  ;D

Recap man, you agreed with a statement that implies about 1500 fans in one section of the ground are the only ones who "give a toss". What about the other 48,000 of us who care enough to actually attend matches - are you saying we don't give a toss ?

And you're supposed to be some kind of fan's "spokesman" ?  Fackin mappet.

 

Not saying they don't "give a toss" just think the majority of fans inside SJP only get vocal when things are going wrong. Just attending matches doesn't make you a supporter. When have I ever described myself as a "fans spokesman?" Get a grip mate.

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any theories on why the club are extending the flexible capacity of the away end from 2,800 to 4,000?

 

doesnt make sense to me, majority of teams fail to sell their allocation anyway and the ones that do the games tend to be full houses eg. man utd, arsenal, sunderland, liverpool etc...

offering those teams 4,000 will only stop newcastle fans watching game at expense of them lot.  If there are gaps in seating for those games it tends to be around the premium areas and not that particular area of stadium maybe more should be done to encourage tickets to be sold i those areas, or am i just not seeing the bigger picture?

 

No idea but a 4000 area is going to look great with the 2 men and a dog that the likes of Fulham, Wigan and Bolton bring!

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

How can you try to create an atmosphere when you walk out of the ground when the team are 3-0 down?

 

I wasn't even at the match on Saturday. 

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FFS! My season ticket has now gone up from £390 to £558 at least (minus the 10% championship discount). Christ that is at least a £120 increase!

 

Hmm, the head line announcement seems to mask away the rises in season ticket prices for some people.  Bad PR by the club on that sense.

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Simple really - dont renew until Ashley invests money into the team in the summer, and for people in the Leazes corner enjoying the atmosphere there - just get your season ticket / match day tickets in the young persons & family section and the atmosphere in the corner continue's.

 

 

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

I think you're talking s***. Singing area is the only bit of the ground that seems to give a toss most of the time bar a small section of the Gallowgate

 

Agreed.

 

Haway man, you may be justified in trying to put a pessimistic negative spin on everything that happens at Newcastle to further your campaign, but you just said a couple of posts ago that you hardly ever attend SJP, so how can you comment on what the atmosphere is like ?

 

Of course I can comment on what the atmosphere is like. I've been to SJP 5 times this season, haven't been since Hughton was sacked. Even when we were beating Villa 4-0 the atmosphere was weak. The Blackpool match, I felt embarassed to be a Newcastle fan, 48,000 of our fans and 4,000 Blackpool supporters put us to shame.

 

I've been to 9/10 away matches a season for 3 or 4 years now. I'd rather spend my time, effort and money on going to away matches than St James', that's just what I prefer. How's that putting a negative spin on things? Muppet.

 

Insults from "United for Newcastle"  ;D

Recap man, you agreed with a statement that implies about 1500 fans in one section of the ground are the only ones who "give a toss". What about the other 48,000 of us who care enough to actually attend matches - are you saying we don't give a toss ?

And you're supposed to be some kind of fan's "spokesman" ?  Fackin mappet.

 

Not saying they don't "give a toss" just think the majority of fans inside SJP only get vocal when things are going wrong. Just attending matches doesn't make you a supporter. When have I ever described myself as a "fans spokesman?" Get a grip mate.

 

It bloody does when it's NUFC are concerned.

 

People support their team's in different ways, doesn't make them all or less supporters of NUFC.  To even bring about that because you sing at a match makes you a proper NUFC supporter shows a little bit of naivety in your part.

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

I think you're talking s***. Singing area is the only bit of the ground that seems to give a toss most of the time bar a small section of the Gallowgate

 

Agreed.

 

Haway man, you may be justified in trying to put a pessimistic negative spin on everything that happens at Newcastle to further your campaign, but you just said a couple of posts ago that you hardly ever attend SJP, so how can you comment on what the atmosphere is like ?

 

Of course I can comment on what the atmosphere is like. I've been to SJP 5 times this season, haven't been since Hughton was sacked. Even when we were beating Villa 4-0 the atmosphere was weak. The Blackpool match, I felt embarassed to be a Newcastle fan, 48,000 of our fans and 4,000 Blackpool supporters put us to shame.

