Yohan Cabaye (now sporting coordinator at Paris Saint-Germain)

[Guest bimpy474]

Compare Martinez's comments about Barkley the other week. Everyone knows that every player has his price, but f*** me Pardew is relentless with this s*** and it's completely unnecessary.

 

What bothers me is the message it gives the player, it's not 'we're going to fight to keep you so don't bother agitating for a move' it's 'well if somebody bids for you...'

 

That's the message you choose to interpret it as though. In reality we have shown we'll fight to keep players, as Cabaye knows all to well.

 

Is fight to keep the player or get the fee we feel he's worth. Slightly different reasoning imo.

 

I can't see much difference. Even the much lauded Martinez quote about Barkley only went as far as saying he wouldn't be off in this window due to the disruption it would cause.

He knows full well there is a point where the difference the money would mean to the club outweighs the usefulness of the player, he's just lucky that unlike Cabaye, Barkley is unlikely to be pushing for a move at this stage.

 

Aye, i guess i'm still hanging to the notion of players loving clubs 

[Mick]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

[TRon]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

There's only one way to keep top players at a club and that's to compete in the CL. For clubs like us where top 10 is seen as success the only players who will want to stay are the ones who aren't good enough for a better club.

[Cajun]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

[jdckelly]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

Enrique but not much of a profit, entirely different circumstances too. Best too I suppose

[BottledDog]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

I've not know a Newcastle manager to have to field so many questions about our players leaving since the Carroll nonsense. Whether that be Jose, Barton, Ba, Tiote, Coloccini, Yohan...

 

I don't think it's because Pardew wants to talk about it particularly, it's just the first lazy question every journalist asks when players are doing well, or in the case of Colo, rumours of a juicy story just won't die.

[Guest strongbow69]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

 

I agree but isn't it more our willingness to propagate the notion everyone is for sale at the right price and those prices being bandied about continuously . Especially for our better players, I wouldn't mind hearing obertan is available for 3m more often mind .

[TRon]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

 

I agree but isn't it more our willingness to propagate the notion everyone is for sale at the right price and those prices being bandied about continuously . Especially for our better players, I wouldn't mind hearing obertan is available for 3m more often mind .

 

[Mick]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

I've not know a Newcastle manager to have to field so many questions about our players leaving since the Carroll nonsense. Whether that be Jose, Barton, Ba, Tiote, Coloccini, Yohan...

 

I don't think it's because Pardew wants to talk about it particularly, it's just the first lazy question every journalist asks when players are doing well, or in the case of Colo, rumours of a juicy story just won't die.

 

He fields so many questions because he's happy to give an answer.  Wenger was asked about transfers yesterday and refused to answer, that was the end of it.

[BottledDog]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

 

I agree but isn't it more our willingness to propagate the notion everyone is for sale at the right price and those prices being bandied about continuously . Especially for our better players, I wouldn't mind hearing obertan is available for 3m more often mind .

 

What prices have been bandied about continuously?

[jdckelly]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

I've not know a Newcastle manager to have to field so many questions about our players leaving since the Carroll nonsense. Whether that be Jose, Barton, Ba, Tiote, Coloccini, Yohan...

 

I don't think it's because Pardew wants to talk about it particularly, it's just the first lazy question every journalist asks when players are doing well, or in the case of Colo, rumours of a juicy story just won't die.

 

He fields so many questions because he's happy to give an answer.  Wenger was asked about transfers yesterday and refused to answer, that was the end of it.

wengers asked about incomings, everyone knows theres no point asking Pardew about that because he knows as much as we do.

[midds]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

I've not know a Newcastle manager to have to field so many questions about our players leaving since the Carroll nonsense. Whether that be Jose, Barton, Ba, Tiote, Coloccini, Yohan...

 

I don't think it's because Pardew wants to talk about it particularly, it's just the first lazy question every journalist asks when players are doing well, or in the case of Colo, rumours of a juicy story just won't die.

 

He fields so many questions because he's happy to give an answer.  Wenger was asked about transfers yesterday and refused to answer, that was the end of it.

 

Yep, there's a simple solution to it.

[Cajun]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

 

I agree but isn't it more our willingness to propagate the notion everyone is for sale at the right price and those prices being bandied about continuously . Especially for our better players, I wouldn't mind hearing obertan is available for 3m more often mind .

 

I know you aren't allowed to suggest this on here but I am a rebel so fuck it, maybe journalists ask questions?

 

I doubt Pardew starts press conferences with "Well I will tell you the team news in a minute, but first can I just say if anyone does want to buy Cabaye they will need to match our asking price, now onto tomorrow, Ben Arfa won't be starting".

 

Poor shitebulb doesn't get a mention as the journalist don't really care about him, our first choice midfielder however...

[Mick]

 

wengers asked about incomings, everyone knows theres no point asking Pardew about that because he knows as much as we do.

 

What's the difference between incomings and outgoings?  The answer is no difference and the results will be the same if he refuses to talk about them.

[Mick]

 

 

I know you aren't allowed to suggest this on here but I am a rebel so f*** it, maybe journalists ask questions?

 

I doubt Pardew starts press conferences with "Well I will tell you the team news in a minute, but first can I just say if anyone does want to buy Cabaye they will need to match our asking price, now onto tomorrow, Ben Arfa won't be starting".

 

Poor shitebulb doesn't get a mention as the journalist don't really care about him, our first choice midfielder however...

 

Good point, we all know his family will be stoned to death if he refuses to answer a question from a journalist.

