Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 True, but nobody suggested that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hatem injury prone? One bad muscle injury? Of course he's prone to injury, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 True, but nobody suggested that. Ikon did 2 posts before me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Oh, I thought you were replying to Kanji. Apologies. Ikon, you're being silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Am i? Why Ronaldo? Dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hatem's injury prone, and Marveaux, as much as I think his left foot is the best weapon at the club, is Mr Glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Read my post again then..As regarding HBA i think it's very harsh to call him injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Marveaux should never be given that responsibility. He's a must against teams we need to open up and is obviously a better player than some who consistently start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I seriously hope this is Sylvain's time to finally prove his fitness, not that he's got anything in his locker to suggest he will be fit this season. His skillset is vital for our creation of chances, and his left foot is fucking brilliant. He's a first 11 player for me until we sign someone better/more reliable to play in attacking CM's role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The problem is how to accommodate him. IMO he can't play wide, and he can't play as a CM because he's physically weak. Free role or AM is his position, so do we think he would work as the furthest forward of a midfield 3? Assuming HBA is also playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 He'd work better than anyone else we have there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Don't disagree, just chewing the fat. We have a load of options for a good midfield three - Anita/Sissoko/Cabaye/Marveaux/Tiote could almost all play in any combination. Even Jonas is passable there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Nah - I think he can play on the wing. I don't think it's his best position, but his best games for us have come out there - Fulham (h), Anzhi (h). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Even Jonas is passable there. Unless we want to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Asking for opinions here...but if we were to allow Marv and HBA to drift and roam about behind Cisse with a strong CM(s) partnership of Cabaye, Sissoko and one of Tiote/Anita and then have Santon and Debuchy as backs overlapping wide, could we not be OK with that? This assumes Mapou and Colo at CB allowing Mapou to use his pace to cover some of the space left when one of the backs are far up the pitch. I know a ton of what-ifs here, but to me that seems like one of our better options. I guess the rebuttal is AP wouldn't be able to create or implement a fluid system like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Asking for opinions here...but if we were to allow Marv and HBA to drift and roam about behind Cisse with a strong CM(s) partnership of Cabaye, Sissoko and one of Tiote/Anita and then have Santon and Debuchy as backs overlapping wide, could we not be OK with that? This assumes Mapou and Colo at CB allowing Mapou to use his pace to cover some of the space left when one of the backs are far up the pitch. I know a ton of what-ifs here, but to me that seems like one of our better options. I guess the rebuttal is AP wouldn't be able to create or implement a fluid system like this. With that kind of system the whole side has to know what is going on at all times in a match and in all situations. It comes from bedding down the system in pre-season as it takes a while to gel and build understanding. Unless a manager is really visionary about implementing such a system and sticks with it through thick and thin they don't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Cool just wondering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Asking for opinions here...but if we were to allow Marv and HBA to drift and roam about behind Cisse with a strong CM(s) partnership of Cabaye, Sissoko and one of Tiote/Anita and then have Santon and Debuchy as backs overlapping wide, could we not be OK with that? This assumes Mapou and Colo at CB allowing Mapou to use his pace to cover some of the space left when one of the backs are far up the pitch. I know a ton of what-ifs here, but to me that seems like one of our better options. I guess the rebuttal is AP wouldn't be able to create or implement a fluid system like this. . I think you're absolutely right, that's how I would go with current personnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I love the Ancelotti system but it relies a little too much on the unreliable in our case. With another couple of players brought in I'd love to see it at SJP though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alexinho Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Cool just wondering Think it could work, but then Anita/Tiote should be the one getting down when Deb./Santon goes... It is just as easy as 4-4-2, it's just about the right players getting freedom and the right ones not. May biggest worry is lack of players up front running to give Marve and B'Arfa space. But could work, but then again - we have AP(e) as a manager so guess it won't.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I love the Ancelotti system but it relies a little too much on the unreliable in our case. With another couple of players brought in I'd love to see it at SJP though. Shit did I just describe the Ancelotti system then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I love the Ancelotti system but it relies a little too much on the unreliable in our case. With another couple of players brought in I'd love to see it at SJP though. Shit did I just describe the Ancelotti system then? I thought the Ancelotti system was a diamond with 2 out-and-out strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I love the Ancelotti system but it relies a little too much on the unreliable in our case. With another couple of players brought in I'd love to see it at SJP though. Shit did I just describe the Ancelotti system then? I thought the Ancelotti system was a diamond with 2 out-and-out strikers. He mixes it up tactically but he favors the 4-3-2-1, used often at Milan, Chelsea and PSG. zonalmarking has some good writeups on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 You did, Kanji. You beautiful genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 You did, Kanji. You beautiful genius. Awesome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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