 

I've been to 9/10 away matches a season for 3 or 4 years now. I'd rather spend my time, effort and money on going to away matches than St James', that's just what I prefer. How's that putting a negative spin on things? Muppet.

 

Insults from "United for Newcastle"  ;D

Recap man, you agreed with a statement that implies about 1500 fans in one section of the ground are the only ones who "give a toss". What about the other 48,000 of us who care enough to actually attend matches - are you saying we don't give a toss ?

And you're supposed to be some kind of fan's "spokesman" ?  Fackin mappet.

 

Not saying they don't "give a toss" just think the majority of fans inside SJP only get vocal when things are going wrong. Just attending matches doesn't make you a supporter. When have I ever described myself as a "fans spokesman?" Get a grip mate.

 

It bloody does when it's NUFC are concerned.

 

People support their team's in different ways, doesn't make them all or less supporters of NUFC.  To even bring about that because you sing at a match makes you a proper NUFC supporter shows a little bit of naivety in your part.

 

Didn't say that it makes you less of a supporter. Read my post again.

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any theories on why the club are extending the flexible capacity of the away end from 2,800 to 4,000?

 

doesnt make sense to me, majority of teams fail to sell their allocation anyway and the ones that do the games tend to be full houses eg. man utd, arsenal, sunderland, liverpool etc...

offering those teams 4,000 will only stop newcastle fans watching game at expense of them lot.  If there are gaps in seating for those games it tends to be around the premium areas and not that particular area of stadium maybe more should be done to encourage tickets to be sold i those areas, or am i just not seeing the bigger picture?

 

We're not going to be selling out many games next year by a long stretch. If we have a flexible away end which can seat 4,000, then it means for the underselling games the big gaps in the stadium will be concentrated as a security gap between the home fans and away fans, rather than spread out over the rest of the ground, and it makes the stadium look a little fuller.

 

Just a theory mind

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

I think you're talking s***. Singing area is the only bit of the ground that seems to give a toss most of the time bar a small section of the Gallowgate

 

Agreed.

 

Haway man, you may be justified in trying to put a pessimistic negative spin on everything that happens at Newcastle to further your campaign, but you just said a couple of posts ago that you hardly ever attend SJP, so how can you comment on what the atmosphere is like ?

 

Of course I can comment on what the atmosphere is like. I've been to SJP 5 times this season, haven't been since Hughton was sacked. Even when we were beating Villa 4-0 the atmosphere was weak. The Blackpool match, I felt embarassed to be a Newcastle fan, 48,000 of our fans and 4,000 Blackpool supporters put us to shame.

 

I've been to 9/10 away matches a season for 3 or 4 years now. I'd rather spend my time, effort and money on going to away matches than St James', that's just what I prefer. How's that putting a negative spin on things? Muppet.

 

Insults from "United for Newcastle"  ;D

Recap man, you agreed with a statement that implies about 1500 fans in one section of the ground are the only ones who "give a toss". What about the other 48,000 of us who care enough to actually attend matches - are you saying we don't give a toss ?

And you're supposed to be some kind of fan's "spokesman" ?  Fackin mappet.

 

Not saying they don't "give a toss" just think the majority of fans inside SJP only get vocal when things are going wrong. Just attending matches doesn't make you a supporter. When have I ever described myself as a "fans spokesman?" Get a grip mate.

 

It bloody does when it's NUFC are concerned.

 

People support their team's in different ways, doesn't make them all or less supporters of NUFC.  To even bring about that because you sing at a match makes you a proper NUFC supporter shows a little bit of naivety in your part.

 

Didn't say that it makes you less of a supporter. Read my post again.

 

So who are these people that attend matches that are not supporters.  Customers?

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So is this a monthly d/d? This would make a season ticket far more possible for me.

