Mole_Toonfan Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He had 12 years of contract and refused an extension, he'd have walked for owt. €28m is the highest fee I can recall for a player in such situation. And felipao's main point stands. You're supposed to be in this football lark to win stuff, not collect money bags from transfer deals. Neymar has won them a Libertadores. Van Persie cost Yanited more and Nasri was about the same. Besides Arsenal in both situations got 100% of the money, Santos are only getting a cut of it. 13m is shocking when you compare similar transfers. Van Persie was £24m and Nasri was £20m. Also the fact that Santos didn't receive the full fee is irrelevant because they haven't been paying his full wages for a while either. If they haven't been the only investor in Neymar, hence not being the only party to have risked money in him, then why should they reap more benefit than their share? You're dancing around in circles. Firstly it was the fee and now it's Santos not receiving the full whack. Both your criticisms don't have merit. Aye and in pounds Neymar was 21m, which Santos only get 55% of. Anyway i see people disagree so i won't continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He had 12 years of contract and refused an extension, he'd have walked for owt. €28m is the highest fee I can recall for a player in such situation. And felipao's main point stands. You're supposed to be in this football lark to win stuff, not collect money bags from transfer deals. Neymar has won them a Libertadores. Van Persie cost Yanited more and Nasri was about the same. Besides Arsenal in both situations got 100% of the money, Santos are only getting a cut of it. 13m is shocking when you compare similar transfers. Van Persie was £24m and Nasri was £20m. Also the fact that Santos didn't receive the full fee is irrelevant because they haven't been paying his full wages for a while either. If they haven't been the only investor in Neymar, hence not being the only party to have risked money in him, then why should they reap more benefit than their share? You're dancing around in circles. Firstly it was the fee and now it's Santos not receiving the full whack. Both your criticisms don't have merit. Aye and in pounds Neymar was 24m, which Santos only get 55% of. Anyway i see people disagree so i won't continue. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 To people in here saying that Santos would have got more money a couple of years ago. You'd think its all about money and nothing to do with winning things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 To people in here saying that Santos would have got more money a couple of years ago. You'd think its all about money and nothing to do with winning things But even financially they haven't made it too much worse. They average 5k more attendance when he plays at home then when he doesn't. They've gone furhter in continental cups and regionals cups meaning a fair bit of money coming in. Thanks to him they've also received better sponsorships deals. It's just plain stupid to think that Santos have done some bad deal here. I think it's been pretty close to perfect. Maybe they could've done better by selling him in January, but then they wouldn't have been a goal away from four straight Campeonato Paulista titles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Christ, Neymar, Messi, Iniesta, Xavi all in the same team. He's shit on crosses though. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He had 12 years of contract and refused an extension, he'd have walked for owt. €28m is the highest fee I can recall for a player in such situation. And felipao's main point stands. You're supposed to be in this football lark to win stuff, not collect money bags from transfer deals. Neymar has won them a Libertadores. Van Persie cost Yanited more and Nasri was about the same. Besides Arsenal in both situations got 100% of the money, Santos are only getting a cut of it. 13m is shocking when you compare similar transfers. Van Persie was £24m and Nasri was £20m. Also the fact that Santos didn't receive the full fee is irrelevant because they haven't been paying his full wages for a while either. If they haven't been the only investor in Neymar, hence not being the only party to have risked money in him, then why should they reap more benefit than their share? You're dancing around in circles. Firstly it was the fee and now it's Santos not receiving the full whack. Both your criticisms don't have merit. Jesus this argument is shite like Some of the argument on this place at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He had 12 years of contract and refused an extension, he'd have walked for owt. €28m is the highest fee I can recall for a player in such situation. And felipao's main point stands. You're supposed to be in this football lark to win stuff, not collect money bags from transfer deals. Neymar has won them a Libertadores. Van Persie cost Yanited more and Nasri was about the same. Besides Arsenal in both situations got 100% of the money, Santos are only getting a cut of it. 13m is shocking when you compare similar transfers. Van Persie was £24m and Nasri was £20m. Also the fact that Santos didn't receive the full fee is irrelevant because they haven't been paying his full wages for a while either. If they haven't been the only investor in Neymar, hence not being the only party to have risked money in him, then why should they reap more benefit than their share? You're dancing around in circles. Firstly it was the fee and now it's Santos not receiving the full whack. Both your criticisms don't have merit. Jesus this argument is shite like Some of the argument on this place at times Gonna be a throw down on whether Santos got a good deal of not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Douglas gone to Kuban Krasnodar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 what is that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Douglas gone to Kuban Krasnodar Not yet confirmed, but aye, looks that way. I haven't even heard of them. Seems like a truly terrible career move for him. A high profile move to one of the big leagues and one season of proving himself at that level would have probably meant going to the WC as well in his home country. Can't see Van Gaal checking him out regularly in f***ing Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 @GFN_France: DONE DEAL: Important to understand that all the dealing for Falcao's transfer to Monaco is done. €55m + add ons. Medical tomorrow. #Atletico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I guess the good news is that Falcao and Neymar are both done early so we don't have to hear about them all summer.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Nah we have Rooney to hear about all summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Nah we have Rooney to hear about all summer But we won't hear about Falcao and Neymar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Neymar was bealing earlier at the Santos - Flamengo game (being played in Brasilia...obvs) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 @GFN_France: DONE DEAL: Important to understand that all the dealing for Falcao's transfer to Monaco is done. €55m + add ons. Medical tomorrow. #Atletico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Poor Falcao. Don't get the impression he has much to do with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I'd imagine if you were loaded Monaco is one of the best places to live Europe. Could see Rooney going there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 It's not really at all. Mostly full of empty apartments and greasy tax-dodgers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 It's not really at all. Mostly full of empty apartments and greasy tax-dodgers. Redknapp for manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 It's not really at all. Mostly full of empty apartments and greasy tax-dodgers. Yes, but not exactly a long way to Nice and other places and the whole coast is one of the most beautiful areas in Europe, so I don't think he will be bored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Douglas gone to Kuban Krasnodar Not yet confirmed, but aye, looks that way. I haven't even heard of them. Seems like a truly terrible career move for him. A high profile move to one of the big leagues and one season of proving himself at that level would have probably meant going to the WC as well in his home country. Can't see Van Gaal checking him out regularly in f***ing Russia. Eh he would never have gone to the WC man. What you on about? Might as well and try to get as much money as possible in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 For Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 It's not really at all. Mostly full of empty apartments and greasy tax-dodgers. Yes, but not exactly a long way to Nice and other places and the whole coast is one of the most beautiful areas in Europe, so I don't think he will be bored. Spot on - can't think of many better places to play football with a load of money.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I agree. While Monaco is one of the more disappointing places I've visited, Nice is one of the best. Amazing place. He doesn't need that much money though - bus from Nice to Monaco is only 1 euro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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