[Dave]

Don't forget that NUFC love the media, Mick. It's well known.

[Guest strongbow69]

I still think our buy to sell policy is a myth, how many players have we actually bought to then sell for a profit? Ba at a push.

 

I agree but isn't it more our willingness to propagate the notion everyone is for sale at the right price and those prices being bandied about continuously . Especially for our better players, I wouldn't mind hearing obertan is available for 3m more often mind .

 

What prices have been bandied about continuously?

 

cabaye 20, tiote 20 after the good season, krull went upto 18, You can say its just paper questions but then you get interviews where pards says cabaye had a fantastic game, great player etc but we wouldn't let him go cheaply as we are tough negotiators. Just the impression I get like 

[BottledDog]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

I've not know a Newcastle manager to have to field so many questions about our players leaving since the Carroll nonsense. Whether that be Jose, Barton, Ba, Tiote, Coloccini, Yohan...

 

I don't think it's because Pardew wants to talk about it particularly, it's just the first lazy question every journalist asks when players are doing well, or in the case of Colo, rumours of a juicy story just won't die.

 

He fields so many questions because he's happy to give an answer.  Wenger was asked about transfers yesterday and refused to answer, that was the end of it.

 

Yep, there's a simple solution to it.

 

A simple solution?

 

Managers can't be expected to continue to avoid questions about their players.

Wenger is no different. Did he refuse to talk about Van Persie etc potentially going at the time. No, of course he didn't.

[Cajun]

 

 

I know you aren't allowed to suggest this on here but I am a rebel so f*** it, maybe journalists ask questions?

 

I doubt Pardew starts press conferences with "Well I will tell you the team news in a minute, but first can I just say if anyone does want to buy Cabaye they will need to match our asking price, now onto tomorrow, Ben Arfa won't be starting".

 

Poor shitebulb doesn't get a mention as the journalist don't really care about him, our first choice midfielder however...

 

Good point, we all know his family will be stoned to death if he refuses to answer a question from a journalist.

 

Asked this before and surprisingly no-one answered but if he says "No comment" I reckon there would be just as much uproar.

 

He is in a lose-lose situation when it comes to players being sold, he says they have a price and he is actively trying to sell players, refuses to answer and he is hiding something, says they definitely aren't for sale and he is lying like he did with Carroll.

 

One of the few things I actually have sympathy for him about.

[Mick]

Don't forget that NUFC love the media, Mick. It's well known.

 

I had forgotten how cosy our relationship is with the media and how we strive to retain a good working relationship with them.

[Mick]

 

 

Asked this before and surprisingly no-one answered but if he says "No comment" I reckon there would be just as much uproar.

 

He is in a lose-lose situation when it comes to players being sold, he says they have a price and he is actively trying to sell players, refuses to answer and he is hiding something, says they definitely aren't for sale and he is lying like he did with Carroll.

 

One of the few things I actually have sympathy for him about.

 

He doesn't have to say "No comment," he can simply say that he's not willing to talk about players coming or going until contracts are signed.

[Cajun]

 

 

Asked this before and surprisingly no-one answered but if he says "No comment" I reckon there would be just as much uproar.

 

He is in a lose-lose situation when it comes to players being sold, he says they have a price and he is actively trying to sell players, refuses to answer and he is hiding something, says they definitely aren't for sale and he is lying like he did with Carroll.

 

One of the few things I actually have sympathy for him about.

 

He doesn't have to say "No comment," he can simply say that he's not willing to talk about players coming or going until contracts are signed.

 

Probably the best answer he could give but there is no way he wouldn't be criticised for it.

[Mick]

 

 

Probably the best answer he could give but there is no way he wouldn't be criticised for it.

 

I wouldn't criticise him for it, he was burned with Carroll and that would have had me saying nothing.

[Dave]

 

 

Asked this before and surprisingly no-one answered but if he says "No comment" I reckon there would be just as much uproar.

 

He is in a lose-lose situation when it comes to players being sold, he says they have a price and he is actively trying to sell players, refuses to answer and he is hiding something, says they definitely aren't for sale and he is lying like he did with Carroll.

 

One of the few things I actually have sympathy for him about.

 

He doesn't have to say "No comment," he can simply say that he's not willing to talk about players coming or going until contracts are signed.

 

Probably the best answer he could give but there is no way he wouldn't be criticised for it.

 

Does he get criticised for refusing to talk about potential incomings? Can't remember seeing that.

[midds]

I can't remember any manager here being so willing to talk about our players leaving, I'm not bothered what other managers do at other clubs do.

 

I've not know a Newcastle manager to have to field so many questions about our players leaving since the Carroll nonsense. Whether that be Jose, Barton, Ba, Tiote, Coloccini, Yohan...

 

I don't think it's because Pardew wants to talk about it particularly, it's just the first lazy question every journalist asks when players are doing well, or in the case of Colo, rumours of a juicy story just won't die.

 

He fields so many questions because he's happy to give an answer.  Wenger was asked about transfers yesterday and refused to answer, that was the end of it.

 

Yep, there's a simple solution to it.

 

A simple solution?

 

Managers can't be expected to continue to avoid questions about their players.

Wenger is no different. Did he refuse to talk about Van Persie etc potentially going at the time. No, of course he didn't.

 

A simple "I'm not prepared to discuss individual transfers, in or out, of this club." would suffice.

 

If the media or other fans didn't like it then I wouldn't care in the slightest.