Sifu Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Isn't Edin Dzeko a Muslim? Fasting wouldn't appear to be doing him much harm Indeed he is but he describes himself as an "unorthodox Muslim" - he only prays once a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Isn't Edin Dzeko a Muslim? Fasting wouldn't appear to be doing him much harm Indeed he is but he describes himself as an "unorthodox Muslim" - he only prays once a day. Ah, right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 professional sportsmen fasting during the season ffs, idiots Why are they idiots? Some people actually follow there religion properly and don't just follow it when it suits them. there's no way i'm getting into a discussion on the merits of religion. but they're professional footballers, if you want to do something that massively affects your ability to concentrate and perform physically (by letting your blood sugar drop due to not eating) then you shouldnt be a professional sportsman. either that or do what everyone else has done for thousands of years, interpret religious ideas to your own advantage and just believe it doesnt apply to you since you are at a big disadvantage not eating. eat your pasta, drink your lucozade, then go out there and score a hat-trick for your NEW club that's paying you a fortune. stop bowing to peer pressure and face your responsibilities. So 23% of the world should not aim to become professional sportsmen because they don´t eat during daylight hours one month each year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 It's a bit weird the whole fasting thing. Eid is moving a day further back in my town because you won't be able to see the moon tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 professional sportsmen fasting during the season ffs, idiots Why are they idiots? Some people actually follow there religion properly and don't just follow it when it suits them. there's no way i'm getting into a discussion on the merits of religion. but they're professional footballers, if you want to do something that massively affects your ability to concentrate and perform physically (by letting your blood sugar drop due to not eating) then you shouldnt be a professional sportsman. either that or do what everyone else has done for thousands of years, interpret religious ideas to your own advantage and just believe it doesnt apply to you since you are at a big disadvantage not eating. eat your pasta, drink your lucozade, then go out there and score a hat-trick for your NEW club that's paying you a fortune. stop bowing to peer pressure and face your responsibilities. So 23% of the world should not aim to become professional sportsmen because they don´t eat during daylight hours one month each year? Semantic I guess, but far from all muslims are fasting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 It's a bit weird the whole fasting thing. Eid is moving a day further back in my town because you won't be able to see the moon tomorrow. Aye, sadly too many different opinions on this issue Anyhow on the Demba Ba topic, the fasting issue is getting way too much attention. He has had a poor start to his time here and people are latching onto Ramadan as it is easy to blame, there are plenty of footballers it does not affect (including Ba in previous seasons) so I think it is fair to accept he is just struggling due to other reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Isn't Edin Dzeko a Muslim? Fasting wouldn't appear to be doing him much harm Indeed he is but he describes himself as an "unorthodox Muslim" - he only prays once a day. He's not a muslim then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 It's a bit weird the whole fasting thing. Eid is moving a day further back in my town because you won't be able to see the moon tomorrow. Aye, sadly too many different opinions on this issue Anyhow on the Demba Ba topic, the fasting issue is getting way too much attention. He has had a poor start to his time here and people are latching onto Ramadan as it is easy to blame, there are plenty of footballers it does not affect (including Ba in previous seasons) so I think it is fair to accept he is just struggling due to other reasons It is only fair to blame Ramadan. Football is a very result driven industry. You get managers, fans and footballers who moan at every single disadvantage they perceive. If you want to be a devout practising Muslim and you fast steadfastly, it is your right and your right should be respected. But one should accept that Ramadan will be finger pointed at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Isn't Edin Dzeko a Muslim? Fasting wouldn't appear to be doing him much harm Indeed he is but he describes himself as an "unorthodox Muslim" - he only prays once a day. He's not a muslim then. He is like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hozzo Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Is Simpson a muslim, would maybe explain his August performances .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Is Simpson a muslim, would maybe explain his August performances .... His baby was born 6 weeks early and he's been back and forth to the hospital since the birth. Can't remember the exact weight of the baby reported, but it was ridiculously low. Wouldn't be surprised if this has had a massive effect on his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hozzo Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 ah, I wasn't aware of that ... then I can fully understand I hope all goes well for him and his family Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 professional sportsmen fasting during the season ffs, idiots Why are they idiots? Some people actually follow there religion properly and don't just follow it when it suits them. there's no way i'm getting into a discussion on the merits of religion. but they're professional footballers, if you want to do something that massively affects your ability to concentrate and perform physically (by letting your blood sugar drop due to not eating) then you shouldnt be a professional sportsman. either that or do what everyone else has done for thousands of years, interpret religious ideas to your own advantage and just believe it doesnt apply to you since you are at a big disadvantage not eating. eat your pasta, drink your lucozade, then go out there and score a hat-trick for your NEW club that's paying you a fortune. stop bowing to peer pressure and face your responsibilities. So 23% of the world should not aim to become professional sportsmen because they don´t eat during daylight hours one month each year? Pakistani Cricket team have always seemed to manage alright mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 professional sportsmen fasting during the season ffs, idiots Why are they idiots? Some people actually follow there religion properly and don't just follow it when it suits them. there's no way i'm getting into a discussion on the merits of religion. but they're professional footballers, if you want to do something that massively affects your ability to concentrate and perform physically (by letting your blood sugar drop due to not eating) then you shouldnt be a professional sportsman. either that or do what everyone else has done for thousands of years, interpret religious ideas to your own advantage and just believe it doesnt apply to you since you are at a big disadvantage not eating. eat your pasta, drink your lucozade, then go out there and score a hat-trick for your NEW club that's paying you a fortune. stop bowing to peer pressure and face your responsibilities. So 23% of the world should not aim to become professional sportsmen because they don´t eat during daylight hours one month each year? that was merely a pre-amble to the