Guest Roger Kint Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Whose to say Eto'o still isn't class? Its only 2 years ago that he scored 37 goals and 15 assists in 53 games for Inter. Really wouldn't judge him on his Anzhi spell, for one he's surrounded by crap playing in Russia. Also they were so crap that he'd often play in midfield. I refuse to believe that Eto'o of two years ago is gone. What about the Torres of two or so years ago? Eto'o wont do badly imo but cant see him hitting 20 in the league which they should be looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/70018.jpg Ate Messi's arm for lunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A player who based his game around pace and mobility at age 32... I haven't seen him in the past two years outside the odd European game (where he looked uninterested at best). Sure he'll score some, but not the kind of striker they should be buying. I'd understand if he was there in a backup role, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Torres was always overrated anyway. All Eto'o needs is off the ball movement to be effective and I doubt he's lost that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Torres wasn't over-rated like. No chance. He was absolutely brilliant for a good few years, then came to Liverpool and continued being absolutely brilliant. His injuries wrecked him, it's really that simple imo. Eto'o set to move to Chelsea. Guess that spells the end of the Rooney saga. Such a disappointment. Eto'o used to be class, like. But from Falcao to Rooney to Eto'o They shouldve gone for Suarez. Imagine a team with Suarez, Terry and Cole in man. pure Hatred FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Torres was always overrated anyway. All Eto'o needs is off the ball movement to be effective and I doubt he's lost that. No way man. Torres was absolutely dynamite. Vidic was seen as the best defender in England for a few years and Torres destroyed him every time. I hated playing against the wee fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Torres was always overrated anyway. All Eto'o needs is off the ball movement to be effective and I doubt he's lost that. No way man. Torres was absolutely dynamite. Vidic was seen as the best defender in England for a few years and Torres destroyed him every time. I hated playing against the wee fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I hated when Manchester United faced Torres.* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He was never brilliant at Atletico... not at any stage. This is why I say he's overrated, people constantly overrate his achievements. He had one outstanding season at Liverpool with a couple of good ones. While at Atletico it was never more than decent. And his international record is very average for a striker...It took him close to a 100 games to score more than Fernando F*cking Hierro a F*cking Centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 People should not forget how great Torres was in his first years in Liverpool just because he's so s*** now. One of the great mysteries of football this, no way his knee problems can be solely to blame for his decline. He could score all kinds of goals; playing on the shoulder, headers, running at the defence, long shots... He was almost unstoppable before 2010. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Oh and Vidic is overrated as well...Monster in the air but aside from that you could get at him. Never came close to reaching Rio's level for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A bit of a harsh comparison on the International front there. Hierros record is outstanding. Torres averaged 1 in 3 for Spain, which is a good return for International football in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A bit of a harsh comparison on the International front there. Hierros record is outstanding. Torres averaged 1 in 3 for Spain, which is a good return for International football in my opinion. And he scored some big goals too, like the one in the 2008 EC final. Hierro's record is ridiculous for a defender, not only internationally. I think he's one of the defenders with highest goals-per-game in recent times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Oh and Vidic is overrated as well...Monster in the air but aside from that you could get at him. Never came close to reaching Rio's level for example. Vidic is a monster everywhere. Unbelievable at reading the game and getting his body in the way of everything. Eto'o and Torres are the only people that ever really caused him consistent problems in a game. Rio and Vidic is a brilliant partnership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Torres wasn't over-rated like. No chance. He was absolutely brilliant for a good few years, then came to Liverpool and continued being absolutely brilliant. His injuries wrecked him, it's really that simple imo. Eto'o set to move to Chelsea. Guess that spells the end of the Rooney saga. Such a disappointment. Eto'o used to be class, like. But from Falcao to Rooney to Eto'o They shouldve gone for Suarez. Imagine a team with Suarez, Terry and Cole in man. pure Hatred FC. Torres was never brilliant at Athletico. He tended to look good against Barca but he certainly wasn't anywhere near as good as he was for those first few years at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A bit of a harsh comparison on the International front there. Hierros record is outstanding. Torres averaged 1 in 3 for Spain, which is a good return for International football in my opinion. It's ok until you realise a lot of his goals came against the likes of Haiti, New Zealand, San Marino, Tahati etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A bit of a harsh comparison on the International front there. Hierros record is outstanding. Torres averaged 1 in 3 for Spain, which is a good return for International football in my opinion. It's ok until you realise a lot of his goals came against the likes of Haiti, New Zealand, San Marino, Tahati etc. Again, harsh. He can only play against the teams in front of him. He did score in the last two European finals against Italy and Germany as well. Agree to disagree with Torres. I reckon he was a top, top player at Liverpool and Atletico. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What a big bag of shit. Torres was fucking unplayable at Liverpool. Is it trendy to make up a bullshit opinion like this nowadays? It seems to happen a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Personally, I never rated Brasilian Ronaldo. I know he scored obscene amounts of goals at the highest level, but he was never all that IMO. He was a poor mans Chris Sutton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Torres wasn't over-rated like. No chance. He was absolutely brilliant for a good few years, then came to Liverpool and continued being absolutely brilliant. His injuries wrecked him, it's really that simple imo. Eto'o set to move to Chelsea. Guess that spells the end of the Rooney saga. Such a disappointment. Eto'o used to be class, like. But from Falcao to Rooney to Eto'o They shouldve gone for Suarez. Imagine a team with Suarez, Terry and Cole in man. pure Hatred FC. Torres was never brilliant at Athletico. He tended to look good against Barca but he certainly wasn't anywhere near as good as he was for those first few years at Liverpool. It's weird, but we do have a penchant for letting Atlético centrestrikers through on goal; Torres, Agüero, Falcao... I don't think Valdés has had more one-on-ones with another team than them But Torres looked extremely impressive at Atlético; he only lacked a bit more muscle and better composure, but you saw there was a great striker in there waiting to explode once he sorted that out. Something that happened at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Oh and Vidic is overrated as well...Monster in the air but aside from that you could get at him. Never came close to reaching Rio's level for example. Vidic is a monster everywhere. Unbelievable at reading the game and getting his body in the way of everything. Eto'o and Torres are the only people that ever really caused him consistent problems in a game. Rio and Vidic is a brilliant partnership. Anyone with pace gave him problems.... Agbonlahor anyone? Its just Rio usually bailed him out although tbf it was a great partnership. They suited each other perfectly but once Rio went on the way down and couldn't cover him anymore he was getting pin pointed more and more. I can't expect a Manc to agree obviously but he genuine weaknesses and was never the all conquering CB with no weaknesses that people claimed he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Personally, I never rated Brasilian Ronaldo. I know he scored obscene amounts of goals at the highest level, but he was never all that IMO. He was a poor mans Chris Sutton. Disagree. I reckon he was a decent player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Oh and Vidic is overrated as well...Monster in the air but aside from that you could get at him. Never came close to reaching Rio's level for example. Vidic is a monster everywhere. Unbelievable at reading the game and getting his body in the way of everything. Eto'o and Torres are the only people that ever really caused him consistent problems in a game. Rio and Vidic is a brilliant partnership. Anyone with pace gave him problems.... Agbonlahor anyone? Its just Rio usually bailed him out although tbf it was a great partnership. They suited each other perfectly but once Rio went on the way done and couldn't cover him anymore he was getting pin pointed more and more. I can't expect a Manc to agree obviously but he genuine weaknesses and was never the all conquering CB with no weakness that people claimed he was. I don't claim he had no weaknesses. Players with pace were the ones likely to cause him problems, but his positional sense covered him 98% of the time in that area. He's not at the level he was a few years ago, but Vidic is a rock for us. Up there with Stam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Oh and Vidic is overrated as well...Monster in the air but aside from that you could get at him. Never came close to reaching Rio's level for example. Vidic is a monster everywhere. Unbelievable at reading the game and getting his body in the way of everything. Eto'o and Torres are the only people that ever really caused him consistent problems in a game. Rio and Vidic is a brilliant partnership. Anyone with pace gave him problems.... Agbonlahor anyone? Its just Rio usually bailed him out although tbf it was a great partnership. They suited each other perfectly but once Rio went on the way down and couldn't cover him anymore he was getting pin pointed more and more. I can't expect a Manc to agree obviously but he genuine weaknesses and was never the all conquering CB with no weaknesses that people claimed he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What a big bag of s***. Torres was f***ing unplayable at Liverpool. Is it trendy to make up a bullshit opinion like this nowadays? It seems to happen a lot. For 18 months yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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