Guest neesy111 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Weird signing, Cordone. Wonder how it came about. Seems he made a decent career for himself. Bassedas was weird too, total flop. Can remember Robson having a chap behind the scenes recommending these South American players and getting sacked off. Gavilan, Bassedas, Acuna and Wadsworth. Acuna looked a good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Karelse S Taylor S Caldwell Cacapa Serrant Cordone Dumas Disco Des Glass Cort Smith Bit unfair to include Glass, he was ok imo. Should have slipped in Garry Brady instead. Glass scored some important goals coming off the bench I seem to remember. Man Utd (H) 1-1 springs to mind, a SBR triple special. Think he may have scored in a European tie too. Him and Cordone definitely came on. Maybe Cordone scored too? We weren't in Europe while Cordone was here. Ah were we not? Must have been a mid week tie then. I'm sure it was dark. Probably a different game but Cordone scored in the first game at the fully extended ground against Derby. Twas a night match. EDIT: aye Glass scored n all, as did your username. Great night all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 OT but is Colo back this weekend? Not heard anything, should find out tomorrow I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Seamus Venison Albert Colo Bernard Solano Dyer Speed Robert Beardsley © Shearer Seamus Venison Albert Colo Bernard Solano Dyer Speed Robert Beardsley © Shearer Exciting team... Me? Given Beye Woodgate Colo Enrique Solano Cabye Lee Sellars Beardsley Cole But I could easily change it to... Shay Venison Colo Albert Beresford Solano Lee Beardsley Ginola Shearer Ferdinand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 OT but is Colo back this weekend? Always gets me does that, for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Nicky Butt relegation season is the worst centre-mid (again, who had more than the odd game), by the by. Smith and Butt. Worst of the worst of the worst. It's true that - in PL history - there have been worse collections of players relegated (or even survived) than our '09 mob, but when you consider the likes of those two played most games, it's telling. Butt, as desperately shite as he was, at least tried whereas Smith was just as shite but the cowardly useless fucker did his best to hide as much as possible. Except when it came to lunging into tackles, which is also just fucking cowardly. God, I hate him, absolutely fucking useless prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I liked Barton too, tbf, but his only prolonged spell where he looked better than average/shit came on the right-wing. And that was a time when we were fairly one-dimensional and played fairly direct a lot of the time. Barton-Nolan-Carroll worked well for a stretch of time but there was never any longevity to it, and it was combated by better sides. I don't think we got the best out of him playing him wide, because he lacked pace. His best position is in midfield in a 4-3-3 - a formation we didn't often see when he was with us. As for him being average / shit - I'm not having that. When he wasn't in jail, suspended or injured, he had a real impact on the side. He played a big part in saving us from going down in Keegan's first season. It usually gets attributed to the tactical switch of playing Owen deep, but the upturn in form also coincides with Joey's return to the team. The following season, I think we'd have stayed up if it wasn't for him getting himself banned for the final three games. Moving ahead, his absence from QPR coincided with their going down. Whether he's ultimately worth the trouble to a manager is another matter, but if you're picking a hypothetical side based on ability, he's a candidate. It hasn't helped his reputation that both with us and elsewhere he's never played in a good side, but that's almost entirely his fault. He had the talent to do much better. PS - Also depends on which system you go for. Most people seem to have gone for a four-man midfield with two wingers, which wouldn't be the best for Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I liked Barton too, tbf, but his only prolonged spell where he looked better than average/shit came on the right-wing. And that was a time when we were fairly one-dimensional and played fairly direct a lot of the time. Barton-Nolan-Carroll worked well for a stretch of time but there was never any longevity to it, and it was combated by better sides. I don't think we got the best out of him playing him wide, because he lacked pace. His best position is in midfield in a 4-3-3 - a formation we didn't often see when he was with us. As for him being average / shit - I'm not having that. When he wasn't in jail, suspended or injured, he had a real impact on the side. He played a big part in saving us from going down in Keegan's first season. It usually gets attributed to the tactical switch of playing Owen deep, but the upturn in form also coincides with Joey's return to the team. The following season, I think we'd have stayed up if it wasn't for him getting himself banned for the final three games. Moving ahead, his absence from QPR coincided with their going down. Whether he's ultimately worth the trouble to a manager is another matter, but if you're picking a hypothetical side based on ability, he's a candidate. It hasn't helped his reputation that both with us and elsewhere he's never played in a good side, but that's almost entirely his fault. He had the talent to do much better. Come off it man, I liked Barton but in a Premier League era XI, he's far down the list both as a winger and a central player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Aye - JB wouldn't get anywhere near our top 50 players over the Premier League era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Beyes a bottle job, shouldn't be anywhere near that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Who would the back-up attackers be? It's out of Cole, Ba & Ferdinand. There I say I think the first two are better players but I like Sir Les the most. Would probably have Sir Les over Ba. Back up CM's? Speed and Dyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Bellamy would definitely be on the bench, if he's not starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I know he gets some stick from us but Jenas was fucking good too under Sir Bobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Who would the back-up attackers be? It's out of Cole, Ba & Ferdinand. There I say I think the first two are better players but I like Sir Les the most. Would probably have Sir Les over Ba. Back up CM's? Speed and Dyer. I wouldn't put Ba anywhere near the squad personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oh aye Bellamy is why I thought to ask the question anyway. Bellamy and Cole for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oh aye Bellamy is why I thought to ask the question anyway. Bellamy and Cole for me. Bellamy, at times, was outstanding. I think the argument for his inclusion in any squad comes from the fact that he was a really unique player - lightning quick, aggresive, alert and he created a fuck load of attacking momentum. There's not another forward in our recent history that you can liken to Bellamy really and, for that reason, you've got listen to any argument including him in an all time 11. If we were picking teams for effectiveness and ability to actually blend together as a team (rather than best 11 stand out individuals) you'd have to seriously consider Bellamy because he could play alongside anyone really. An Andy Cole, a Shearer (as proven), a Ba or Big Les. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Beyes a bottle job, shouldn't be anywhere near that team. He was immense in his first season, outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I know he gets some stick from us but Jenas was fucking good too under Sir Bobby. He really looked the part at the time for a kid. Was great at keeping possession and whatnot. His career never really progressed after the SBR era. Turned out to be a journeyman midfielder when, at the time, he had the world at his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oh aye Bellamy is why I thought to ask the question anyway. Bellamy and Cole for me. Bellamy, at times, was outstanding. I think the argument for his inclusion in any squad comes from the fact that he was a really unique player - lightning quick, aggresive, alert and he created a fuck load of attacking momentum. There's not another forward in our recent history that you can liken to Bellamy really and, for that reason, you've got listen to any argument including him in an all time 11. If we were picking teams for effectiveness and ability to actually blend together as a team (rather than best 11 stand out individuals) you'd have to seriously consider Bellamy because he could play alongside anyone really. An Andy Cole, a Shearer (as proven), a Ba or Big Les. Bellamy is one of my favourite players to have played in B&W tbh, would love to have a player like him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oh aye Bellamy is why I thought to ask the question anyway. Bellamy and Cole for me. Bellamy, at times, was outstanding. I think the argument for his inclusion in any squad comes from the fact that he was a really unique player - lightning quick, aggresive, alert and he created a fuck load of attacking momentum. There's not another forward in our recent history that you can liken to Bellamy really and, for that reason, you've got listen to any argument including him in an all time 11. If we were picking teams for effectiveness and ability to actually blend together as a team (rather than best 11 stand out individuals) you'd have to seriously consider Bellamy because he could play alongside anyone really. An Andy Cole, a Shearer (as proven), a Ba or Big Les. Bellamy is one of my favourite players to have played in B&W tbh, would love to have a player like him now. Thinking about it, Bellamy and Andy Cole (in his NUFC prime) would have been unbelievable - lightning quick and unplayable at times. Defenses would have such a deep line to prevent getting caught in behind or left 1 on 1 in a race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Despite how shite things are now, we've been blessed with some talent over the last 20 years. I'd go with: Given Beye, Colo, Woodgate, Enrique Solano, Dyer, Speed, Robert Shearer, Bellamy Subs: Krul Albert Batty Ginola Lee Beardsley Ferdinand Only reason I've gone with Bellamy over Beardsley is because I only really become what I would call a proper football fan in 1995, so didn't see the best of Beardsley. Also why Cole isn't even on the bench. Also, I think that had Parker left straight after his first season he would be held in much higher regard around here. Like Hamann, he was immense over one season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 If we had a manager that could get the best out of him, Ben Arfa would be in contention in a lot of people's lists IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oh aye Bellamy is why I thought to ask the question anyway. Bellamy and Cole for me. Bellamy, at times, was outstanding. I think the argument for his inclusion in any squad comes from the fact that he was a really unique player - lightning quick, aggresive, alert and he created a f*** load of attacking momentum. There's not another forward in our recent history that you can liken to Bellamy really and, for that reason, you've got listen to any argument including him in an all time 11. If we were picking teams for effectiveness and ability to actually blend together as a team (rather than best 11 stand out individuals) you'd have to seriously consider Bellamy because he could play alongside anyone really. An Andy Cole, a Shearer (as proven), a Ba or Big Les. Bellamy is one of my favourite players to have played in B&W tbh, would love to have a player like him now. Thinking about it, Bellamy and Andy Cole (in his NUFC prime) would have been unbelievable - lightning quick and unplayable at times. Defenses would have such a deep line to prevent getting caught in behind or left 1 on 1 in a race. Bellamy to push the defences back. Cole to twist and turn in the box when they employ the deep line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140222/captain-colos-relishing-his-return_2281670_3681480 "After seven weeks out it is nice to finally be back," said Coloccini. "I have been injured since New Year's Day and, during that time, it has been very difficult to watch the team's performances and results without being able to do anything about it. "You want to help your teammates but you can do nothing and it gets very frustrating. "But I am just pleased to be back now. It means that I can do my best on the training pitch and in matches to help the team and hopefully get us winning games again." Despite the Magpies' recent run of results, Coloccini is convinced there is the quality in the St. James' Park dressing room to have an impressive end to the 2013/14 campaign. "In every season, there are good times and bad times but we are a good team full of good players and we have to keep working hard and remain positive," he said. "It does not help to spend too much time thinking about matches that have now gone. Instead, we have to look at the ones in front of us - the final 12 games of the season - and try to start picking up points again. "That begins against Aston Villa." Class player, great to have him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 They could probably hoy a mop at centre half and tell people it's Coloccini and we'd do better than having Taylor there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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