most important point and the post is clearly not all serious. however i do think if you are lucky enough to be a professional athlete you should find a workaround, imo. not eating has massive negative impact on concentration and performance, and it's dis-respectful to employers, fans, colleagues. at the very least declare yourself unable to play and deal with the consequences, you shouldnt have it both ways. out of interest who are the confirmed muslims in our squad? are there any others apart from Ba and Tiote? because they've both been shit during Ramadan, which means i just might have a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 professional sportsmen fasting during the season ffs, idiots Why are they idiots? Some people actually follow there religion properly and don't just follow it when it suits them. there's no way i'm getting into a discussion on the merits of religion. but they're professional footballers, if you want to do something that massively affects your ability to concentrate and perform physically (by letting your blood sugar drop due to not eating) then you shouldnt be a professional sportsman. either that or do what everyone else has done for thousands of years, interpret religious ideas to your own advantage and just believe it doesnt apply to you since you are at a big disadvantage not eating. eat your pasta, drink your lucozade, then go out there and score a hat-trick for your NEW club that's paying you a fortune. stop bowing to peer pressure and face your responsibilities. So 23% of the world should not aim to become professional sportsmen because they don´t eat during daylight hours one month each year? that was merely a pre-amble to the most important point and the post is clearly not all serious. however i do think if you are lucky enough to be a professional athlete you should find a workaround, imo. not eating has massive negative impact on concentration and performance, and it's dis-respectful to employers, fans, colleagues. at the very least declare yourself unable to play and deal with the consequences, you shouldnt have it both ways. out of interest who are the confirmed muslims in our squad? are there any others apart from Ba and Tiote? because they've both been s*** during Ramadan, which means i just might have a point. Well, we don't know what if any discussions he had with the club regarding Ramadan prior to signing I hope he did explain to the club prior to joining that he had religious commitments, as that would have been the right thing to do. I don't think it is fair to criticise him for something that he may well have done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 professional sportsmen fasting during the season ffs, idiots Why are they idiots? Some people actually follow there religion properly and don't just follow it when it suits them. there's no way i'm getting into a discussion on the merits of religion. but they're professional footballers, if you want to do something that massively affects your ability to concentrate and perform physically (by letting your blood sugar drop due to not eating) then you shouldnt be a professional sportsman. either that or do what everyone else has done for thousands of years, interpret religious ideas to your own advantage and just believe it doesnt apply to you since you are at a big disadvantage not eating. eat your pasta, drink your lucozade, then go out there and score a hat-trick for your NEW club that's paying you a fortune. stop bowing to peer pressure and face your responsibilities. So 23% of the world should not aim to become professional sportsmen because they don´t eat during daylight hours one month each year? that was merely a pre-amble to the most important point and the post is clearly not all serious. however i do think if you are lucky enough to be a professional athlete you should find a workaround, imo. not eating has massive negative impact on concentration and performance, and it's dis-respectful to employers, fans, colleagues. at the very least declare yourself unable to play and deal with the consequences, you shouldnt have it both ways. out of interest who are the confirmed muslims in our squad? are there any others apart from Ba and Tiote? because they've both been s*** during Ramadan, which means i just might have a point. Well, we don't know what if any discussions he had with the club regarding Ramadan prior to signing I hope he did explain to the club prior to joining that he had religious commitments, as that would have been the right thing to do. I don't think it is fair to criticise him for something that he may well have done that's true, i'm speaking more generally to be honest and it's not just directed at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 It's a bit weird the whole fasting thing. Eid is moving a day further back in my town because you won't be able to see the moon tomorrow. Aye, sadly too many different opinions on this issue Anyhow on the Demba Ba topic, the fasting issue is getting way too much attention. He has had a poor start to his time here and people are latching onto Ramadan as it is easy to blame, there are plenty of footballers it does not affect (including Ba in previous seasons) so I think it is fair to accept he is just struggling due to other reasons It is only fair to blame Ramadan. Football is a very result driven industry. You get managers, fans and footballers who moan at every single disadvantage they perceive. If you want to be a devout practising Muslim and you fast steadfastly, it is your right and your right should be respected. But one should accept that Ramadan will be finger pointed at. I don't think it is, I think there are other more important factors for his poor start at the club (let's not forget Ramadan started on August 1st, whilst our first friendly was much earlier) We have had Muslims before, who have fasted whilst playing, it just happens to be their performances were not bad that we did not latch onto the Ramadan aspect. There are plenty of other Muslim footballers who seem to be playing well enough (including Ba himself in previous seasons) which is why I think there are more important reasons for why he has struggled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. We've not done too badly tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. We've not done too badly tbf. somehow despite a whole load of factors from crap pre season, not technically having a left back etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. We've not done too badly tbf. i meant in terms of Ba being a new signing and playing his first few games, thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. It moves back about 10 days every year so will still be an issue next year (though I think Ba will have settled and be playing well for us by then so won't really be an issue) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. We've not done too badly tbf. somehow despite a whole load of factors from crap pre season, not technically having a left back etc It's a bit of a miracle isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. We've not done too badly tbf. i meant in terms of Ba being a new signing and playing his first few games, thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 its not great timing with it happening at the very start of the season, that's for sure. It moves back about 10 days every year so will still be an issue next year (though I think Ba will have settled and be playing well for us by then so won't really be an issue) yeah that's what i mean, there's a spotlight on how he performs right now that wouldnt be there in january or next season. it's not his fault we sold the most expensive british player ever and he was the replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now