 

For me too providing i can get my mortgage down in 4 months

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Got to be honest the singing section hasn't been up to much for a while now sing a bit but not like they used to and yet for some reason they got massively reduced priced seats which seemed a little unfair as well so no really problems with the change

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FFS! My season ticket has now gone up from £390 to £558 at least (minus the 10% championship discount). Christ that is at least a £120 increase!

 

Where?

I'm assuming that's price change from singing section to next cheapest section unless your a youngin

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We should not need a singing end to create atmosphere.  I've said this before this season, but why do so many NUFC fans rely on others to start an atmosphere.  You should be trying to create an atmosphere for every game as we have proven on many occasions the crowd can be the 12th man.

 

I agree that the singing end with the Toon Ultras was full of twats.

 

I think you're talking s***. Singing area is the only bit of the ground that seems to give a toss most of the time bar a small section of the Gallowgate

 

Agreed.

 

Haway man, you may be justified in trying to put a pessimistic negative spin on everything that happens at Newcastle to further your campaign, but you just said a couple of posts ago that you hardly ever attend SJP, so how can you comment on what the atmosphere is like ?

 

Of course I can comment on what the atmosphere is like. I've been to SJP 5 times this season, haven't been since Hughton was sacked. Even when we were beating Villa 4-0 the atmosphere was weak. The Blackpool match, I felt embarassed to be a Newcastle fan, 48,000 of our fans and 4,000 Blackpool supporters put us to shame.

 

I've been to 9/10 away matches a season for 3 or 4 years now. I'd rather spend my time, effort and money on going to away matches than St James', that's just what I prefer. How's that putting a negative spin on things? Muppet.

 

Insults from "United for Newcastle"  ;D

Recap man, you agreed with a statement that implies about 1500 fans in one section of the ground are the only ones who "give a toss". What about the other 48,000 of us who care enough to actually attend matches - are you saying we don't give a toss ?

And you're supposed to be some kind of fan's "spokesman" ?  Fackin mappet.

 

Not saying they don't "give a toss" just think the majority of fans inside SJP only get vocal when things are going wrong. Just attending matches doesn't make you a supporter. When have I ever described myself as a "fans spokesman?" Get a grip mate.

 

It bloody does when it's NUFC are concerned.

 

People support their team's in different ways, doesn't make them all or less supporters of NUFC.  To even bring about that because you sing at a match makes you a proper NUFC supporter shows a little bit of naivety in your part.

 

Didn't say that it makes you less of a supporter. Read my post again.

 

So who are these people that attend matches that are not supporters.  Customers?

 

Not necessarily. Are you honestly telling me, that you think going to the match on a Saturday afternoon makes you a supporter? I was at the Fulham match last week, their home "support" is pitiful, and there are plenty of those types at SJP.

 

Anyway, that's not here nor there, I think you thought that I was insinuating that if you don't sing you aren't a supporter, which isn't what I think. I just think it takes more than going to matches, to truly be a supporter of the players and the club as a whole.

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any theories on why the club are extending the flexible capacity of the away end from 2,800 to 4,000?

 

doesnt make sense to me, majority of teams fail to sell their allocation anyway and the ones that do the games tend to be full houses eg. man utd, arsenal, sunderland, liverpool etc...

offering those teams 4,000 will only stop newcastle fans watching game at expense of them lot.  If there are gaps in seating for those games it tends to be around the premium areas and not that particular area of stadium maybe more should be done to encourage tickets to be sold i those areas, or am i just not seeing the bigger picture?

 

We're not going to be selling out many games next year by a long stretch. If we have a flexible away end which can seat 4,000, then it means for the underselling games the big gaps in the stadium will be concentrated as a security gap between the home fans and away fans, rather than spread out over the rest of the ground, and it makes the stadium look a little fuller.

 

Just a theory mind

 

Just because they are allocating 4000 for the away section it doesnt mean they will be empty where ever they dont sell the whole allocation.  Where a club can only sell 2000 away seats the remaining 2000 seats will just go on general sale just like they do now.  With the singing section now being pushed into various seats thoughout the ground that are not taken by a season ticket holder, this will reduce the amount general sale tickets lower down the tiers and increasing where they used to be.

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